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#321 kingtyrin

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 23:05

Perhaps an anonymous poll would be good. Some people are afraid to speak up and give their opinion, for fear of being attacked (either via text in the forum or in-game through PvP), and therefore keep to themselves. A poll would allow people to cast a vote without it being known what they voted for. It would also be an easy way to see a quick tally of opinions, rather than having to sift through our spam. ;)

I dont know. I give you that there is alot of spam, but normally knowing the reason behind people voting the way they do is also a good thing. You have to admit, most seek to protect their own interest, and I hope and pray the cows see through such things to some extent, or at least take it into account.

#322 cyrus7

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 23:09

Perhaps an anonymous poll would be good. Some people are afraid to speak up and give their opinion, for fear of being attacked (either via text in the forum or in-game through PvP), and therefore keep to themselves. A poll would allow people to cast a vote without it being known what they voted for. It would also be an easy way to see a quick tally of opinions, rather than having to sift through our spam. ;)

I dont know. I give you that there is alot of spam, but normally knowing the reason behind people voting the way they do is also a good thing. You have to admit, most seek to protect their own interest, and I hope and pray the cows see through such things to some extent, or at least take it into account.

Well poll + thread. ;) That way, there are votes for everyone who cares to cast a vote, as well as reasons for those who are willing to actually speak up.

#323 evilbry

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 23:09

I am not saying a change wasn't needed. I am simply saying a wider view of opinions should have been gained.


Bud, I value your opinion, you know I do but far too many players don't come to voice their opinions. They know the forum is here. Please impress on them that I need input from everyone! Tell them to get their arses in here!



Understand this, the forum is a scary and unwelcome place for many though grim :P

Here's my concerns with how this has proceeded. The new sets were released which was great, but there's not a lot of information out there except from a couple of people who have read the recipe's or made items. The information is really not out there yet to get a good varied opinion. The secrecy is fine as it is part of new gear and sets, but it does hinder things too.

A Front page message might have been an idea, or it might have been too much. Maybe if it had been floated like the mace "We have X stats points to work with, what is the general concensus of where these would like to be placed?" Yes a bunch would have liked damage, but I do think there would have been some interesting ideas covering other aspects of the game.

Take then for example when the changes were made to the mace of the colossus, Some people had value in the initial item and others saw the potential for another item. There was a lot of feedback though because people knew HCS was looking for the feedback and what they were prepared to work with.

Comes down to it though Grim, as I said earlier, by opening yourself up to compromise, you are opening a can of worms. Right now, I don't envy the posititon you are in.

#324 Mister Doom

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 23:12

Please impress on them that I need input from everyone! Tell them to get their arses in here!

You know people who can type with their arses? :shock: :lol:


I can! I can talk out of it too, do it quite often :P

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#325 cyrus7

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 23:13


Please impress on them that I need input from everyone! Tell them to get their arses in here!

You know people who can type with their arses? :shock: :lol:

I can! I can talk out of it too, do it quite often :P

I knew someone would say something like that. ;) Thanks for not letting me down, Mr. Doom. :mrgreen:

#326 Mister Doom

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 23:18

*Takes a bow*

You know me!!! :mrgreen:

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#327 shindrak

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 23:21

Actually yes more opinions from players would be good take this for future in the next batch of sets !

But usually the suggestion from knowledge players better !
Theres many players who support last tweak !

and im sure u will like it guys when u get ur own set...

#328 DaleJunior

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 00:59

Progress. Thank you, Grim.

EDIT: Why is the fourth stat still showing up?


Which set?

BG, This need fix still 4 stats after crafts ..
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Hrm. Checking.

*Edit*

No stats in damage. Refreshed the Cache. Still showing?


Yes Grim, still showing.

#329 DaleJunior

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 01:02

Gotta love win keys huh


Win Key? I earned it. And it still is not an automatic win, it just makes my setups more interesting. Still difficult to win even with them, but I do like them an awful lot.

That's BS dale. You didn't like the item. You came and cried and cried (as you normally do on the forums) till it was changed to a way that was useful to YOU.

This change basically killed the value of the set because of your lack of understanding.

It's disgraceful, but what do you care. It's about you.. This has just shown it again. Thanks Dale, You're a gem!


There was so much potential for a positive change. That's the true shame about all this.


YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY WRONG ON THAT ONE. Please show me where I cried until it was changed. I believe it was OTHERS who cried about it, I was DEFENDING IT all along, so please get your facts straight. Gravely, Regnier7 and others are the ones who CRIED for the change. I was perfectly fine with the item and the set as it was so please do not say that. Please show me. If I begged in the forums anywhere for that item to be changed, I'll send you 25 fsp right now.

In fact, if ANYONE in Fallen Sword can find somewhere in this forum ANYWHERE where I said I did not like the stats on this new item that I created and asked for it to be changed, They will get 25 fsp from me. I never wanted the item changed, but once it was obvious it was GOING to be changed whether I wanted to or not, I started asking questions about it so that I could UNDERSTAND better what was happening.

#330 BigGrim

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 02:01

Comes down to it though Grim, as I said earlier, by opening yourself up to compromise, you are opening a can of worms. Right now, I don't envy the posititon you are in.


This has not been a fun day.

Guys? do me a favour. Keep things civil and maybe gimme something to work with.

#331 Khanate

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 02:11

Perhaps we could have a more formal review template for items?

Usage:

Length of usage:

Proposed tweaks:

Reason for the tweak:

Then by compiling all this information we are able to see if there is at least a decent use out of a item, how it could be tweaked for specific purposes and so on? Direct player feedback lacks structure and it will depend all too much on who is online at the time HCS reads the thread.

#332 kingtyrin

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 02:12

Hey Grim, there is a potion in the arena known as "Potion of double edge" that is KE50. Right now there isnt much interest in it because you can normally get a KE @ 165 for under 50k gp, so its not much of a win. But I had an idea. KE50 is a 5% gain in attack per equipped set, so its really not that bad of a gain if you dont compare it to a higher level, so I was thinking if you increased the duration to something like the horror pot (1000 mins) from the special AH, it may generate some interest in it for offline use or whatnot. Just a thought. That is if you dont plan on pulling such things out entirely :mrgreen:

#333 fs_gravely

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 03:12

Comes down to it though Grim, as I said earlier, by opening yourself up to compromise, you are opening a can of worms. Right now, I don't envy the posititon you are in.


This has not been a fun day.

Guys? do me a favour. Keep things civil and maybe gimme something to work with.


Tell me what you need or want to see to work with, Grim. I've PMed you several times, and gotten no response.

#334 Cat Girl IRL

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 07:31

I liked how the sets were.


I like how the sets are. (I value the few extra HP points over the damage. That is fine.)


I think the situation is fine now.


All I care anymore is to get the promise for HP centric items in the future. :mrgreen:





And come on guys, theres lot of constructive feedback making psycho analysis on personalities and what others want, but could we keep it to the subject? <--- Error lmao.

#335 Cat Girl IRL

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 07:41

And btw if the most of the people giving feedback mostly for their ow interests, but for the majority of the game it would go like this:


Different: :( Can we please have some new HP items to the game, theres only 1. - - - NO! :evil:



Majority: Posted Image Lets get some damage items, theres more than enough, but... - - - Okay. :wink:




Don't let this happen. :P

#336 dragon1234

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 20:37

Can we PLEASE lower the activation rate of Spin Attack?

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NoExercise - Tank - lv 45

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#337 shindrak

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 22:04

Just wondering why 2 pieces sets bonus got stats same as 4 pieces set bonus ?
I just made full set of the new ones and bonus stats just like less than one piece stats!

#338 shindrak

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 22:43

Well ! u say i complain or anything u want i just want to say it! and let others learn from this !
I just invented Iwaos set ! and afetr spending 1000 fsps failes in inventing afew times trying !
*I know its got low rate for inventing and i know i will fail trying*

But after succeed making it this set bonus stats just> 175 attack 91 def and 34 dmg!
well if i know this set like this bonus i wont pay more than 50 fsp for it !
Nuadas set got better stats and just 2 pieces .. u can add with it elite set and soem craps will get u same stats...

well u all know now this sets not worth waste ur money on it!

#339 fs_dinado

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 23:14

I actually feel sorry for you.. that's pretty bad set bonus stat.

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Posted 03 October 2010 - 01:57

I just want to say I really really don't like the chances on this new gear. I tried 4 invents so far and failed all of them. first the machteld boots, failed and lost all resources. Then I tried the chumanas cuirass 3 times in a row and failed 3 times in a row. So that's 4 tries and no succes. Even with all the right buffs and gear the button says 'Average' but i've had Writhing Ward Part C with Below Average with more success than this..

IT IS AWEFULL! I feel ripped off here. (and by the fact that I spend well over 1500 fsp I actually am too.)


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