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  1. Voted Yes (9 votes [40.91%])

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  2. Voted No (12 votes [54.55%])

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  3. Voted Other reasons or changes (please explain in your post) (1 votes [4.55%])

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#1 Bahamut101

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 23:39

I think it has gotten out of control that you get countered for even completing a bounty now I personally have gotten players threatening to counter me for completing unless I paid them 1 FSP when has the BB turned into punishment for Bounty Hunters now I mean I get countering someone who has started late, quit on a bounty without notified permission, or 100 stam.

I believe to prevent abuse of players actually serious on completing a bounty and not there just to farm rating there should be some limitation that they cannot be bounty for
A) Completing the bounty with 10 stam hits
B) Getting 9 - 10 stam hit attempts incase a person has deflect and you are unfortunate and get your attacks deflected alot or were just a little bit behind another person. (If this could be measure in seconds not just a 2 min period after the first hit that would be better)

Acceptable reasons to Counter Bountying someone cause its more abusive not just clearing

A) Performing less then 9 - 10 stam hit attempts they started late or quit which shows they weren't serious about completing the bounty
B) Performing hits with more then 10 stam
C) A player using gloat taking over a certain amount of rating cause I get using gloat if you are high up on the ladder cause rating is very scarce to get then

I thank everyone who took the time to read this and vote hopefully everyone this gets enough support and attention for HCS to look at

#2 Roan

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 23:44

I like those suggestions :)

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#3 souljahpug

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 23:46

I think it has gotten out of control that you get countered for even completing a bounty now I personally have gotten players threatening to counter me for completing unless I paid them 1 FSP when has the BB turned into punishment for Bounty Hunters now I mean I get countering someone who has started late, quit on a bounty without notified permission, or 100 stam.

I believe to prevent abuse of players actually serious on completing a bounty and not there just to farm rating there should be some limitation that they cannot be bounty for
A) Completing the bounty with 10 stam hits
B) Getting 9 - 10 stam hit attempts incase a person has deflect and you are unfortunate and get your attacks deflected alot or were just a little bit behind another person.

Acceptable reasons to Counter Bountying someone cause its more abusive not just clearing

A) Performing less then 9 - 10 stam hit attempts they started late or quit which shows they weren't serious about completing the bounty
B) Performing hits with more then 10 stam
C) A player using gloat taking over a certain amount of rating cause I get using gloat if you are high up on the ladder cause rating is very scarce to get then

I thank everyone who took the time to read this and vote hopefully everyone this gets enough support and attention for HCS to look at

The same thing happened to me. They try to make me give them the reward.As soon as soon as I logged off I got a bounty placed on me.

#4 kingtyrin

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 23:52

B) Getting 9 - 10 stam hit attempts incase a person has deflect and you are unfortunate and get your attacks deflected alot or were just a little bit behind another person.

This is the sole reason I voted no.

I was boutnied recently whilst online and had 4 people take my bounty all within the first min. I let the two who were 40-50 seconds behind know(I gave the one in second the benefit of the doubt and let them race) The one in third stopped graciously thanking me for saving his time. The other (in dead last) kept going, even after I beat him twice.

My point, Rating farming is still farming, regardless of how fast you are, and deserve countering. 9x ten staminas or not.


What you have to remember is bounty hunting is pvp. Essentially, your being paid to fight someone elses battles for them, and should be open to the same risk anyone else is.

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 23:58

Must agree with KT's argument here. It shows I haven't PvPed in a while... Forget about it :(

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#6 Bahamut101

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 00:05


B) Getting 9 - 10 stam hit attempts incase a person has deflect and you are unfortunate and get your attacks deflected alot or were just a little bit behind another person.

This is the sole reason I voted no.

I was boutnied recently whilst online and had 4 people take my bounty all within the first min. I let the two who were 40-50 seconds behind know(I gave the one in second the benefit of the doubt and let them race) The one in third stopped graciously thanking me for saving his time. The other (in dead last) kept going, even after I beat him twice.

My point, Rating farming is still farming, regardless of how fast you are, and deserve countering. 9x ten staminas or not.


What you have to remember is bounty hunting is pvp. Essentially, your being paid to fight someone elses battles for them, and should be open to the same risk anyone else is.


I was thinking about that but wasn't sure if HCS could measure when someone accept a bounty more in seconds then mins if they can I rather be a much smaller time frame

#7 Bahamut101

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 00:10

I also said you could vote for changing the suggestions not just vote no @.@

#8 Bahamut101

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 00:44

I you look at this way also with the rest of the suggestion you don't really gotta worry about the second reason to not be able to bounty cause if you end up on the BB with all suggestions taken then you done something to deserve to get hit

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:16

I think limiting counter bountying at all sets a really, REALLY bad precedent,and can open the fied to further abuse.

#10 Bahamut101

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:28

I think limiting counter bountying at all sets a really, REALLY bad precedent,and can open the fied to further abuse.


Can you explain why cause all i seen is abuse and a broken system now with the PvP ladder cause of unscrupulous players either selling off bounties on hunters that are on the ladder, purposely bountying a hunter(s) cause they got high PvP rating, or threatening a player that not only payed to take the bounty but to also pay off the target ----- also on a side note in RL when has anyone with a price on their head have the ability to place a bounty on the person hunting for them? I just suggesting a little limitation for peacefully clearing a bounty, anymore then suggested above would be too much limitation

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:33

No need to mess with the bounty board, it serves it purpose well when used by players.

Simple solution to counter bounty's, 100 stam them next time on board. If that does not work, get some friends and take five.

The above is proven to work and really adds a bit of fun to the game

Only problem with BB, is PvP rating exchange set way too high.

#12 Bahamut101

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:48

Idk they base Rating exchange off of stam used in the attacks now so if you only do 10 stam hits you can really only take like 5 rating at a time and already gave out some 5s though you got people like MollDoll who is only playing to help out her husband get higher on the ladder by bountying anyone else on the ladder and I can get SSs from my guildy who was talking with her and told him that

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:56

I think limiting counter bountying at all sets a really, REALLY bad precedent,and can open the fied to further abuse.


Can you explain why cause all i seen is abuse and a broken system now with the PvP ladder cause of unscrupulous players either selling off bounties on hunters that are on the ladder, purposely bountying a hunter(s) cause they got high PvP rating, or threatening a player that not only payed to take the bounty but to also pay off the target ----- also on a side note in RL when has anyone with a price on their head have the ability to place a bounty on the person hunting for them? I just suggesting a little limitation for peacefully clearing a bounty, anymore then suggested above would be too much limitation


Get 20 players to do 9 10 stam hits on someone. Delevels them, but they can't fight back.

#14 Bahamut101

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 02:00

I think limiting counter bountying at all sets a really, REALLY bad precedent,and can open the fied to further abuse.


Can you explain why cause all i seen is abuse and a broken system now with the PvP ladder cause of unscrupulous players either selling off bounties on hunters that are on the ladder, purposely bountying a hunter(s) cause they got high PvP rating, or threatening a player that not only payed to take the bounty but to also pay off the target ----- also on a side note in RL when has anyone with a price on their head have the ability to place a bounty on the person hunting for them? I just suggesting a little limitation for peacefully clearing a bounty, anymore then suggested above would be too much limitation


Get 20 players to do 9 10 stam hits on someone. Delevels them, but they can't fight back.


That isn't a good suggestion yet its more of a base to work off cause yeah by itself that would be a bad limitation but I don't want it to be where you punish the people who actually worked on the bounty to clear it no need to kick them when they are down

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 02:10

That was one example. You think rating farmers are bad now? Wait until they can't get countered.

#16 Kayesha

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 02:14

This is why this is a bad idea.

I agree, I have hit someone 9 times, then they activate deflect, and I hit them 9 more times as they deflect and finally someone else gets teh kill!



#17 Bahamut101

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 02:22

This is why this is a bad idea.

I agree, I have hit someone 9 times, then they activate deflect, and I hit them 9 more times as they deflect and finally someone else gets teh kill!


??? how does it explain its a bad idea and I'm not trying to protect rating farmers though just players have completed a bounty / maybe a few seconds behind completing a bounty like 1 - 30 seconds

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 13:04

Because you can be the first to hit someone but deflect can completely screw that up to where you only get 8 out of 10 hit.. even though you started first. It isn't a completely bad idea, the way you have it set up doesn't work.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:20

one other direction would be to deny pvp rating transfers for secondary accounts set up for primary player's "wife", "daughter", "favorite pet", ect..

starting to notice some of these accounts being used for the sole purpose of pvping low level players and then countering any one that picks up the bounty, whether they clear it with 10 stams or not.

helps keep the "husband" in the ladder by knocking out the competition.

#20 Bahamut101

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 17:29

Because you can be the first to hit someone but deflect can completely screw that up to where you only get 8 out of 10 hit.. even though you started first. It isn't a completely bad idea, the way you have it set up doesn't work.


Note I word it as 9 hit attempts incase a person has deflect but you still attempted the hit you wouldn't be eligible to be bountied


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