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#1 fs_scrogger

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:58

Ugh, Its funny how we have a PvP ladder and yet most of those even on this recent ladder never PvPed before there was a profit! And even more disgusting is the fact that people have their own personal hunters on the board that they have made deals with (ie being paid). What has this game come to, I honestly am losing interest more and more. My favorite aspect of the game was Dancing on the bounty board to see who I can beat and Hitting people to be placed on the board. My last 6 Bounties have been cleared by a lvl 950 (farmer) a lvl 657 ( never PvPed before and no medal) lvl 631 (no medal and never seen him on the board) 266( the only legitimate player to clear me in a long time and handed me my butt on a platter! Loved every second of it.) lvl 457(non PvPer and states in his bio as such) lvl 390 ( Bronze medal but has in bio I do not PvP). I wish HCS could have just left the rewards in the box they came in and only did what people asked for, NOTHING MORE WAS NEEDED! I give up ranting will get me know where.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 01:59

100 stam then when you can :wink:

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 02:01

100 stam then when you can :wink:


I always do:) Thats how I end up on the board in the 1st place :twisted:

#4 fs_gravely

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 02:34

I will say that the ladder is starting to work.

#2 and #3 on the ladder this time were legit.

#5, 6, 8, and 9 are also recognizable names from the PvP community. There's more in the top 15.

It's been so long since the ladder was ANY reflection of pvp skill that this has to be seen as a step in the right direction.

NOTE: Just because I didn't mention other numbers, it doesn't mean they aren't credible, straightforward pvp players - I just can personally vouch for those mentioned as longstanding players who have never been afraid to spend their stam and do damage.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 02:35

I will say that the ladder is starting to work.

#2 and #3 on the ladder this time were legit.

#5, 6, 8, and 9 are also recognizable names from the PvP community. There's more in the top 15.

It's been so long since the ladder was ANY reflection of pvp skill that this has to be seen as a step in the right direction.

NOTE: Just because I didn't mention other numbers, it doesn't mean they aren't credible, straightforward pvp players - I just can personally vouch for those mentioned as longstanding players who have never been afraid to spend their stam and do damage.


I'm sure #1 is legit too, right? :P

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 02:47

I will say that the ladder is starting to work.

#2 and #3 on the ladder this time were legit.

#5, 6, 8, and 9 are also recognizable names from the PvP community. There's more in the top 15.

It's been so long since the ladder was ANY reflection of pvp skill that this has to be seen as a step in the right direction.

NOTE: Just because I didn't mention other numbers, it doesn't mean they aren't credible, straightforward pvp players - I just can personally vouch for those mentioned as longstanding players who have never been afraid to spend their stam and do damage.


From 17 on up I'm happy! it's the majority of the rest that irks me. Congrats again Gravely, You deserved your place that you "EARNED" the right way!

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 03:04

I'm sure #1 is legit too, right? :P


NOTE: Just because I didn't mention other numbers, it doesn't mean they aren't credible, straightforward pvp players - I just can personally vouch for those mentioned as longstanding players who have never been afraid to spend their stam and do damage.



#8 fs_gravely

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 03:05

From 17 on up I'm happy! it's the majority of the rest that irks me. Congrats again Gravely, You deserved your place that you "EARNED" the right way!


Thank you, scrog. It wasn't easy. It isn't perfect yet - I want the ladder to eventually represent those players who are the total engines of destruction in PVP. We're getting there, though :D

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 03:59

It's been so long since the ladder was ANY reflection of pvp skill that this has to be seen as a step in the right direction.

At least it isn't worse. ;)

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 04:10

Ugh, Its funny how we have a PvP ladder and yet most of those even on this recent ladder never PvPed before there was a profit! And even more disgusting is the fact that people have their own personal hunters on the board that they have made deals with (ie being paid). What has this game come to, I honestly am losing interest more and more. My favorite aspect of the game was Dancing on the bounty board to see who I can beat and Hitting people to be placed on the board. My last 6 Bounties have been cleared by a lvl 950 (farmer) a lvl 657 ( never PvPed before and no medal) lvl 631 (no medal and never seen him on the board) 266( the only legitimate player to clear me in a long time and handed me my butt on a platter! Loved every second of it.) lvl 457(non PvPer and states in his bio as such) lvl 390 ( Bronze medal but has in bio I do not PvP). I wish HCS could have just left the rewards in the box they came in and only did what people asked for, NOTHING MORE WAS NEEDED! I give up ranting will get me know where.

Except you using the medal as the basis I agree with you. I dont have my medal. I have no interest in bounty hunting. I can tell you, I did plenty of gold hits during the last update timer off the BB, none less then 100 stamina, and I didnt come close to the ladder. You would think competing with those at my level would count for something :(

They might as well rename it the bounty hunting rating medal and get rid of the transfer off the board, Im tired of player 4x my levels getting what I took from someone my level.

You know the best thing is the 4th person to take your bounty who doesnt stop after you let them know they are late having "I hate farmers" written in their bio.

A great system which scrapped rating and was based on tkp for pvp was suggested, and widely supported yet completely ignored by the cows. God forbid something in this game be balanced :(

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 08:48

They might as well rename it the bounty hunting rating medal and get rid of the transfer off the board, Im tired of player 4x my levels getting what I took from someone my level.

You know the best thing is the 4th person to take your bounty who doesnt stop after you let them know they are late having "I hate farmers" written in their bio.

A great system which scrapped rating and was based on tkp for pvp was suggested, and widely supported yet completely ignored by the cows. God forbid something in this game be balanced :(


Yea... I said it repeatedly - have two ladders, one for in-your-range-PvP and one for bounty hunting. But no, in came worries like "oh we poor high level players would never be able to compete as there's not enough targets"... who gives a damn about a handful of players? The game should be designed for the majority of players...

plus there are always solutions for that - widening attack range even more on higher levels (10 levels on a level 900 player are a tiny relative difference, 200 stat points compared to 18000). And the range could be in fact expanded very radically with gear restrictions when attacking below.

but no, instead we have a cat-dog-cross-of-a-ladder that's up for laughs...

#12 Bleltch

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 10:46

I will say that the ladder is starting to work.

Crap!!! it's still a bounty hunter ladder!!! And rampant with threats, collusion, and agreements. It's worse than it was before the fixing started. :(

#13 fs_gravely

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 13:24

I will say that the ladder is starting to work.

Crap!!! it's still a bounty hunter ladder!!! And rampant with threats, collusion, and agreements. It's worse than it was before the fixing started. :(


And i got my fair share of threats and got farmed more than once.

Look at that ladder, Bleltch.

Tell me there's not more legitimate PvP players on it than there has ever been in years, especially near the top.

#14 Bleltch

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:09

Tell me there's not more legitimate PvP players on it than there has ever been in years, especially near the top.

There's no legitimate pvp players in the top 20 that i see. They're all there because they primarily used bounty hunting to get to the top spots. I diidn't do a single off board pvp hit, and the 3 guild mates of mine in the top 20 did very little to none going by postings in guild chat. And one of the players on the top is a guild ally, we were told specifically not to take his bounty so he wouldn't lose his pvp points.

Now you tell me why calling it the bounty hunter ladder isn't a better fit. Off board pvp is the last thing these top finishers are going to do.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:20

I will say that the ladder is starting to work.

#2 and #3 on the ladder this time were legit.

#5, 6, 8, and 9 are also recognizable names from the PvP community. There's more in the top 15.

It's been so long since the ladder was ANY reflection of pvp skill that this has to be seen as a step in the right direction.

NOTE: Just because I didn't mention other numbers, it doesn't mean they aren't credible, straightforward pvp players - I just can personally vouch for those mentioned as longstanding players who have never been afraid to spend their stam and do damage.


I'm sure #1 is legit too, right? :P

sure legit .. but i dunno why some ppl think they just play right and others not

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:21

I will say that the ladder is starting to work.

Crap!!! it's still a bounty hunter ladder!!! And rampant with threats, collusion, and agreements. It's worse than it was before the fixing started. :(

lol its starting work cuz he won :lol:

#17 fs_cheechong

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:24

gotta agree with bleltch. the ladder is a BH ladder. I know I'm not the leading person to speak on this but just looking at this and watching the ladder. I see tons of "threats", personal BH's and etc. this is ridiculous. I say remove the rewards or like suggested make it like a TKP based system.(I'd say only 100 stam hits get rewarded)

#18 Maehdros

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:31

I will say how funny the system is..Last night i did some random hits. I do an off the board hit..I gain hmm 2 rating for a ten stam.. or 8 for a 100 stam for gold etc. Now, lets say i am posted.. for the ten stam.. cleared.. BAM 30 rating gone...lol HOW is this ladder a reflection of off the board pvp? Or even promote it? and Why the hell would someone trying to climb the ladder ( me and others) want to continue to hit off the board? Ie, guild hits stomps, gold hits, and so on. It's a pain when one has to choose one over the other. trust me =/. Off the board PvP only has an impact when the ladder is first reset..( when everyone has a rush to get points) and then when theres someone high on the ladder in your range to get hit. I can see how grave thinks its getting better, but i also understand bleltch too. Its a bounty hunter ladder, and people avoid direct OFF THE BOARD pvp to stay on it.. which is silly.

#19 Bleltch

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:41

I will say that the ladder is starting to work.

Crap!!! it's still a bounty hunter ladder!!! And rampant with threats, collusion, and agreements. It's worse than it was before the fixing started. :(

lol its starting work cuz he won :lol:

Bullpoop!!! He likes the way it is because he has the advantage to get his precioussss tokens!!! And still the same problem exists that started the damn pvp ladder updates to begin with. A high level bounty hunter parked at the top sucking up the dominance medal points. That's not friggin pvp dominance. BOUNTY HUNTERS HAVE THERE OWN FRIGGIN TOP LIST AND MEDAL. GIVE THE PVP LADDER TO THE PVPERS!!!

edit> sorry for the curse words :(

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 14:45

Bullshit!!! He likes the way it is because he has the advantage to get his precioussss tokens!!! And still the same problem exsists that started the godamn pvp ladder updates to begin with. A high level bounty hunter parked at the top suking up the dominance medal points. That's not friggin pvp dominance. BOUNTY HUNTERS HAVE THERE OWN FRIGGIN TOP LIST AND MEDAL. GIVE THE PVP LADDER TO THE PVPERS!!!



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anyone can see this 'pvp ladder' is just a bounty hunter weekly award,, apart from a few on it there arent many who would of got their points from 100stamming someone


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