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#41 fs_regnier7

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 14:59


I'm not talking just about profit. How many level 23 sets can a level 25 PvP'er really use? Shouldn't he have other rewards he or she can take advantage of instead of just the ability to make a set? Sure they can always level up, but as you well know, there are people who have chosen a level and stayed there ever since I started playing!!! :) I wouldn't mind a cow answer to this, regarding future planned rewards that are different than inventable items.

Think about it. More people are low level, more guilds will want the low level sets. That means they really wont lose that much because they will be able to sell out of volume. The "penalty" isnt as drastic as you may think.

I dont understand how you could be talking about anything but profit, Im pretty sure unless I level up, I dont need to be making myself a hellhearts set. . . . .

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Remember, Dale.... profit is merely a side benefit. It shouldn't be the main focus.... when that happens, in something like the ladder, it promotes abuse.

#42 fs_simoncelli

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:00

on the PvP Ladder can you add what level the players are next to the name pls so people know what level they are if they want to hit them

+1 (as I already asked it before at the other PvP topic)

#43 watagashi

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:04

Awesome update except for one thing, im reading it all to Ripple and she dos a double take about the recipe levels. Since she bought them ALL in good faitih they could all be made at that time and now cannot use them can she have a refund untill she is high enough and rebuys them then? Please do something like put directly in her bank or something so its not mugged away should you decide that it is only fair.

#44 kingtyrin

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:05

Awesome update except for one thing, im reading it all to Ripple and she dos a double take about the recipe levels. Since she bought them ALL in good faitih they could all be made at that time and now cannot use them can she have a refund untill she is high enough and rebuys them then? Please do something like put directly in her bank or something so its not mugged away should you decide that it is only fair.

More often then not, if your send in a ticket reflecting such issues, they are more then willing to comply in my experience.

#45 fs_evilpet

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:07

You can still learn a recipe at any level, just you cant invent untill you have reached the level cap.

so u could be sitting with resources doing nothing LOL if u havent reached that certain level u should cap it off at level 80 or something so multi cant abuse it and send there other accounts the sets but genuine players can make them to sell if they like


So you can sit down with PvP tokens doing nothing ;)

BTW nice update, but level restrictions should be like 1/3rd of lvl required to wear a set (if they have to be per recipe limit) and not a fixed value.

And there may be somewhat too much tokens in game very soon due to large amount given out weekly. I know it's a reward, but shouldn't some rewards be small ;)

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:08

Awesome update except for one thing, im reading it all to Ripple and she dos a double take about the recipe levels. Since she bought them ALL in good faitih they could all be made at that time and now cannot use them can she have a refund untill she is high enough and rebuys them then? Please do something like put directly in her bank or something so its not mugged away should you decide that it is only fair.

More often then not, if your send in a ticket reflecting such issues, they are more then willing to comply in my experience.



Hey, I am afraid that we cannot refund the cost of buying the recipe, as they are unbound you can of course sell them on if you wish.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:09

Have not read any replies in this thread yet, but I have a couple of observations. Just checked the recipes I had already learned and with the exception of the very low recipes, it appears that you must be within 100 levels of the Recipe Item Level in order to invent the Item. With pvp token rewards remaining bound, that will restrict the invention of the highest level set to very high level pvp'ers, either forcing them to fight with each other, OR farm points off of the bounty board.

With this redistribution of points, you have essentially almost TRIPLED The amount of PvP Reward Tokens coming into the game each week. Was this the intent? To have more out there so that the invented items would work their way into the community more quickly?

Also, It appears that a lower level player who CHOOSES to stay a certain level, say level 25, for gvg and PvP purposes, now MUST level in order to have any decent use of the new PvP Rewards, because the only item they can invent is the very lowest level set. I'm not sure this is quite fair. There are players who have reached and stayed at that level for a very long time, and some of them are every bit as much a PvP'er as someone else at a much higher level. Why penalize them? Will further rewards that are not recipes for invented, level-locked items be introduced in the future so that all may benefit? Thanks. I'm actually looking forward to doing a bit of PvP'ing here in the near future and trying to earn some items myself.

Because Dale, this was never supposed to be about the profit, it was supposed to be about changing the ladder to reflect true dominance. This way mixed with making the resources bound will cut down on the cheating to obtain the items dramatically, without having to make the actual items bound as they should in the first place(but thought about it too late)

Good job cows. :)


(said from a "level camper" ;) )


I'm not talking just about profit. How many level 23 sets can a level 25 PvP'er really use? Shouldn't he have other rewards he or she can take advantage of instead of just the ability to make a set? Sure they can always level up, but as you well know, there are people who have chosen a level and stayed there ever since I started playing!!! :) I wouldn't mind a cow answer to this, regarding future planned rewards that are different than inventable items.



spot on mate thats cray the inventing should be capped at level 80 or something to stop multi accounts abusing the ladder :)

#48 Anemie

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:09

And there may be somewhat too much tokens in game very soon due to large amount given out weekly. I know it's a reward, but shouldn't some rewards be small ;)

Yeap-now we'll have to many items gained from BH ladder..

#49 DaleJunior

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:10


I'm not talking just about profit. How many level 23 sets can a level 25 PvP'er really use? Shouldn't he have other rewards he or she can take advantage of instead of just the ability to make a set? Sure they can always level up, but as you well know, there are people who have chosen a level and stayed there ever since I started playing!!! :) I wouldn't mind a cow answer to this, regarding future planned rewards that are different than inventable items.

Think about it. More people are low level, more guilds will want the low level sets. That means they really wont lose that much because they will be able to sell out of volume. The "penalty" isnt as drastic as you may think.

I dont understand how you could be talking about anything but profit, Im pretty sure unless I level up, I dont need to be making myself a hellhearts set. . . . .


This is why I asked about future rewards that are different from an inventable set. If I am going to start getting into PvP'ing in a few levels, which I plan to do, I want to know what the future holds.

#50 kingtyrin

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:11

Awesome update except for one thing, im reading it all to Ripple and she dos a double take about the recipe levels. Since she bought them ALL in good faitih they could all be made at that time and now cannot use them can she have a refund untill she is high enough and rebuys them then? Please do something like put directly in her bank or something so its not mugged away should you decide that it is only fair.

More often then not, if your send in a ticket reflecting such issues, they are more then willing to comply in my experience.



Hey, I am afraid that we cannot refund the cost of buying the recipe, as they are unbound you can of course sell them on if you wish.

What if you already learned them thinking you would be able to invent? That doesnt seem fair :(

*Sorry for the misinformation.

#51 fs_regnier7

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:11

So you can sit down with PvP tokens doing nothing ;)

BTW nice update, but level restrictions should be like 1/3rd of lvl required to wear a set (if they have to be per recipe limit) and not a fixed value.

And there may be somewhat too much tokens in game very soon due to large amount given out weekly. I know it's a reward, but shouldn't some rewards be small ;)

not really a need to lessen the total tokens.... just spread them out more. Too heavy for the top few guys.

#52 ripplelady

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:12

Awesome update except for one thing, im reading it all to Ripple and she dos a double take about the recipe levels. Since she bought them ALL in good faitih they could all be made at that time and now cannot use them can she have a refund untill she is high enough and rebuys them then? Please do something like put directly in her bank or something so its not mugged away should you decide that it is only fair.

More often then not, if your send in a ticket reflecting such issues, they are more then willing to comply in my experience.



Hey, I am afraid that we cannot refund the cost of buying the recipe, as they are unbound you can of course sell them on if you wish.



I learned them I cant sell them :(


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#53 Bahamut101

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:13

Awesome update except for one thing, im reading it all to Ripple and she dos a double take about the recipe levels. Since she bought them ALL in good faitih they could all be made at that time and now cannot use them can she have a refund untill she is high enough and rebuys them then? Please do something like put directly in her bank or something so its not mugged away should you decide that it is only fair.

More often then not, if your send in a ticket reflecting such issues, they are more then willing to comply in my experience.



Hey, I am afraid that we cannot refund the cost of buying the recipe, as they are unbound you can of course sell them on if you wish.


Talking bout the recipes that have been learned that you can't sell off

#54 Maehdros

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:14


And there may be somewhat too much tokens in game very soon due to large amount given out weekly. I know it's a reward, but shouldn't some rewards be small ;)

Yeap-now we'll have to many items gained from BH ladder..



You'll see alot more high level EOC players clearing bounties now ;) at least I am guessing so. If they want an item they will jump in the PvP pool.. wait..isnt the bounty board like the kiddie pool? with like..floaties? :P Since now those tops on the ladder are basically there from clearing others,( more often then not players lower level then them) yep, they has mad skillz. lol

#55 evilbry

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:15


And there may be somewhat too much tokens in game very soon due to large amount given out weekly. I know it's a reward, but shouldn't some rewards be small ;)

Yeap-now we'll have to many items gained from BH ladder..



You'll see alot more high level EOC players clearing bounties now ;) at least I am guessing so. If they want an item they will jump in the PvP pool.. wait..isnt the bounty board like the kiddie pool? with like..floaties? :P

ewww floaties!

#56 Xakano

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:17

If you have learnt the recipe, then it is yours forever, we cannot remove it from you. You will eventually level up to the points of being able to invent them...and it is not as if you have to upgrade your recipe slots anyway.

#57 fs_regnier7

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:21



So you can sit down with PvP tokens doing nothing ;)

BTW nice update, but level restrictions should be like 1/3rd of lvl required to wear a set (if they have to be per recipe limit) and not a fixed value.

And there may be somewhat too much tokens in game very soon due to large amount given out weekly. I know it's a reward, but shouldn't some rewards be small ;)

not really a need to lessen the total tokens.... just spread them out more. Too heavy for the top few guys.


Correction.... did not see the boost in PvP rewards. :?

euh... cost for components, or rewards overall.... need to be altered.

#58 fs_evfisher

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:22

Hmmm,with the level restrictions,7 day inactivity and tokens being spread out..it seems more fair for everyone. Nice one hoof.Now we might see alot more players trying to get on the ladder, and also more board activity.


Now if only there was a way to promote off the board PvP. :wink:

Maybe get rid of pvp point transfer on the bounty board?


+1001

#59 watagashi

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:24

Ok thanks for hearing us out at least, I dont think she will ever level to 600 since shes been 160-65 forever now.

#60 Anemie

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 15:25

correct---
-you can make items harder to invent
-you can make sets use more tokens
-you can give less tokens to all on top 50



If it stays this way there will be to many of those items in the game pretty soon..



--and to repeat myself--no rating lost on BB please..


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