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#341 mikkyld

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 20:57

Haha, well no one is forcing you to play if you don't like it. They just released these new buffs, so no one knows how they are going to play out. You guys are speculating like you know the outcome but you DON'T.

Besides many people, including myself, think they are going to make adjustments. But going on and on about it does nothing to solve the problem.


Unlike you and your guildmates, who apparently cannot tell if their shoes are tied without photographic documentation and five witnesses, some of us who play this game can follow basic logic chains and see why things that throw the systems in the game out of balance are a bad thing.

I've seen several situations already where reckoning "activated" on a given buff, and the amount of buff didn't operate as it should have if it were really a DC450, EW3000, etc.

We're not forced to play the game - and you're not forced to post in a thread discussing the technical repercussions of new functionalities, either. Do us all a favor and step away from the keyboard :wink:


And you are not forced to be an AH when you disagree with someone but that doesn't seem to stop you. He hasn't been real clear in some of his posts but that one was clear - he wasn't talking about whether the buff works as it should when it activates but whether it breaks gameplay

#342 mikkyld

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 20:57

Haha, well no one is forcing you to play if you don't like it. They just released these new buffs, so no one knows how they are going to play out. You guys are speculating like you know the outcome but you DON'T.

Besides many people, including myself, think they are going to make adjustments. But going on and on about it does nothing to solve the problem.



Actually my girlfriend forces me to play what you guys attempt to pass off as a game. lol.

(I would go into detail, but I've been told I need to keep this place PG-13)


:)

then you shouldn't worry about how bad it is - you have a real reason to play :)

#343 NatalieEGH

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 21:35

Not to question the new skills but why did we need Resource Finder? The drop rates with a FI1000 are very high to start with. About 1 drop of what you want for every 10 stamina used on the average.

I am a farmer and already find it hard to find buyers because I fill inventories. My buyers work in groups to hold all the plants speading them across their entire guild.

I might be an exceptionally successful farmer but I any farmer can be just as successful. I am sure it will be nice to get 1000-1100 plants per farming, but I really question whether there will be buyers.

I just hope with spell, if it is even 1/2 as effective as Quest Finder, the prices of user made potions collapse, because the number of plants found should increase to where there are hundreds of pages of plants listed.

#344 Werd64

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 21:47

should Spell Leech work with potions. (ex: EW1500). people pay 11-12 FSP for it. why should somebody have the option of stealing it for free?

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 22:08

should Spell Leech work with potions. (ex: EW1500). people pay 11-12 FSP for it. why should somebody have the option of stealing it for free?



It can also replaces my DC225 pot with a crappy DC140 buff. :lol:

#346 fs_theoryman

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 23:04

Nice update,

I really going to like Demoralize and Sanctuary with my armor set-ups. I'm curious to know why sanctuary is a 800 skill and it's defensive counterpart is only 300.

Also, players buffing players with useless buffs when the that player has the Reckoning buff active... :lol: It's going to happen...

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I'm going to hunt with only AL/Lib/Con/Doubler/SSI/Counter Attack/Reckoning.
Gets bombarded with level 26 buffs.

It's going to happen...

:lol:


Yea that is an issue that needs to be addressed? Anyone have a good plan to fix it?


There is no plan, only "O nos" threads in a few months, copious amounts of stupidity and maybe some banning. :lol:

Some are saying that Reckoning is bugged, I guess that is a good plan to stop the abuse... :lol:

#347 nmc

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 23:26

Resource Finder - :| take this buff out. the farming and potions market will die in 1 week max cuz of this buff.

#348 fs_sjman3

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Posted 29 May 2010 - 23:46

Wow it diddent take long for sum1 to complain that theres no teleport. guess i win that 5FSP bet thanks man :)

#349 fs_x0xskyex0x

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 00:34

It's not bad, the XP you gain could just about be bought with stamina from the gold you lost, if you use FSP for stamina that is, it should be a touch higher though.


I dont want to read through the rest of the forum so i dont know what else was said.. But +1000000000000000000000. Even an extra .01 percent would make it completely worth it as a PL.

#350 luuutz

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 00:37

I think Spell Leech should be capped, imagine you steal EW1500 and got EW3000 for it.
And another one steals that and has EW6000 (it would have 25% of its original duration, but would still be a nice deal).

#351 fs_regnier7

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 00:41

I think Spell Leech should be capped, imagine you steal EW1500 and got EW3000 for it.
And another one steals that and has EW6000 (it would have 25% of its original duration, but would still be a nice deal).



Read it again, man.... it says "Replace" not "adds to" your buff. ;)

#352 luuutz

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 00:47

I think Spell Leech should be capped, imagine you steal EW1500 and got EW3000 for it.
And another one steals that and has EW6000 (it would have 25% of its original duration, but would still be a nice deal).



Read it again, man.... it says "Replace" not "adds to" your buff. ;)



I guess I was wrong on that^^

But it would be a nice idea to "share" EW1500 by attacking someone who´s done with it (small guilds + high doubler = sharing EW?)

I´m OFF for now, thank you Regnier7

#353 fs_regnier7

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 00:58

Haha! :D

#354 DaleJunior

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 01:11

Don't really see it as moaning to question why one of the most interactive HCS members (Grim) stated, clearly, that Resource Finder should not operate on plants - but now it does.


It's how I asked Hoofmaster to code it. He decided he liked the buff but that it should effect plants too.


Then how about introducing some NEW plants that we can use in inventing potions? That would be cool.

#355 Maury Bund

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 02:37

Not to question the new skills but why did we need Resource Finder? The drop rates with a FI1000 are very high to start with. About 1 drop of what you want for every 10 stamina used on the average.


It may be that way when are looking for plants, but there are a few quests I've already run through that I had to sublevel to finish getting the resources to complete it and I have not done the Lost Token quest yet either. So, there are some uses for it.

#356 fs_regnier7

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 02:40

Not to question the new skills but why did we need Resource Finder? The drop rates with a FI1000 are very high to start with. About 1 drop of what you want for every 10 stamina used on the average.


It may be that way when are looking for plants, but there are a few quests I've already run through that I had to sublevel to finish getting the resources to complete it and I have not done the Lost Token quest yet either. So, there are some uses for it.


Yeah, but look at potion prices as time goes on.... this should not work on plants. :(

#357 Kae1712

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 02:50

I wouldn't mind getting some new plants for new potions.

#358 fs_loopylooni

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 04:12

Well from what ive seen mostly talking to friends and people ive been selling buffs to the buff that most caught my attention was rekoning.

Being someone who levels with alot of buffs to keep my 1 hit set up going. I have every plan to use this buff will it game break my hunt probully not. As there is no way i can ensure it would proc on al all the time and still one hit.

Will it make things alot more interesting seeing what it does proc on that i have to say yes. Friend had it proc on brew master today of all buffs i can say that buff was quickly clicked off afterwards.

On the new resorce finder buff right now its a bit extreme it seems not that im complaining cheep potion prices for me thats definally my best intrests but to those who play that deal in potions for fun and making money its not.
But I hope what some have already said Will happen and we will get some new potions and maybee a new plant or 2 to use up some of the excess supply. I miss the low lvl days of being able to do my hunt and find a pretty plant now and then with my low lvl find item buff. Id love to kill a 500 mob well hunting or 600 or even higher and have a chance at getting some plants . These days i look for my quest drop for like 100 mobs then right after it drops my bags get filled up as the next 7 mobs all drop it one after another. Qf 350 is gonna be a fun rekoning proc to see one day :D

#359 shokolo

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 04:48

I think Spell Leech should be capped, imagine you steal EW1500 and got EW3000 for it.
And another one steals that and has EW6000 (it would have 25% of its original duration, but would still be a nice deal).



Read it again, man.... it says "Replace" not "adds to" your buff. ;)



Spell Leech
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+0.1% per point chance when you defeat an opponent in PvP that you initiated, you will steal a random buff. Note the remaining duration of the buff is reduced by 50% and will not take effect until the next combat. Note also if you already have the buff active, it will replace the existing buff you have active.


I dont know reg...from what i get is that you do steal a buff .. BUT if you already have the same buff on you it will replace it regardless of levels

i.e you attack with EW 1500 and your target got EW 175, then if you steal his EW you just lost 10-12 orbs worth of potion :)

#360 abhorrence

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Posted 30 May 2010 - 04:58

I dont know reg...from what i get is that you do steal a buff .. BUT if you already have the same buff on you it will replace it regardless of levels

i.e you attack with EW 1500 and your target got EW 175, then if you steal his EW you just lost 10-12 orbs worth of potion :)


You use EW 1500 in pvp allot do you?

It has a chance to steal a buff, 17.5% maximum. If it triggers it picks 1 of the buffs however many are on that player. So, you would need EW 1500, the target would need EW of a lower level. It would have to trigger, then out of all the targets buffs it would have to select EW. I'd say if you do use EW 1500 for PVP and you were worried about your EW 1500 that much, don't stack it with Spell Leach huh?


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