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#561 webhosting

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:34

Got most of my FSP back. Be a while before I rush to donate again however, if ever.


I am crying for you *See tears here*
*Hands you a tissue*

Seriously... You come on and gloat, about these precious new items, you forged, and show it off, and then get refunded for the FSP you spent because they got nerfed being too high, and then you STILL complain?. Ok I can understand that you had a legitimate beef with spending so much and then have the items change, and I could understand your beef if you didn't get a refund, however, you invented the items without even knowing what the sets were or what their values were, so you would have spent the fsp to craft without the knowledge of values, so you weren't losing no matter what. You had no idea what the sets were even rated at when you crafted them, and only when the idea of a stat drop was added, you complained after all the gloating. Don't threaten the cows after they nicely refunded you fsp you were spending anyways even if the stats would have been lower to start with, not to donate based on the fact that they did indeed refund you. In fact you should be thanking them for the refund. Just my opinion. If you're crying about the stats drop, it's simple, spend the fsp you were refunded and invent something more profitable.
Just because you're lvl 980 something doesn't give you a right to bite the hand that feeds you. They were nerfed for a very obvious reason. Game imbalance is exactly that. It makes it no fun for the rest of the players and I really don't think it's a good decision for the cows to completely screw their entire game just because one jumpy person has a complaint which WAS legit but is no longer now that they've been refunded..

Just thoughts IMO

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:37

So much for HCS's previous claims that they treat everyone equally, if what doom said is true.


Also, doom, if you don't think its anyone's business what you do with your $, then stop telling everyone what you do with your money.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:40

Un-thought out rant


You completely ignore the fact that TWO HCS representatives were told the items were overpowered, massively. TWO HCS reps responded in like that the items were fine, even fixed the bug I posted about them. The 'beef' as you put it is the treatment of loyal players who, after words direct from admins go ahead and buy/forge/craft items in good faith only to have the items they bought nerfed into oblivion. As I stated it wasn't so much about the cash/FSP, I actually kind of figured they would refund. It's the principle of bad treatment of players.

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#564 Mister Doom

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:41

So much for HCS's previous claims that they treat everyone equally, if what doom said is true.


Also, doom, if you don't think its anyone's business what you do with your $, then stop telling everyone what you do with your money.


It IS noones business, and before the debacle I never stated I had spent 'real money'. I 'gloated' about the items because I was proud to be the first to invent and wear them, you have a problem with that?

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:43

You were having fun rubbing it in the face of people who actually care about PvP.

I'm sure you'll deny that, but it was (and still is) obvious that was your primary motive for posting.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:44

Nope, I have no problem at all with any of it, except the part where you said you got special treatment from the cows. But that isn't a problem with you, rather the cows.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:46

You were having fun rubbing it in the face of people who actually care about PvP.

I'm sure you'll deny that, but it was (and still is) obvious that was your primary motive for posting.


You don't think perhaps that after looking through the recipes I bought, seeing an AWESOME couple of items. I perhaps wanted to be the first in FS to have them? I could care less if it annoyed you or not. You however made it quite clear immediately that it did, no 'gratz' or anything similar, straight to insults. How did you honestly expect me to respond?

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#568 Mister Doom

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:48

Nope, I have no problem at all with any of it, except the part where you said you got special treatment from the cows. But that isn't a problem with you, rather the cows.


I wouldn't think it would be a 'one-off' thing tbh. Lots of people know who I am, that I'm around almost everyday etc etc. It makes sense that they would be more trusting of my integrity than someone new to the game. Its basic common sense really, earned trust.

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#569 avvakum

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:48

Is it a famous The Colosseum of Doom thread? :lol:

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:50

You know what, doom, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps you were purely interested in having them first.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:52

Ouch, like a slap in the face ><

If the set woulda been Att and Def it woulda been beastly for PvP :D

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:53

Avvakum, you call me a narcissist..

Narcissism is the personality trait of egotism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness. Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote elitism or an indifference to the plight of others.

Egotism, yeah possibly.. However NONE of the other personality traits noted apply to me, certainly not selfishness or the indifference to the plight of others. Most of the huge arguments I get into on the forums are in the plight of others.

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#573 Mister Doom

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:55

You know what, doom, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps you were purely interested in having them first.


Thankyou, I had never been the first to have a great piece of equipment before.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:56

You know what, doom, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps you were purely interested in having them first.


Thankyou, I had never been the first to have a great piece of equipment before.


Do you see why, given past history, it might be a bit frustrating to watch everyone but the players who are fully invested in PvP get the gear that's supposed to be a reward from PvP?

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 17:59

You know what, doom, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps you were purely interested in having them first.


Thankyou, I had never been the first to have a great piece of equipment before.


Do you see why, given past history, it might be a bit frustrating to watch everyone but the players who are fully invested in PvP get the gear that's supposed to be a reward from PvP?


Sure, and if I had gone for the level 700 piece of pvp equipment and then come and gloated I would have understood the hostility.

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#576 watagashi

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 18:15

I have to apologise to all I called whiners when we were advrtising free wins on GvG.

If you attack me and loose will Pay you 1500 Gold
If you attack me and win I will bounty you!

^ thats gone beyond stupid to see everywhere now especially annoying when this was someone who countered me and called me a rating farmer when I only took 1 a hit.

But I saw Forn saying this thread should be about the items so,,,

For now more than a weeks worth of work seeing the recipes was very diaspointing!! Ripple and I have dumped way more stam into bounty hunting than it would have taken for a titan,,why arent these epic? And is it just me or are they all armor set? The Hel looks like the only one worth getting (again havent seen set bonuses but compared to the work of getting TKP these items dont compare to stam cost).

then theres the items cost to make,,being #1 or #2 is the only way to get a hatchling,,an item that takes it as resource should be AMAZING, game changing like a javelin, fush set or back in the day a WW, these dont seem to be anything but arena toys to me. Time will tell which brings my final point,,7 days i between resets means its going to be weeks before these are going to be made and weeks of fixes and changes that are obviously causing a lot of grief too. Again please make the resets no more than 7 days in between and not at least 7 days as it is now

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 18:17

Here is an idea to fix the ladder .. SCRAP IT! Just like conflicts, you would gain a certain fraction of a token for each pvp attack that you did - so there would, in theory, be no pvp ladder abuse :D

And bounties hits would have 1/10 of that fraction of tokens.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 18:22

Here is an idea to fix the ladder .. SCRAP IT! Just like conflicts, you would gain a certain fraction of a token for each pvp attack that you did - so there would, in theory, be no pvp ladder abuse :D

And bounties hits would have 1/10 of that fraction of tokens.



I could see how that would promote a lot of multiple accounts with low levels just hitting like crazy to rack up tokens

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 18:27

you want to keep the stats how they are, change the helm to another slot so it at least pairs with the archeons, and It would be a more of a must have again.


Why on earth should it be a must-have? (Apart from 'our guild has it').

It's supposed to be a PvP set (as BG says) and a reward for PvPers. Making it useful for levelling is the worst thing they could have done, because it leads to trading, abuse of the system and cheating. It should be even MORE nerfed damage-wise and made into a real PvP set, but unfortunately they first had to ask what that would be... and then ran a short poll where less than a guildfull of votes convinced them to leave it as a uber-levelling gear.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 18:34

It is hard for me to even talk about the items when i see that we are allowing players who do not play with integrity to win. Paying not to be hit. trading pvp. The 25% boost in pvp transfer in pvp is adding to this. I would like to know if their is anyway to fix it. Can you somehow discourage or punish this behavior?


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