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#541 Maehdros

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 15:54

Who said I was complaining?



I kinda posted two posts into one... never said you were complaining ,and it wasnt directed at you lol,meanwhile...you get bountied yet? oO

#542 Kedyn

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:27

The issue is the broken system the cows have put in game. How they managed to mess it up even beyond what anyone could imagine.


The cows read suggestion, then implement them wrong.

Rating traded between winner and loser -> Added a bonus. Makes no sense

25% off the board -> 1.25 to 1.00 versus 1.00 to 0.20 as asked. The effect is obviously not felt.

The system is designed to benefit point farmers who take no risks, point farmers who take no risks are at the top. How can anyone complain about the people rather than the system in this scenario?

Good job shin you did the best of the system and as far as I have read you haven't colluded with anyone to get your points. I simply believe that the system shouldn't have allowed you to get on top with a risk-less strategy.


It's not only point farmers. I will admit that the bounty board does allow this, and most of the higher levels up on the PVP ladder are using bounty hunts to get their PVP rating up.

Another problem lies within the lower levels who are attacking accounts that are starting to go inactive (more than 4 days, less than 30). Even with a rating well above those players (at least 500-600) above, you can take 2 PVP points per attack, and possibly more with Gloat. If you have a level 40 player or level 115 player with 500-1000 stamina, that's between 100-200 PVP points at the minimum a day. Even if they do get hit by the occassional lower level player, they just bounty the person and continue on. Most lower levels aren't 100 stamming those up on the PVP board.

Not only are they hitting inactives, but there are quite a few of players up on the ladder who are paying players to lose to them. That, to me, is the same effect as advertising Free RP, or we will lose GVGs to lower our rating. In this case it is just turned around.

#543 Mister Doom

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:29

Got most of my FSP back. Be a while before I rush to donate again however, if ever.

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#544 Mister Doom

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:36

What, and realize this is a game and perhaps that spending that much cash on bytes of data may not be the best expenditure?

You asked for it, doom. I'm almost sorry for you. In fact, I am.

Unfortunately I'm still laughing so hard it's difficult to type at the moment.


In response to your petty response, the amount of FSP I spent to aquire these items was probably more than most players of FS will ever see, sure. What I choose to spend my hard-earned money on is none of anyone elses business however, besides I could afford it. :) The thing that upset me the most wasn't the fact that I was out money and FSP, it was the fact that i am one of the most loyal FS players in the game yet they still treat me this way.

I'm glad another failure on the part of HCS made you so happy. Or perhaps it was simply that it happened to me.. Which is why I said 'Grow up'. Perhaps 'Get over yourself and stop being so childish' would have been a better fit, sorry I couldn't really assign you much attention at the time.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:40

Got most of my FSP back. Be a while before I rush to donate again however, if ever.



u didnt do too bad then if u got most back and u get to keep the items sounds like u did rather well from it :)

but on that point i wish hcs would seriously check what they do b4 they release it ie check it checkit again and again and then once more as this happens way too often

#546 watagashi

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:41

my 2gp added with Ripples.

First off thank you for adding a new feature that brought the fun back to the game, to be honest Ripple was tuning out before this it ws getting boring.

That said afte talking to her and thinking about it myself i have a few suggestions. Firstly she got the recipes yesterday, I dont know if they have some massive set bonus like a fush set but there wasnt anything we went WOW to especially considering the weeks of work it will take for us to get even one piece.

Yes weeks, we arent paying people to let us farm their pvp, we dont have an army of multis to help us and since we are getting our pvp off the board one idiot takes days of stam and hard work away with one cute button click.

in a perfect world here is what I would do to "fix it"

Reset randomly WITHIN every 7 days, anyone looking at the ladder can see after 7 days the pvp ratings have been spread out to the point its impoossable to climb to the top again after a 500 rating loss on one counter bounty. This also keeps people working on this instead of giving up in apathy because it will take forever just to get an amoeba. Token prizes should be increased especially if its going to take a week for a reset.

It should be more focoused on pvp and not a game of who can find more people willing to whore out their rating or a game of who can go the longest without being countered. Rating transfer should be substantially increased for actual PvP (this rewards the risk taken by a direct attack) and only one pvp attack per day should give rating per person (excepting bountys) this stops the pvp farming off multis and people selling their rating. For bountys there should be a smaller transfer with a bonus for the clearer. There SHOULD NOT be rating loss on counter bountys,,,this fixes the problem that there isnt a filter to keep the physical and mental children out of the game and people who counter just to ruin someones rating will have to find another way to be annoying. At the very least there should be no counters for the clearer. This keeps people from abusing the system with offers of payment for countering someone on the ladder (its happened already) or attempts to extort gold or points in liew of a counter and also bring more competition to the board.

I think its a great update and has made us excited to play again, please dont let it get ruined!

#547 Leos3000

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:42

This set needs to be restored, NOW.


As stated earlier, this set is not changing now. It is fixed. It WAS overpowered. You can do the same as C4rpy though. If you can provide EXACT info on what you spent, we can look into helping you out.


The set was fairly overpowered, but as far as creating a positive buzz for almost all the high level players it was extremely successful. I saw Doom and shin with the sets and had something I wanted to work for or buy as it was a set that not only looked cool Had great stats for many aspects of the game I partake in.

Grim if your not going to restore the set to its original stats, could you at least meet us in the middle of where it is now and where it was? Because currently the set is still decent, but NOT a must have :(

you nerfed the stats by 30% which was way to much of a hit to a set everyone wanted,

My suggestion would be to not fully restore the set, but to only nerf it by 10-15% of its original stats so its not a super power but still nice and strong :)

#548 watagashi

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:46

Oh yea one last thing,,,anyone advertising payment for an attack that is a loss. asking for payment to not counter/paying the mark ot to counter or paying for a pvp hit should have all rating and tokens stripped if not outright banned.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:49

Remember this is a feedback thread, about the Items and such from the Colosseum.
Take it easy and keep to the subject :)

#550 Mister Doom

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:55

Got most of my FSP back. Be a while before I rush to donate again however, if ever.



u didnt do too bad then if u got most back and u get to keep the items sounds like u did rather well from it :)

but on that point i wish hcs would seriously check what they do b4 they release it ie check it checkit again and again and then once more as this happens way too often


I had to give the items back, and I'm still out about 648 FSP.

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#551 Leos3000

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:55

Remember this is a feedback thread, about the Items and such from the Colosseum.
Take it easy and keep to the subject :)


You guys killed the most exciting items I had seen in a while :!:

you want to keep the stats how they are, change the helm to another slot so it at least pairs with the archeons, and It would be a more of a must have again.

Perfect solution change the helm to boots since you can easily change the set around anyway.

#552 C4RPY

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:57

Perfect solution change the helm to boots since you can easily change the set around anyway.


That's a nice idea :)

#553 Maehdros

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 16:57

Remember this is a feedback thread, about the Items and such from the Colosseum.
Take it easy and keep to the subject :)


You guys killed the most exciting items I had seen in a while :!:

you want to keep the stats how they are, change the helm to another slot so it at least pairs with the archeons, and It would be a more of a must have again.

Perfect solution change the helm to boots since you can easily change the set around anyway.



They should fix the ladder before fixing and making any items more desireable. It is nice to see great items, but not when the system that rewards them has sevaral fatal flaws.

#554 Leos3000

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:00

Remember this is a feedback thread, about the Items and such from the Colosseum.
Take it easy and keep to the subject :)


You guys killed the most exciting items I had seen in a while :!:

you want to keep the stats how they are, change the helm to another slot so it at least pairs with the archeons, and It would be a more of a must have again.

Perfect solution change the helm to boots since you can easily change the set around anyway.



They should fix the ladder before fixing and making any items more desireable. It is nice to see great items, but not when the system that rewards them has sevaral fatal flaws.



True, but he said he wanted feedback on items from the colosseum.

The laddder is a joke right now tho, especially with the flaw in gaining unlimited points for each atk

#555 hades8840

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:01

Got most of my FSP back. Be a while before I rush to donate again however, if ever.



u didnt do too bad then if u got most back and u get to keep the items sounds like u did rather well from it :)

but on that point i wish hcs would seriously check what they do b4 they release it ie check it checkit again and again and then once more as this happens way too often


I had to give the items back, and I'm still out about 648 FSP.



then that blows should get a full refund

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:03

Forn wrote:
Remember this is a feedback thread, about the Items and such from the Colosseum.
Take it easy and keep to the subject :)


Yes it is about just that Forn, but unfortunately the issues with the pvp ladder and this topic do go hand in hand that has to be acknowledged

#557 Mister Doom

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:04

Well that was my first thought, I gave them all the proof they could need about my donations and in-game transactions. They simply said something like, "We don't normally give much back on unverifiable claims like this but we do value you as a player which is why we're giving you a large amount."

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#558 FORN

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:08

Yes it is about just that Forn, but unfortunately the issues with the pvp ladder and this topic do go hand in hand that has to be acknowledged



oh yes i know that. But its easy to lose the point of a thread, i mean i just deleted basicly a death threat from here for no reason. Thats not good. Makes me hulk out.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:09

No offense to anyone but I reserve my right to wait to VOTE, in the NEXT re-post of this Topic, which will be soon I expect.

The so called PvP Ladder is misnamed since NO PvP'r could ever get on it. It's now filled with 'wanna be hunters' with their bribes & counter demands all listed in their BIO's, JUST so they can keep there precious points.

As far as the items go, I dont an issue with the stats are they stand but wonder why they dont all carry Enhancements of HONOR and or GLOAT to pacify these rich posers.


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May I also suggest that we fix the Top 250 Bounty Hunters list to only show ACTIVE players. This will allow others that have gained their Medals to now be listed,
below our beloved Bleltch of course. *waves*

:arrow: THIS was also a suggestion when the first Topic of foxing the original PvP Ladder first came up by the way, as well as many other great idea before it became corrupted that is. :cry:

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:14

>snip<



Then you don't know PvP -that- well then.... Massive damage isn't that helpful, and yes. They were extremely overpwered to the point where they were like three super fireblades in two slots....

How can you not see this? These are rewards for the PvP community, not for levelers. They should've asked for feedback in the first place, but they are now.


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