What is your role? Are you a PvPer, leveler or Titan Hunter?
#61
fs_kitteh666
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:11
#62
fs_evfisher
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:11
Not really... That's just your vision of it.Arena counts for PvPer.
Even though I manage to break almost any sets in PvP I have no talent for Arena... Two TOTALLY different aspects...
HCS considers it PvP.
#63
fs_oblivion05
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:13
#64
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:16
But it's not what's generaly designed as PvP.
You can tell me that BH and GvG are forms of PvP, that I will go with you as they use the same mechanics.
But otherwise, I won't include Arena in PvP other then by definition
#65
fs_evfisher
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:16
Arena is as a matter of fact, a way of PvP. However, it's VERY wrong to mix the arena with PvP since they both work VERY differently.
Submit a ticket.
#66
fs_evfisher
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:18
Yeah, it's PvP cause it's Player vs Player.
But it's not what's generaly designed as PvP.
You can tell me that BH and GvG are forms of PvP, that I will go with you as they use the same mechanics.
But otherwise, I won't include Arena in PvP other then by definition
I remember in a discussion about opt out that was started by Hoof, that many who were against the option stated specifically that they would go for it if it meant opt out of GvG, arena and BH. So others must consider it PvP also.
#67
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:21
I actually followed that discussion tooI remember in a discussion about opt out that was started by Hoof, that many who were against the option stated specifically that they would go for it if it meant opt out of GvG, arena and BH. So others must consider it PvP also.
I also think that some have proposed that to take away the arena from the levelers posting in favor of the opt-out. Some of them were pretty good at it lol.
#68
fs_evfisher
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:23
I actually followed that discussion tooI remember in a discussion about opt out that was started by Hoof, that many who were against the option stated specifically that they would go for it if it meant opt out of GvG, arena and BH. So others must consider it PvP also.
Some might consider it PvP and that's fine. But I don't.
I also think that some have proposed that to take away the arena from the levelers posting in favor of the opt-out. Some of them were pretty good at it lol.
I just state the facts, as HCS declares them.
#69
fs_oblivion05
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:25
#70
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:28
I disagree. It inflicts damage to my pocketsArena is a way of PvP. I'm just saying that it's wrong to compare the arena to actual PvP as the arena inflicts no damage in any way. And thus the PvP arena and actual PvP should have separate polls.
#71
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:28
Same thing hereArena is a way of PvP. I'm just saying that it's wrong to compare the arena to actual PvP as the arena inflicts no damage in any way. And thus the PvP arena and actual PvP should have separate polls.
And ev, I think we are not really arguing here lol. I know the facts very well as you do so it's all good I think :wink:
#72
fs_evfisher
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:29
Arena is a way of PvP. I'm just saying that it's wrong to compare the arena to actual PvP as the arena inflicts no damage in any way. And thus the PvP arena and actual PvP should have separate polls.
The poll is fine as I see it, because of HCS classification. Not mine, but HCS.
#73
fs_oblivion05
Posted 04 September 2010 - 00:33
I disagree. It inflicts damage to my pockets
Your pockets are inflicted damage by choice.
#74
Posted 04 September 2010 - 02:32
#75
Posted 04 September 2010 - 02:34
#76
Posted 04 September 2010 - 02:38
#77
fs_gravely
Posted 04 September 2010 - 04:47
PvP and Arena are player versus player. They both require large gear pools to be really successful with.
And that's about the end of the similarities.
PVP inflicts direct damage on your opponent, involves theft, and has all sorts of passive abilities involved. Buffs, relics, and LUPs all play a tactical role.
The Arena relies on stat maximization, set formulation, and gear supremacy. In move tourneys, specific strategies are required to thread the needle between wildly variated opponent combinations.
They're two totally different beasts. The vast majority of arena players don't do real PvP, and the vast majority of skill PvP players don't have the first clue at how to be successful in an arena environment. Both playstyles are counter intuitive to each other.
As for this junkball poll, I do everything with the exception of SE hunt. I haven't Titan hunted in a while, but that's because I really see no reason to.
#78
fs_sollimaw
Posted 04 September 2010 - 05:35
I just state the facts, as HCS declares them.
Constantly changing, obscure, and confusing facts.
#79
fs_cobra7781
Posted 07 September 2010 - 14:33
#80
Posted 08 September 2010 - 03:50
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