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#21 killerz15

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:17

everything ive bought from the AH so far ive sent over to dom

#22 shokolo

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:18

I hope HCS will help you guys WindBattle , but in any case, after its settled, talk to me in game, i will see what i can donate to you guys

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:18

thats not all true, i have several of my friends buying those items to return them back to windbattle and dom


Thank you we appreciate it more than you know. I know some people are helping us, but 90% or more are just reselling the gear for a quick profit. I have checked and saw it being resold with my own eyes.

The problem lies with going back and tracking all this trading.

#24 killerz15

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:20

I hope HCS will help you guys WindBattle , but in any case, after its settled, talk to me in game, i will see what i can donate to you guys


Same here, i will donate what i can

#25 Windbattle

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:23

Shameless plug, but here it goes ...

I'll be selling buffs indefinitely, to recoup some of my losses. Most are at level 165, others at level 160, and one or two are under 160. I'll be selling moderately cheap, so come and get them.

#26 DomCorvis

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:26

thank you all again for sending our gear back and all the donations. we will NEVER forget any of you

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#27 Windbattle

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:28

thank you all again for sending our gear back and all the donations. we will NEVER forget any of you


+1,000,000 , we will somehow pay back your kindness, maybe not right away but I'm a man of my word, 8)

#28 EJames2100

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:29

Odd when another guild got hacked, all people could hear was screaming off wanting and NEEDING a rollback.
Not only is more attention given to the High Guilds by HCS but by Players also it seems.

If someone was hacking an account for 2 straight days then the owner wouldn't have been able to log-in if the system works that way, surely the owner must have thought that suspicious ?

#29 DomCorvis

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:33

well best we can assume is it was 2 days...Mrlucky52 joined SA yesterday then left today...spoke a few obscenities and then this. I have a message from redwings telling me to call him Mr lucky guy...dont think its a coincidence....it could have taken 2 min for all we know but I assume this was a planned thing and we are just the victims....

and yes wind WE will pay all these great and kind folks back some how some way.

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#30 Belaric

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:33

The problem is failure of support over the weekend. (Among other things.) HCS - do you really believe you can run Eldevin with 48 hour of zero support in a 24/7 3D environment? I am infuriated with the cows over the consistent failure of weekend support - how many times does something have to be implemented on a Friday only to be a disaster/needing to be corrected by Monday? Really? Why not advertise that no support is available from Friday pm to Monday am Scotland time? Why not tell hackers that the weekend is 'Go' time? You advertised your success to us - the paying public, that you had shiny new offices in Elgin, how about repaying us, the paying public, with some actual weekend cover that knows what it is doing? Is there only Hoof that can program? Is there only Grim that can design well? Is there only Forn to quote movies and draw?
I have contributed not inconsiderable sums of cash to this game, and will probably contribute again against my better judgement, but a core problem has and remains the failure of hard and software support over the weekend - this hacking simply highlights it. If you want 'Brand loyalty' to Eldevin you had better sort out this problem in FS sooner rather than later, or your projected revenue streams will be as unimpressive as....... something I saw recently.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:36

I love how people dust off the word hacker when something like this happens.

Maybe, just maybe, your guild's founder wasn't nearly as benevolent as you'd like to believe. Maybe, they secretly were just juicing you for all the sauce they could get, and picked a perfect time to strike.

Think about it. Why else kick the other founder? Absolution. Deflection. Because 'hacker' sounds nicer than 'greedy player'....point being, hacking an account is incredibly difficult, while this....this sounds a bit too easy. A bit too convenient.

Be wary of whom you trust.

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:39

I don't have much to add or offer other than this, in hopes that maybe some sheer numbers will matter to HCS. And that's not a kick at them, I just am not aware of how things like this have been handled in the past.

Whatever needs to be done to make this right, has my +1. Everyone, big or small, should be able to play this game knowing that they are at least slightly protected from out of the ordinary circumstances.
I do think that anything sold a VERY SHORT TIME after this started can just be covered by "oh, I just thought I was getting a good deal". Those items should be traced and pulled. Regardless of FSP spent. In very many places, buying stolen goods is actually against the law. And regardless if you "knew" it was stolen, it doesn't entitle you to further ownership. I know there is probably much much more to it that just looking at some logs and pulling the stolen gear.. just throwing out my support is all.

If anything I say draws flames, I'll gladly take them in pm, please don't clutter someone else's thread with issues on my opinion. Again, best of luck to SA.

#33 Belaric

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:44

Okay - lets imagine the supposed founder was not benevolent, but just waited until he could screw everyone and steal everything.

I think the other founder was kicked by the 'evil twin' founder, the one who was not a hacker, but a snake in the grass.

The perfect time to strike remains the weekend, for the reasons I explained previously.

Whether or not the guild was wrecked by a 'hacker' or a 'duplicitous founder' the problem is the same - Monday to Friday the response from the HCS authorities would be faster.

So yes, whoever it was, (and I prefer hacker over duplicitous(*hole) founder) they did pick the perfect time to strike. The weekend, when no-one is minding the store. As usual.

#34 Ramses1977

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:48

Okay - lets imagine the supposed founder was not benevolent, but just waited until he could screw everyone and steal everything.

I think the other founder was kicked by the 'evil twin' founder, the one who was not a hacker, but a snake in the grass.

The perfect time to strike remains the weekend, for the reasons I explained previously.

Whether or not the guild was wrecked by a 'hacker' or a 'duplicitous founder' the problem is the same - Monday to Friday the response from the HCS authorities would be faster.

So yes, whoever it was, (and I prefer hacker over duplicitous(*hole) founder) they did pick the perfect time to strike. The weekend, when no-one is minding the store. As usual.

how would it make any difference if it was in teh middle of the week or the week end if the guild lead said f every one this is my stuff i am guild owner they do have the right it is the risk everyone takes if we don't like it there is always ...........not playing/paying edit here.......... that even though the guild founder didn't do it, and 'if' it is the guild founder who is doing it, the reason may be because alot of players are buying the stuff and sending it back to them ?

#35 DomCorvis

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:51

I have 100% faith in my founder/'s as we've ALL donated hundreds of dollars to our guild to make it better...

as far the difference between this happening mid-week as compared to weekend....HCS is not in office during the weekends...hence perfect hacker time....allows them to have ample time to boot everyone and destroy guild....

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#36 shokolo

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:54

Okay - lets imagine the supposed founder was not benevolent, but just waited until he could screw everyone and steal everything.

I think the other founder was kicked by the 'evil twin' founder, the one who was not a hacker, but a snake in the grass.

The perfect time to strike remains the weekend, for the reasons I explained previously.

Whether or not the guild was wrecked by a 'hacker' or a 'duplicitous founder' the problem is the same - Monday to Friday the response from the HCS authorities would be faster.

So yes, whoever it was, (and I prefer hacker over duplicitous(*hole) founder) they did pick the perfect time to strike. The weekend, when no-one is minding the store. As usual.

how would it make any difference if it was in teh middle of the week or the week end if the guild lead said f every one this is my stuff i am guild owner they do have the right it is the risk everyone takes if we don't like it there is always ...........not playing/paying edit here.......... that even though the guild founder didn't do it, and 'if' it is the guild founder who is doing it, the reason may be because alot of players are buying the stuff and sending it back to them ?



By what you say , Minsk should still be playing ...............as he was the founder at the time, and he didnt even hack anyone to be there

#37 fs_mrwright

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:55

Ample time? Thanks to the guild mailbox, you only need a few seconds to kick everyone out. Just have each player tabbed for kicking, and you can kick a full guild in under a minute. Then you have all day to get rid of the crap in the mailbox. Seriously though, it wouldn't have made much a difference if this was mid-week, other than the fact that this person would have done it around 0100 ST, when the cows are dreaming of green grass.

#38 Ramses1977

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:57

Okay - lets imagine the supposed founder was not benevolent, but just waited until he could screw everyone and steal everything.

I think the other founder was kicked by the 'evil twin' founder, the one who was not a hacker, but a snake in the grass.

The perfect time to strike remains the weekend, for the reasons I explained previously.

Whether or not the guild was wrecked by a 'hacker' or a 'duplicitous founder' the problem is the same - Monday to Friday the response from the HCS authorities would be faster.

So yes, whoever it was, (and I prefer hacker over duplicitous(*hole) founder) they did pick the perfect time to strike. The weekend, when no-one is minding the store. As usual.

how would it make any difference if it was in teh middle of the week or the week end if the guild lead said f every one this is my stuff i am guild owner they do have the right it is the risk everyone takes if we don't like it there is always ...........not playing/paying edit here.......... that even though the guild founder didn't do it, and 'if' it is the guild founder who is doing it, the reason may be because alot of players are buying the stuff and sending it back to them ?



By what you say , Minsk should still be playing ...............as he was the founder at the time, and he didnt even hack anyone to be there

"Oh really? If it truly was a 'hacker' they would be able to hack into any account, in time? No matter how difficult your password is...huh..You make me wanna buy a vault, and throw my account in it"


that reply was mainly to you DomCorvis :) quoted the wrong guy

#39 shokolo

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:59

"Oh really? If it truly was a 'hacker' they would be able to hack into any account, in time? No matter how difficult your password is...huh..You make me wanna buy a vault, and throw my account in it"



I am not arguing the point if it was a real hack or not , i am arguing the point you said he was the founder at the time and has rights

By what happened to Minsk , i am guessing you dont have the right even if you are the founder

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:59

Secret Alliance was a guild that was in the top 250 a player who could've picked a random guild or a player who planned this ahead of time against my fellow friend arichey22 decided it would be fun to hack Secret Alliance and get rid of all our stuff we spent over hundreds of U.S dollars into upgrading that guild just to have a destroyed by some random person. This hacking should be put to an end. arichey22 did not give out his password. The hacker owns the guild now why should he still be aloud to play a game if he is going to do something like that. Getting rid of that account just won't fix the problem he will create a knew one and do it all over again and maybe to Art of War (Secret Alliance's training guild) and who knows what else he will do, I only see one solution that can put an end or slow down hackers such as an IP ban.
Even though people doubt hackers and say it is from someones own greed then tell my why have we been a guild for over a year the guild founder was not greedy in fact he loved his guild and everyone in it. After I came back from the Army, it was over a year since I have seen arichey22 and he still showed me hospitality and remembered how i helped the guild, he was a nice person with respect to all of his subordinates. So no the guild was not destroyed because of the founders greed disagree with me all you want but it is the truth.


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