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#121 abhorrence

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 21:30

I love all these changes to the PvP ladder, I mean just look, its another way to be ontop of the Bounty Hunters list, and most of all its not any REAL PVP, because ANYONE of ANY level can attack you while on it.

Make it a real PVP Ladder, remove all PVP rating change from the Bounty board, make people actually PVP and not just get the PvPer's raped on the Bounty Board.


This is highly unfair for higher level players that, even with new range +-10, have highly restricted targets.

#122 fs_thanos

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 21:33

I love all these changes to the PvP ladder, I mean just look, its another way to be ontop of the Bounty Hunters list, and most of all its not any REAL PVP, because ANYONE of ANY level can attack you while on it.

Make it a real PVP Ladder, remove all PVP rating change from the Bounty board, make people actually PVP and not just get the PvPer's raped on the Bounty Board.


This is highly unfair for higher level players that, even with new range +-10, have highly restricted targets.


Fortunately there are alot of members of the game at EOC... if they really wanna be on the PvP ladder they will have to bite the bullet and actually PvP for it, just like everyone else.

#123 abhorrence

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 21:40

Fortunately there are alot of members of the game at EOC... if they really wanna be on the PvP ladder they will have to bite the bullet and actually PvP for it, just like everyone else.


I have approximately 15-25 targets for everyone of my levels in my range, some being inactive and not providing me pvp rating. So for arguments sake an average of 15 per level for 20 levels. That's 300 targets.

The Top 250 players, which is 50 less targets then I have readily accessible to me, span a range of 826 to 981. This type if strict limitation isn't fair at all.

I can absolutely sympathize with highest level players being concerned about decreased rating gain from lower level players, but still feel it is fair.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 21:42

so what you are saying is that you are supporting the ability to now stay at the top of 2 ladders by doing 1 task... thats fine... looks fair to me...

#125 abhorrence

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 21:47

so what you are saying is that you are supporting the ability to now stay at the top of 2 ladders by doing 1 task... thats fine... looks fair to me...


Clearly, I never said that anywhere.

#126 fs_oblivion05

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 22:24

****** says: you attack me again ******* and you got a problem i dont pvp [ Reply | Buff | Trade ]


And you guys wonder why we are mean, often :roll:

#127 sweetlou

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 22:29

****** says: you attack me again asshole and you got a problem i dont pvp [ Reply | Buff | Trade ]


And you guys wonder why we are mean, often :roll:


[report] works to curb those players! Let the devs handle it. Don't PM back. Just report.

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#128 fs_oblivion05

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 22:31

****** says: you attack me again ******* and you got a problem i dont pvp [ Reply | Buff | Trade ]


And you guys wonder why we are mean, often :roll:


[report] works to curb those players! Let the devs handle it. Don't PM back. Just report.


Done ;)

#129 fs_theoryman

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 22:37

If making a "fair" system for PvP rating on the bounty board is impossible, maybe come up with something new. Like this idea.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=95841

#130 fs_psylonpon

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 22:41


Im not trying to judge you for using the system as it is, I was just curious as to if that rating meant as much to you knowing its possible for players even higher then you to take bounties on players even lower then me and gain massive amounts of rating for it? I mean, rating is supposed to be "How good you are at pvp", or at least thats what I thought it meant. I apologized sincerely for using you as an example, it was a matter of convenience because you had spoken up about a level playing field. :(

I gained 50 points from a level 5 bounty last night. Yes, level 5. Did i really merit finishing #6 with those points?

And earlier today after the reset i took 117 points from a level 32. Why can i do that? There's 0 challenge, yet they add to my pvp rating.



Yeah! I was doing everything in my power to stop you and the other guy and even with all the buffs from your guildmates I had no chance of stopping you :P


Oh well back to harvesting PvP points off those lvl 5 guys who get on the BB :D

#131 EKUEKU

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 23:04

I understand catering to the lower levels of the game to keep them interested in the PVP ladder update, but you probably just made it virtually impossible for higher levels to get pvp raiting, especially those that don't have relic bonuses.

I like the other three, but not happy with the update overall. There are other ways to look into it. If you look at the PVP ladder that you just reset, then you will see there are lower levels that are up there without losing all of their rating.




Not only that A lot of us do not like the Changes made to game/ Reminds me of another game :roll: :evil: :(

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#132 octave666

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 23:06

hope your happy HCS ....BUUURRRRPPPP !!!!!! I aint got hours to sit and gain my pvp I worked hard to get to where i was before this update for nothing now and it will never be the same... *waves a finger* and i shall not be donating agin!!!

#133 EJames2100

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 23:09

I can absolutely sympathize with highest level players being concerned about decreased rating gain from lower level players, but still feel it is fair.


Then perhaps you can sympathize about what I say, where the Rating Decrease goes both ways, Up and Down, not just aimed towards High lvl Players.
Bragging rights should be more than enough for a low lvl beating a high lvl guy in Combat, and even more so when finishing the Bounty.

So why do they need to gain a lot more PvP Rating of a High lvl player than a High lvl Player ever would off them ?

And Reg, maybe that also shows you that some people don't really actually like PvP in any way, shape or form ?
Sure some are dicks about it but the point still stands.

#134 fs_oblivion05

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 23:10

So why do they need to gain a lot more PvP Rating of a High lvl player than a High lvl Player ever would off them ?
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Simply because high levels can farm our ratings away with NO loss at all, while a lower level CAN lose to a higher level, providing him PvP points. I think it's very fair.

#135 EJames2100

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 23:17

True.
But one counter Bounty on a High lvl pretty much insures their PvP is down the drainer.

And it also wouldn't be very hard for someone say lvl 400 to beat me quite easily with me having some basic buffs on(Ain't paying for buffs and using Pots for Bounty Def), so there goes my Rating to someone 300 lvls lower, but somehow this is fair ?

This just seems for another way to have high lvls sink Stamina, time and effort, and just makes them want to PvP Safer.
And unless these new rewards offer them something they would want then I doubt you'll be seeing many of them on the Ladder tbh.

#136 fs_kitteh666

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 23:19

In this latest game update, we have made the following changes to the PvP ladded/system:

- The PvP Ladder ending time has now been made random. Note however that there will be a minimum of 7 days between resets.

- The bounty board has been changed back so that all PvP hits confer a rating adjustment rather than just the final completer of the bounty. Note however that attacks outwith the bounty board apply a 25% increase to PvP rating transfer.

- A reduction is now being applied in PvP rating transfer to bounties, dependant on how much higher the attacking player is above the bounty target.

- Stamina limitations have been removed from bounties. You can now choose between 10 and 100 stamina for bounty attacks.

We hope you approve of the changes!

~ The Fallen Sword Team


1. Don't care.
2. Don't care.
3. Meh. Don't care.
4. WHAT? I want stamina limitation back! I want to set a maximum stamina of 10 for bounties and the always 10 kills... I HATE THIS! I want the ability to set kills for bounties back!

I hate the bounty stamina limit removal update!

#137 kingtyrin

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 23:20

And unless these new rewards offer them something they would want then I doubt you'll be seeing many of them on the Ladder tbh.

This has been my point from the beginning!

The people who should be at the top of the ladder should be the ones who care enough about being the best at pvp, not the ones that care about the rewards :(

I seriously think if there was no rewards, this thread would be half the length if even.

We set out to put value back into the ladder, and I think they took that too literal :(

#138 fs_oblivion05

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 23:27

And it also wouldn't be very hard for someone say lvl 400 to beat me quite easily with me having some basic buffs on(Ain't paying for buffs and using Pots for Bounty Def), so there goes my Rating to someone 300 lvls lower, but somehow this is fair ?.


Someone level 400 can beat you, I didn't say they couldn't. However, with your setup on, I find it impossible that a level 400 will 10-0 you. They'll lose more than you think, again, providing you, your rating back.

#139 fs_evfisher

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 01:11

I find it facinating, really and truly. For months, PvPers screaming on the forums for PvP and PvP rating change. HCS listens, gives PvPers change. PvPers are not happy with some of the changes, and what things changed again. HCS listens, and changes things again. Still, PvPers are not happy. So, HCS says, okay what can we do to make you happy. Again, changes are made, listening to the PvPers. And now, after a whole bunch of changes, PvPers are still not happy.

What does it take, to make you happy?

HCS changed rating gathering, HCS changed the bounty board, HCS changed rating gathering again, HCS changed the bounty board again. HCS has bent over backwards to give PvPers what they wanted, and it isn't correct, or it isn't enough.

All levelers want, is an opt out potion or and opt out option. That would make us happy. :)

One simple thing, is all levelers ask for, and we don't get it.

#140 fs_oblivion05

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 01:17

HCS changed rating gathering, HCS changed the bounty board, HCS changed rating gathering again, HCS changed the bounty board again. HCS has bent over backwards to give PvPers what they wanted, and it isn't correct, or it isn't enough.


None of us ever asked for 20 hits on a bounty, nor a stam limit. There was nothing wrong with the board, except the 1 hit bounties, which is fixed now. HCS listened yes, but they made the wrong changes each time. It's not our fault they come up with suggestions that I can't remember anyone making, and heck, even implementing them.

Basically their fault that they have to change over, and over, instead of listening to great suggestions I have seen that most of us agree on.

PS: The rating gathering is still not correct.


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