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#461 fs_evfisher

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:00

Sometimes less is more. Think of the poor cows who will read all the going around in circles done in this thread. . . . . . . . . (Not saying Im not guilty)


Maybe they will read it, maybe they will scan through it, maybe they will glean something out of it. There are a lot of good posts here KT, and a lot of ideas. But the question I keep going back to, is what does the community really want, and what is HCS willing to provide to keep the community happy? :)

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:01

My head would explode, if I were the cows and had to sort through all this.... lol

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:05

My head would explode, if I were the cows and had to sort through all this.... lol


Nah, it wouldn't, just put pen to paper, and make notes. :) Ignore the flaming and name calling, and read the ones that look like they have some meat and potatoes logic, and take notes. :D

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:20

Ignore the flaming and name calling,

What would be left...... :|

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:24

Constructive suggestions lol :P :mrgreen:

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:29

Shoot I did not mean to scare everybody away lol :roll:

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#467 fs_regnier7

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:39

I think everyone is just recouperating from all the discussion. lol

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:45

one thing HCS _Needs_ to do when they do whatever the next pvp update is, is to cover all the pvp changes over the last 2 weeks. I have made an effort to keep up with all the changes but still find I am missing one or 2 things here and there. So(too?) much so(too?) soon.

HCS does need to make a news post (and)or a stickied[+ locked] thread once they have finished adjusting things, so people can understand exactly what has changed. If you have been away for a couple of weeks, good luck catching up with the confusion out there now :P

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:54

Here's a thought: get a couple of level 10 players, have them hit semi-inactives to boost their rating, then pass it along to a few of them building up their rating, get the rewards and maybe pass it along to some main account. Not saying that this is what will happen, but the possibility is there.

Please make these rewards bound so that this isn't encouraged. And if that happens I guess the rewards should include consumable items so that people who dominate that one doesn't feel cheated for doing good.

Just my 2c.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 05:12

Gawd! This is the worst update ever. All of a sudden I have to listen to ppl complaining and whining about getting their bounties cleared? And why? Because they loose their ever so precious rating.

There ought to be a school for all those who all of a sudden have decided to become PvPers and bounty hunters, simply because they think they can now make a profit on it.

I'll do the first part of the education, and it goes like this;
1. You hit someone, you get rating (and hopefully gold).
2. You get posted, and is now free for the taking.
3. You get cleared, and you loose your rating in the process (and gold if you haven't hidden it away).
4. Do NOT cry about it, noone really likes a crybaby.


Get rid of those crappy pvp tokens and rewards. I for one do not give a rats rear about 'em, and sure the rest of you may, but this is just becoming annoying beyond belief!

No one can deny that we changed this game and influenced it in such a way that NO ONE could compete with us.. so much so that they changed the rules. ~Abhorrence, chosen founder of Cerulean Sins


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Posted 16 August 2010 - 05:19

Gawd! This is the worst update ever. All of a sudden I have to listen to ppl complaining and whining about getting their bounties cleared? And why? Because they loose their ever so precious rating.

There ought to be a school for all those who all of a sudden have decided to become PvPers and bounty hunters, simply because they think they can now make a profit on it.

I'll do the first part of the education, and it goes like this;
1. You hit someone, you get rating (and hopefully gold).
2. You get posted, and is now free for the taking.
3. You get cleared, and you loose your rating in the process (and gold if you haven't hidden it away).
4. Do NOT cry about it, noone really likes a crybaby.


Get rid of those crappy pvp tokens and rewards. I for one do not give a rats rear about 'em, and sure the rest of you may, but this is just becoming annoying beyond belief!


Ummmmm, geee, I wonder what I have been saying? LOL :)

#472 shokolo

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 06:28

Get rid of those crappy pvp tokens and rewards. I for one do not give a rats rear about 'em, and sure the rest of you may, but this is just becoming annoying beyond belief!



Could have been nice if those rating items came with a LE event rather then bashing , but meh, no one seems to care

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 06:49

I'll do the first part of the education, and it goes like this;
1. You hit someone, you get rating (and hopefully gold).
2. You get posted, and is now free for the taking.
3. You get cleared, and you loose your rating in the process (and gold if you haven't hidden it away).
4. Do NOT cry about it, noone really likes a crybaby.



The fact that I'm losing rating to a player is not my problem. But the fact that I'm losing all of the rating I worked hard and risked for is taken away in one or two bounties by players 300+ levels above mine, whome can beat me by sheer weight of stats, is.

Because it shows no real skill, does it?

That is why -I- was not all too impressed. Doing over 100 PvP hits on everyone I can find with any bit of gold or rating, just to get on that ladder and have a fair chance was showing my participation. But the guys who can do one bounty on me with 400 more levels or more behind them is just dandy though. I don't mind, but eh. ;)

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:07

I'm gonna be the odd man out. After playing with this update for a few days, I am VERY pleased. My rating used to get hugely inflated after bounty hunting - sometimes up to 2000. I do 0 pvp other than on the BB. I used to get hit for my rating (didn't bother me, but I always thought "sigh, another useless attack for useless rating."). Right now, after today I completed 12 bounties all over my level and I have a rating of 1200 something. This is a MAJOR change. I would have had a rating around 1800 before the update. I like that defense earns rating. It seperates me from those who hit solely for gold and rating. They pick easier targets in their range, and I pick difficult targets above me. I don't get hit for my rating, and lvl 300 players don't lose the majority of their rating.

Also, I love the 10-hit bounty system. It makes sense. Coupled with the open stamina option, it leaves the punishment for bounties even-handed, while still leaving the option for deleveling inside of guild or allied events. It is a perfect combo of the BOUNTIER and the HUNTER deciding how to hit on the BB. Those placing a ticket set the price (create demand to hit), and hunters can punish counter-bounties. Great!

Showing deflect in the logs - brilliant. It's been asked for awhile now, but this really makes multiple tickets a breeze to sort, even without FSHelper.

Backward gold loss. I wasn't initially a fan, but it makes sense in some scenarios. Haha, I remember an unnamed individual used to hit ppl on the BB with SB on just to take buffs and be annoying (it is a little funny). Those who hit a ridiculous number of times without a point SHOULD lose gold, and, I have not lost much gold at all by stashing between big bounty sets. The verdict is still out for me on this one. I'm sure the first time I get a backward MT, I will be pissed :).

All in all, I think this update is an improvement 1) certainly on the BB, and 2) a small step for PvP off the board. I like to try things out before reviewing (makes sense) and my review after 30 or so bounties is thumbs up!

Additional suggestions: take away any PvP increase for those hitting down outwith their range, but always allow a decreased transfer for defending against low level on the board. This way, those initiating an attack will never shoot down, but they are not "open season" on the BB either.

All for now :)

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:11

I saw someone suggesting a different system in one of the many threads we've had about the pvp ladder updates.

Basically it would be a tally of complete amount of rating compiled over a period of time, not what you have "on hand" whenever the ladder resets.

That is in my eyes a fantastic idea, and would be far more fair to those that PvP a alot, and not just those who hit on the right bounties.

And a lowering of rating loss/gain on board would be hugely appreciated, all along with a increase in rating loss/gain from off board PvP.

This is after-all supposed to be the PvP ladder, not the bounty hunter ladder.

No one can deny that we changed this game and influenced it in such a way that NO ONE could compete with us.. so much so that they changed the rules. ~Abhorrence, chosen founder of Cerulean Sins


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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:12

All of a sudden I have to listen to ppl complaining and whining about getting their bounties cleared?


All of a sudden? When did people NOT complain about getting their bounties cleared? I must have missed that golden era ;)

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:15

All of a sudden I have to listen to ppl complaining and whining about getting their bounties cleared?


All of a sudden? When did people NOT complain about getting their bounties cleared? I must have missed that golden era ;)


I hardly ever got complaints b4. Now I get 'em on most clears... and I bloody hate it. I am a bounty hunter, and as such I do not care the slightest bit about your level, or rating. Admitted, I would prefer harder challenges on the board, but whatchagonna do, I liked to level as well...

No one can deny that we changed this game and influenced it in such a way that NO ONE could compete with us.. so much so that they changed the rules. ~Abhorrence, chosen founder of Cerulean Sins


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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:19

All of a sudden I have to listen to ppl complaining and whining about getting their bounties cleared?


All of a sudden? When did people NOT complain about getting their bounties cleared? I must have missed that golden era ;)


I hardly ever got complaints b4. Now I get 'em on most clears... and I bloody hate it. I am a bounty hunter, and as such I do not care the slightest bit about your level, or rating. Admitted, I would prefer harder challenges on the board, but whatchagonna do, I liked to level as well...


Hmm... I oddly have not gotten any rating complaints. I still get the "I have __ reserved for my bounties/ You need to send back all my gold/ I will counter you!!" Kit, I think the reason they complain to you is this nagging topic of down-shots. I know you don't WANT the rating (neither do I, to be honest) but, people any good number of levels below you are probably mad because they think of all high-level hunters as ratings farmers. Easy solution - take away rating transfer from downward hits outwith range :).

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:22

Easy solution - take away rating transfer from downward hits outwith range :).


Would work for me.. still think the suggestion a few posts back would be better, since your suggestion effectively would take all high lvlers outta the PvP rating game... and some of 'em might get a bit hizzy about that ^_^

It could actually result in some funny new scenarios. If the tokens were rewarded on total sum of PvP rating gained during a period of time, ppl would be very interested in getting cleared of the board, since that would lower their rating, and make it easier to gain new.
That could result in ppl hitting, and then contacting to ask to be posted. Bios would read "Just post me, I will even pay the reward sum", more hits would be done all over the place to get a bounty put on your head etc...

No one can deny that we changed this game and influenced it in such a way that NO ONE could compete with us.. so much so that they changed the rules. ~Abhorrence, chosen founder of Cerulean Sins


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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:24

Easy solution - take away rating transfer from downward hits outwith range :).


Would work for me.. still think the suggestion a few posts back would be better, since your suggestion effectively would take all high lvlers outta the PvP rating game... and some of 'em might get a bit hizzy about that ^_^


Hehe, I'm sure. But if they are really "hardcore," they can hit you! :) Then they can earn additional rating by defending well on the BB.


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