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#1 Skiritai

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 02:29

Hello, and this will probably start a screaming fit but whatever.

I have been playing the game for some time now and have noticed that HCS puts up the general location of Titans so every hunt can run off that location.

I don't know if there is a place to see when an SE shows up but do know you can see who has killed one and what they got if anything.

Now to the PvP link. My friends and I are not impressed by the canned hunt that link provides. We know that you can kill another player 5 levels up or down from your own. Of course if that link were removed you could only go after players your own level and 5 down from yours. The removal of that link would present a challenge of another kind, it would mean you would have to roam the areas you can access in order to make your kill. That's ok with us though.

You spend your stam in hunting a player, you run the risk of being killed instead of killing and of the loss of your experience and gold instead of taking the gold from the other player and costing them their experience.

That's ok with us too. That's what you call hunting. To us that's part of what the game is all about.

Guys, (HCS), would you consider the removal of that link? Please? Hunt or not, kill or not, but that's a lot like a hunter up a tree with a bear in a cage below. lol It's waaaaay to easy and it's not sporting.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 02:40

Are you suggesting only being able to hit another player that is on the same square as you? I don't understand what you're trying to suggest.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 02:46

You say "we" as if you have the support of the entire pvp community, which Im certain you dont. You must not realize how ridiculous that is once you start to get to the higher levels. Now, admittedly, I havent leveled in a good 6 months, but I remember those hunts and I was lucky if I came across even 1 person over 3 or 4 maps. This would only serve to further kill the ever dwindling population of pvpers, and make pvp that much less appealing to anyone thinking of starting.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 02:54

Hello, and this will probably start a screaming fit but whatever.

I have been playing the game for some time now and have noticed that HCS puts up the general location of Titans so every hunt can run off that location.

I don't know if there is a place to see when an SE shows up but do know you can see who has killed one and what they got if anything.

Now to the PvP link. My friends and I are not impressed by the canned hunt that link provides. We know that you can kill another player 5 levels up or down from your own. Of course if that link were removed you could only go after players your own level and 5 down from yours. The removal of that link would present a challenge of another kind, it would mean you would have to roam the areas you can access in order to make your kill. That's ok with us though.

You spend your stam in hunting a player, you run the risk of being killed instead of killing and of the loss of your experience and gold instead of taking the gold from the other player and costing them their experience.

That's ok with us too. That's what you call hunting. To us that's part of what the game is all about.

Guys, (HCS), would you consider the removal of that link? Please? Hunt or not, kill or not, but that's a lot like a hunter up a tree with a bear in a cage below. lol It's waaaaay to easy and it's not sporting.

Skiri. :)




:?: am i the only one confused by this? Hold on, you mean to say only be able to hit those 5 below you? but not 5 above? so theres no xp loss? And we have to search a map for them?

There are too many worlds to look across , let alone follow them around a map and wait for them to finish hunting before gold hitting them?

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 02:55

This would make bounty hunting nigh impossible, and completely unsatisfying as you would be unable to ever take on someone with more levels than you.

#6 sweetlou

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 02:56

:?: am i the only one confused by this?

Not at all...

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 02:56

Hes suggesting we walk around the map to find pvp targets and remove the little box that shows people in your range on the Attack Player screen

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:16

Then he should play Sigmastorm 2. That is more or less how it works in that HCS game and PvP is dead there!

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:18

Then he should play Sigmastorm 2. That is more or less how it works in that HCS game and PvP is dead there!


lol I was going to add that but I wasnt entirely sure that was how it worked. I made an account on there but quickly abandoned it because there didnt seem to be a way to pvp

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:31

Then he should play Sigmastorm 2. That is more or less how it works in that HCS game and PvP is dead there!


lol I was going to add that but I wasnt entirely sure that was how it worked. I made an account on there but quickly abandoned it because there didnt seem to be a way to pvp

Bottom line is that chasing down or hunting a PvP target, if you will, is not viable and has been proven in the other HCS game. I love how suggestions to drastically change PvP come up every now and then. The system is getting better but...

I'd like to see the devs simply finish tweaking what they've started to improve the current PvP system. I see they like to put bandaids hoping that the bleeding of the broken aspects of the system stops. Aspects like PvP points and player trading. Stop prestige trading once and for all by adding xp loss for players below your VL as well as above. There are plenty of necessary tweaks listed in thread after thread.

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#11 Tlingit

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 21:11

I have a question for you.

What's wrong with PvPing people your own level?

Foget up or down, for the moment at least.

When I'm hunting it's a rare day when I don't see at least 3 or 4 other players in the same zone with me, it's usually more than that because the game slows down as the number of players in an area increases. I run onto players that have been gone for awhile, some that are hunting and know all of the them could be targets if I PvP'd.

All players are limited by level to zones for that level, sometimes there are 2, 3 or more zones for any given level. There are 4 zones for level 150, 3 for 160. Each zone gives you access to players that are the same level.

Do you really need a link to help you find someone to kill?

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 21:19

I have a question for you.

What's wrong with PvPing people your own level?

Foget up or down, for the moment at least.

When I'm hunting it's a rare day when I don't see at least 3 or 4 other players in the same zone with me, it's usually more than that because the game slows down as the number of players in an area increases. I run onto players that have been gone for awhile, some that are hunting and know all of the them could be targets if I PvP'd.

All players are limited by level to zones for that level, sometimes there are 2, 3 or more zones for any given level. There are 4 zones for level 150, 3 for 160. Each zone gives you access to players that are the same level.

Do you really need a link to help you find someone to kill?



As you go higher in levels there are less players to pvp at one's level ;) hence the 5 level range above or below which allows players to participate in pvp, where by it would otherwise be virtually non existent.At EOC there would be only a few players to hit? It's bad enough now where they only have 5 levels of range.

#13 Tlingit

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 21:35

With the number of people that play this game there will always be players the same level, and those players will be in the zone for that level. I guess that means people get bored and move on to other games, leaving their name in this game to go dormant.

I also know that people just give up if they get killed enough times and fail to make much progress in the game, or they just come to talk to the friends they have made.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 21:36

We see players on the map only if they are active...

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#15 Tlingit

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 21:47

I personally have seen players on the map that have been gone for up to 15 minutes. I have clicked the icon and looked.

lol There is window of time.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 22:06

I personally have seen players on the map that have been gone for up to 15 minutes. I have clicked the icon and looked.

lol There is window of time.

Its takes about 20 mins for your icon to disappear. Their point is, the higher you got in levels, the more and more this simply wouldnt work out, like at all. It would be interesting to see during titan hunts I would admit, but overall, it would kill pvp for anyone who wasnt willing to delevel down to a target rich environment like yours or mine ;)

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 23:12

I personally have seen players on the map that have been gone for up to 15 minutes. I have clicked the icon and looked.

lol There is window of time.


For every argument that you can make towards only being able to attack people that are on the same square as you, in the end, it has been tried and failed in SS2.

#18 Tlingit

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 23:59

Touchy huh?

Pity to scream for a mod when one is not really needed and I search for understanding to the why of a particular mind set and the actions it generates.

#19 fs_gravely

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 00:21

Who here is calling for a mod?

This idea is horrible, and anyone with any pvp experience at level 400+ knows it.

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 00:48

Touchy huh?

Pity to scream for a mod when one is not really needed and I search for understanding to the why of a particular mind set and the actions it generates.


Not touchy, just stating a fact.


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