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#21 Khanate

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 18:00

This is about player retention, which coincidentally is good for profits. "Oh no i screwed my toon and I'm forced into buying a reset" doesn't help anyone, anyone who can donate usually donates a ton because the advantages of donating are immense. Semi-forcing them does not necessarily lead to higher long-term profits.

A free reset would be swell and good for long-term player retention.

Anyone who seriously screws up their character in the first 200 levels will probably just abandon it and start over with a new character.

Whether this is considered a "multi-account" is debatable, since they leave their character to die, not coming back to it, not playing 2 characters at once.

Not true..... lol a lot will just put the game down altogether and others will chug along still. But them staying around for long, in any serious way, is questionable


Indeed, since their first donation would have to go towards fixing a mistake. Since they don't know yet how much they will donate (and that's a lot) it becomes a sort of 'pay up or be screwed' situation.

Although there are tutorials everywhere, they are everywhere but where a new player is looking. And that's an unavoidable truth. I certainly screwed my stats and skills despite being somewhat of a min/max'er.

#22 fs_regnier7

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 18:12

My stats were allover until I discovered the forums.... and being told by some guild mates.

Sure, I reset my points at 50, and that wasn't that horrible for me (I was able to make it in game fast enough)

not all will find it so easy. Now it's at 150 FSP.... 30 bucks to fix a simple mistake.

I agree, it's not -needed- to play, but that doesn't make the price right.


I also reset it twice after that, with the new costs. lol .... fun fun fun.

#23 joejim

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 23:05

try playing with all ur level up points in defense :( i was doing great til i started going into the 2hiting levels which made level impossible with the 2+ hitting.

#24 fusionj

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 23:30

My stats were allover until I discovered the forums.... and being told by some guild mates.

Sure, I reset my points at 50, and that wasn't that horrible for me (I was able to make it in game fast enough)

not all will find it so easy. Now it's at 150 FSP.... 30 bucks to fix a simple mistake.

I agree, it's not -needed- to play, but that doesn't make the price right.


I also reset it twice after that, with the new costs. lol .... fun fun fun.


Bumping this because it recently came up in a chat. Reg, you of all people, should understand the other needs for cheaper resets. In addition to the early players that screw up their character, what about the numerous players that jump between game dynamics? Anyone who's done it for an extensive amount of time knows that Damage is not the ideal attribute to have points in for pvp or gvg.

I don't know what was being exploited about this option, but there has to be a better fix than just jacking up the price of the feature. It's pretty ridiculous that it's going to cost me 175 fsp to put all my points back into damage so that I can effectively level for a couple months...and then another 200 to put them back into whatever attribute I decide when I get to my next stopping point.

(I realize this is going to bring those of you that have only ever leveled out of the woodwork with "that's the price"...but you can't honestly think this makes sense)

#25 Mister Doom

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 23:43

Bumping this because it recently came up in a chat. Reg, you of all people, should understand the other needs for cheaper resets. In addition to the early players that screw up their character, what about the numerous players that jump between game dynamics? Anyone who's done it for an extensive amount of time knows that Damage is not the ideal attribute to have points in for pvp or gvg.

I don't know what was being exploited about this option, but there has to be a better fix than just jacking up the price of the feature. It's pretty ridiculous that it's going to cost me 175 fsp to put all my points back into damage so that I can effectively level for a couple months...and then another 200 to put them back into whatever attribute I decide when I get to my next stopping point.

(I realize this is going to bring those of you that have only ever leveled out of the woodwork with "that's the price"...but you can't honestly think this makes sense)


So, you want to make it cheaper so that you can switch stats to maximise your levelling ability and then switch back to go back to pvp? Do you not understand that is the very reason that the upgrade has an increasing price range?

Wanting something because it makes things easier for you doesn't make it 'right' either btw.

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#26 fs_regnier7

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 02:38

So, you want to make it cheaper so that you can switch stats to maximise your levelling ability and then switch back to go back to pvp? Do you not understand that is the very reason that the upgrade has an increasing price range?

Wanting something because it makes things easier for you doesn't make it 'right' either btw.

That is my thinking too, being able to switch stats on a whim is our choice. But do you disagree that the first reset doesn't have to be that expensive?

After that, make is as expensive as now, don't care, but people make mistakes when they first start out, unless they randomly discover the forums and find it in there. lol

#27 Mister Doom

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 03:35

Misplacing a few points when you first start out isn't going to hurt your gameplay very much, if at all. Lowering the price doesn't mean that these players will be any more likely to reset. All it will do is to enabled those that wish to abuse the reset, moving over larger quantities of level up points, to have a much cheaper time of it.

The upgrade is fine as it is.

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#28 fs_philip333

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 04:39

It's good now, if it were to go back 50 fsp and + for each time. I would be paying more than 150

#29 fs_andypearce

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 06:23

A free reset on making level 186 would be appropriate, that's when your mistakes start to really bite you.
And another on hitting level 421, just to celebrate getting through Xinderoth. Oh, better yet, make a free reset the prize you get for the last Xinderoth quest!



xinderoth is nothing compared to the SK quests (required to progress btw) :?


No they aren't ;)

#30 shindrak

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 11:16

I would like to see 'Reset levelup points' Upgrade !i dont want to reset my skill points too with player reset upgrade !

#31 Mister Doom

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 16:37

I would like to see 'Reset levelup points' Upgrade !i dont want to reset my skill points too with player reset upgrade !


You know that the lvl up point reset was combined with the skill reset to avoid people delevelling themseilves to low levels while keeping high level skills, right?

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#32 shindrak

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 16:41

I would like to see 'Reset levelup points' Upgrade !i dont want to reset my skill points too with player reset upgrade !


You know that the lvl up point reset was combined with the skill reset to avoid people delevelling themseilves to low levels while keeping high level skills, right?


yea well they can make newcodes that make casting skills depends on virtual lvl..

for example if ur virtual lvl 899 u cant cast 900 skills.. simple

#33 Mister Doom

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 17:25

Yeah well, they can make new code that makes casting skills dependant on virtual lvl..

For example if your virtual lvl is 899 you cant cast 900 skills.. simple


Thats genius shindrak.. It has however been said before, by me, amongst many others in fact..

I think they should implement this alongside the combined reset anyway tbh. Would make the prestige skill make a lot more sense if pvp'ers actually had to relevel to cast their skills.

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#34 shindrak

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 22:45



Yeah well, they can make new code that makes casting skills dependant on virtual lvl..

For example if your virtual lvl is 899 you cant cast 900 skills.. simple


Thats genius shindrak.. It has however been said before, by me, amongst many others in fact..

I think they should implement this alongside the combined reset anyway tbh. Would make the prestige skill make a lot more sense if pvp'ers actually had to relevel to cast their skills.

well good for u :) atleast i show more players interesting for that...

#35 Mister Doom

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 00:03

Shindrak, your English makes my eyes hurt.

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#36 KingHomer

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 02:22

Why not make one skill reset free until level 100? Most players can do anything they want with points and skills and survive for a while, but anyone who plays for a few months and reaches level 100 without realizing damage is for levelers has been playing from the unabomber's old shack in Montana.

Could be it's own separate upgrade only usable once by players with an actual level under 100. If someone delevels themselves and gets a free reset, well that's their business and I expect the reset is not the main motivation...

#37 Leos3000

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 02:25



Yeah well, they can make new code that makes casting skills dependant on virtual lvl..

For example if your virtual lvl is 899 you cant cast 900 skills.. simple


Thats genius shindrak.. It has however been said before, by me, amongst many others in fact..

I think they should implement this alongside the combined reset anyway tbh. Would make the prestige skill make a lot more sense if pvp'ers actually had to relevel to cast their skills.


glad you guys pay attention as this is already a game feature :shock:

#38 fs_regnier7

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 03:16

glad you guys pay attention as this is already a game feature :shock:

Yep, and apparently they still had to tweak the reset upgrades....

#39 shindrak

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 05:50

Shindrak, your English makes my eyes hurt.

Realy? :( get a vision buff :wink: or i give u my eyes if its not work :P

#40 Mister Doom

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 06:39

Shindrak, your English makes my eyes hurt.

Really? :( Get a vision buff. :wink: Or I can give you my eyes if yours don't work. :P


Fixed. 8)

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