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#61 EJames2100

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 14:18

Leader Chat is a good step.
Leader Chat working(With FSHelper) would have been a better setp :)

#62 Butter250

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 14:36

Why should HCS have to worry about making everything compatible with the Helper?

#63 EJames2100

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 14:41

Because it has a pretty big player base itself, when choosing between Leader Chat and Helper I'll know what I'd choose.

Sure they don't have too make things work with Helper but there isn't any real problem why they shouldn't.

#64 RJEM

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 14:53

I've been off for a couple of days and return to this. Is this the 'major update' which was going to close the marketplace loopholes and sort out the arena? It doesn't seem to do that.

New structures aren't breathtaking, but at least they don't break anything. I have to say I'm disappointed.

Hoof - you promised the marketplace loopholes would be fixed :(

#65 Hoofmaster

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 15:08

Because it has a pretty big player base itself, when choosing between Leader Chat and Helper I'll know what I'd choose.

Sure they don't have too make things work with Helper but there isn't any real problem why they shouldn't.


It's more that the helper isn't 'aware' of the new type of guild message. I'm sure the helper team will update it as it's just an additional variable that needs to be passed with the guild chat input to tell the game that it is for leaders only :)

#66 fs_c00k13puss

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 15:09


Armor setups have Enhanced Armor, Nullify, Absorb, Sanctuary, Dodge, Force Shield and Dull Edge working in their favor;
Defensive setups only have: Dodge, Constitution, Force Shield, and Flinch working in their favor.


Dull Edge does not work in PvP. Defensive sets also have Nightmare Visage working for them and Last Ditch/Reflection is far more effective in a Defensive set-up vs an Armor set-up.

And as Moonfrost has pointed out there are also quite few more weaknesses to Armor than Def sets



You're right.. I forgot to mention Nightmare visage for defense, but also Terrorize for armor. And as far as Last Ditch.. that works just the same for defense or armor, except that armor seems to have an upper hand there too .if someone can hit you in defense and last ditch kicks in, you have 1 chance to hit back before being hit again - with armor, correct me if I'm wrong, but whoever hits you would have to hit through your armor again, and if they had to get a PS or Crit to 1 hit chances are in favor of armor.

And how does reflection work with defensive setup since there is no damage to reflect? If anything reflection is more useful with armor setups.


And I won't argue that armor set ups have their issues, but that's also because most people invest their level up points in damage. But with DC225 it's just as easy to get a hit on anyone in your level range.

#67 fs_gravely

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 15:22

You're assuming ditch didn't just save the defense set from a 2%, and that the opponent will go right back to missing merrily while the defense set continues to peck.

look, if you mess with PvP for any serious length of time, you'll come to realize that armor is much more vulnerable to out of control activated buff combinations that annihilate it when by rights the armor user should be safe.

Example: if you have 10k armor and I have 2k damage, I can describe at least four different scenarios by which you would lose.

If you have 10k defense and I have 2k attack, there's only two possible scenarios by which you would lose.

#68 fs_blinko37

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 15:31

so were do we find the guild founder chat build

#69 PreyDragon

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 16:52

Hoof will be see these enchancements get added to future Gear/item releases?

#70 fs_boscosuma

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 19:53

Guild Leader Chat

A new section has been added to the Guild Chat which allows the Guild Founder and anyone else in the guild with the appropriate permission to chat privately (ie. guild members without permission cannot see it).

This can be useful when discussing recruiting and other important guild matters.

~ The Fallen Sword Team



Question: Will there be an update to the "Guild Leader Chat" to show when new chat or Mass Messages are sent through it to the other leaders, similar to what the normal chat does now?

#71 fs_dentenabc

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 20:09

Our guild member demiax, discovered a way for leadership chat to work with fshelper.

in FShelper preference log
under log screen preferennces
disable Enhance chat tex entry
just make sure its not checked

and it worked.

#72 fs_nthnclls

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 20:25

Because it has a pretty big player base itself, when choosing between Leader Chat and Helper I'll know what I'd choose.

Sure they don't have too make things work with Helper but there isn't any real problem why they shouldn't.


Shouldn't it be the helper adjusting to the game?

#73 BraveKath

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 22:03

Leader Chat a great improvement and thanks to those that explained how to get it working if you use FSHelper.

I'd like to request as others before me have that we get a Leader Chat alert on the side bar - that would be fabulous!

Liking the upgrades.

#74 fs_regnier7

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 22:42

Because it has a pretty big player base itself, when choosing between Leader Chat and Helper I'll know what I'd choose.

Sure they don't have too make things work with Helper but there isn't any real problem why they shouldn't.

Still doesn't change the fact that helper is merely an addition to the game and IT should adapt to benefial changes, not the other way around.

#75 fs_grimsybaby

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 23:48

great more shit structures for guilds, make new ones not addons.
guild leader chat? never needed one before all its good for is bitching about other people who cant use the leader chat hmph shit update but not many will agree

#76 fs_bigddymojo

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 02:35

I like the new guild leader chat..Excellent idea!! i would like to see a reminder like we do with regular guild chat and log

#77 fs_sollimaw

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 09:20

Can we get a notification popup that there are new messages in leadership chat only for people with permission to see that chat? Right now unless you open it in a new tab and leave it on autorefresh you will never know if someone is posting there.

#78 fs_sollimaw

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 10:42

Can we get a notification popup that there are new messages in leadership chat only for people with permission to see that chat? Right now unless you open it in a new tab and leave it on autorefresh you will never know if someone is posting there.


Ok I can tell you are working on it because I just got a notification for chat, but it doesnt state which one.

People who do not have permission to access leader chat should not get a notice about chatting there though as it seems they are.

#79 fs_tangtop

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 22:51

Helper is fixed for those using the enhance chat text functionality. Please go fetch the new version to get the latest fix.

If HCS does not put in a leader chat notification I will add one, but since it is such a pain to implement, I hope that HCS does it first. This is a hint that you other players should keep bugging HCS to do it :) Get them to do one for the temple at the same time.

#80 fs_ralphied

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 01:11

Also besides the notification it would be nice to see another chat window on the left or right side for leader chat

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