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#1 fs_skulltaker

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 12:51

I am a new FS player who just achieved L20. It is increasingly obvious that the game is balanced around players having buffs from being in a guild (past the first few levels). Fine.

What's NOT fine is the way the non-consensual GvG system interferes with the play experience of new players who aren't abusing the rules by playing multiple accounts.

This has been my experience. I was invited to join a non-GvG oriented guild. Within a day or so of that, GvG guilds realized I was the weak link in my guild, and used outrageously overgeared twinks parked at certain level intervals to attack me seemingly 24/7 and "win" GvG conflicts. This resulted in my gear being constantly broken. I tracked well over 1,000 attacks on me in a 72 hour period.

The players who attacked me generally had full hellforged legendaries, and this is pre-level 20, even pre level 10! The characters in question may have been parked at that level for a very long time, used specifically for the purpose of "winning" GvG conflicts.

As my gold was dwindling at a precipitous rate from repairs, faster than I could make it, I finally felt I had no choice but to drop the guild. And being forced out of my guild does not sit well with me.

I am close to quitting, which I am sure will trouble no one, but I think the situation is a shame as done properly, the GvG system could have made the game much more fun for me, instead of being a deal-breaker.

(Adding insult to injury, I cannot even join a new guild since leaving my old one since there is apparently some ongoing GvG conflict that over 8 hours later still hasn't been resolved. )

#2 fs_gravely

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 12:55

I can definitely understand your frustration. While it's not a final fix, leveling rapidly is the best solution available to you at this time. Done properly you can get past level 75 in about 2 to 3 weeks. After that, things calm down quite a bit.

#3 sweetlou

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 13:37

The GvG system has been broken a very long time. Now that awards were added makes that system worse, especially for players starting to play the game. The PvP system and it's ladder awards aren't much different. Welcome to Fallensword!

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#4 kingtyrin

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 13:42

Several good ideas in this thread to stop such things-
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#5 stormfury3

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 17:39

that is as much your old guilds fault as it is HCS fault.
a good guild would have provided you with decent or better gear to help prevent this ,and in cases like yours where the repairs cost more gold then you can make hunting the guild should of helped you with cost of repairs.

find a better guild ,and level out of the main GvG range.

i'm not going to deny that i'm part of this problem because well i am ,but until HCS changes it i will continue to stay at my current level and GvG there is way to much profits to be made to not do this.

i have de-leveled myself almost 500 levels just for this reason lol

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 17:53

that is as much your old guilds fault as it is HCS fault.
a good guild would have provided you with decent or better gear to help prevent this ,and in cases like yours where the repairs cost more gold then you can make hunting the guild should of helped you with cost of repairs.

find a better guild ,and level out of the main GvG range.


Seriously his guilds fault? How are any of the much smaller guilds that can barely gear themselves supposed to gear new players as well, and help him pay for repairs, if he is being targeted I would bet good money they are to! While you get rich raping all these new players and continue to drive players from the game based on Greed, the game as a whole will lose more players than join. Thanks for helping drive nails into the coffin!

#7 stormfury3

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:00

i'm simply exploiting a flawed system just like many many others do.
i wouldn't be sad in the least if HCS changed it so i could not exploit it anymore ,but until that happens i will continue to do so.
i'm not greedy at all i don't need the fsp from this ,and the main reason i do this is to prove how flawed the system is maybe if enough players complain about it HCS will change it.

also there is far to many smaller guilds players should realize what making a guild involves before they make one.

#8 fs_scrogger

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:08

Every guild starts somewhere, whose to say that one of those small guilds wont one day be one of the tops guilds. The problem with your philosophy and many others is that "oh Im just playing within the mechanics of the game, Its HCS fault that it is the way it is." C'mon thats a joke and to say that somehow you dont need the fsp and your doing it simply to show the flaws! At least be honest like you were in your 1st post. If there were nothing to gain from the flawed system you would not be trying to show the flaw. You would be exploiting another aspect of the game to "your" advantage only. I have found for me helping the new players to be much more rewarding as at some point they will pass me both in level and ability. I have mentored a few players who are now much higher level than me and they return the favor. Trying to show HCS the flaw in the system.....cmon

#9 fs_regnier7

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:16

i'm not greedy at all i don't need the fsp from this ,and the main reason i do this is to prove how flawed the system


*plays the BS card*

i'm not going to deny that i'm part of this problem because well i am ,but until HCS changes it i will continue to stay at my current level and GvG there is way to much profits to be made to not do this.



#10 stormfury3

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:28

i don't need the fsp i have more then i need ,and have nothing to spend it on greed is not why i do it.

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#11 fs_regnier7

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:29

So you dropped 500 levels just to show the flaw in the system? How noble.... I believe you, totally......

#12 Mister Doom

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:30

Whoa, DUDE! Thats a lot of FSP!

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:31

i'm not going to deny that i'm part of this problem because well i am ,but until HCS changes it i will continue to stay at my current level and GvG there is way to much profits to be made to not do this.

i have de-leveled myself almost 500 levels just for this reason lol



Ok, I'll quote it again, with the last bit thrown in there....

#14 stormfury3

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:35

your taking my words out of context.

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:38

The other part of your statement was bashing his guild for not being able to suit him up and pay for all his repairs when the system is too bunked.... that does not help him because his level is always going to be vulnerable to GvG farmers.


All I'm doing is working with what you gave me, nothing more.

#16 Kayesha

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:46

your taking my words out of context.


I am sorry but you are wrong. That is EXACTLY what you said.

#17 stormfury3

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:54

when i said "i have de-leveled myself just for this reason" is was not referring to the fsp made from GvGing... so no that is not what i said.

#18 Kayesha

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:56

That makes no sense because that is exactly what is you said. If you didn't mean it that way doesn't mean thats not exactly what you said. Maybe you should say what you mean next time. :roll:

#19 stormfury3

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 18:59

if you read what i said it's clear that i was referring the system being flawed not the fsp.

#20 Kayesha

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Posted 16 October 2010 - 19:01

That is not clear. Obviously because I am not the only person who read it that way. :roll:


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