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#741 vtpitbull

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 01:47

We can keep throwing stones Ev....but I would assume since you and I had civil chats...you would not come on here and out right lie. Am I wrong?


And after all of that work cutting and pasting you missed the the whole point.

I received no PMs "attempting" to reconcile anything in this instance.


Telling someone to leave our relic immediately or war will be brought to you by WAL and other guilds that we have at our discretion is not attempting to reconcile anything.


Absolutely not Ogrvity. I have stated numerous times in here. It never got to that point. My original offer was never given. None of you were even open to discussing anything at all. That is the point YOU seem to have missed. I tried to open communication....it never got to that. You guys were not interested.

Sorry bud....thats the truth.

#742 fs_stickisgod

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 01:57

51 pages on Relics? This is sad.

Here is how you fix the problem. Take empowering away. Put the relics back to how they were back in the day. Then no one will be mad.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:05

51 pages on Relics? This is sad.

Here is how you fix the problem. Take empowering away. Put the relics back to how they were back in the day. Then no one will be mad.



No. The way you solve the problem is to let the players play the game. If disparaging remarks were made, then they should be reported. Those who made them should be dealt with. Do not threaten an entire guild for using pvp as a way to respond to repeated relic captures. This is a PvP based game. They have master thief, gloat, honor and other things that are directly tied to PvP. Why is it fair that a game admin remove that ability from an entire guild?

#744 fs_gravely

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:06

Most of the last two pages belong in the Alliance and Conflict section.

#745 fs_stickisgod

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:06

I'm shocked someone read what I said and took it seriously. :lol:

#746 fs_gravely

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:09

Every member of the guild has been told not to contact any of you for any reason....things got out of hand on those and for that I am honestly sorry.


^ If threats or trash talking was involved at any point, WaL has no leg to stand on. I hope you realize this.

#747 evilbry

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:09

I'm shocked someone read what I said and took it seriously. :lol:

It's the internet.. Never underestimate the target audience lol

#748 oucho

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:09

can you believe this??????? And they say we didn't give diplomacy a chance!

You can't talk to these people or hasn't anyone noticed?

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:10

Most of the last twenty-nine pages belong in the Alliance and Conflict section.


Fixed.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:11

45 pages of it belong in the garbage bin.... :lol:

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:13

We can keep throwing stones Ev....but I would assume since you and I had civil chats...you would not come on here and out right lie. Am I wrong?


And after all of that work cutting and pasting you missed the the whole point.

I received no PMs "attempting" to reconcile anything in this instance.


Telling someone to leave our relic immediately or war will be brought to you by WAL and other guilds that we have at our discretion is not attempting to reconcile anything.


Absolutely not Ogrvity. I have stated numerous times in here. It never got to that point. My original offer was never given. None of you were even open to discussing anything at all. That is the point YOU seem to have missed. I tried to open communication....it never got to that. You guys were not interested.

Sorry bud....thats the truth.


...All that matters is we are fully willing to deal with what ever HCS decides if they get involved. As I said...hopefully Jinks and your founder can work it out. We are told to hold off....hopefully the ceasefire is not broken by either side while its in discussion.


I think that should pretty much bring our part of this to an end. Jinks and I were trying to peacefully work out a solution that would work for all, not one side telling the other what to do. And since WAL was "fully willing to deal with what ever HCS decides if they get involved", this topic can be left to the general discussion of how HCS looks at relic defense.

#752 fs_ogrvity

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:14

Every member of the guild has been told not to contact any of you for any reason....things got out of hand on those and for that I am honestly sorry.


^ If threats or trash talking was involved at any point, WaL has no leg to stand on. I hope you realize this.


Which is why ev and I have stated all along that there might be more to this than meets the eye...

#753 fs_gravely

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:16

Which is why ev and I have stated all along that there was more to this than meets the eye...


If the log from Pitbull you quoted above is what you're counting as a threat, you and I have two very different ideas of what a 'threat' is...

Further, it was stated, repeatedly, that trash talking is unacceptable. The whole point of a forum is to clearly state ideas and arguments, not to imply hidden meanings and hope people will figure it out.

It's not against acceptable use to state that members of your guild were verbally abused or threatened, btw.

#754 fs_ogrvity

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:17

Which is why ev and I have stated all along that there was more to this than meets the eye...


If the log from Pitbull you quoted above is what you're counting as a threat, you and I have two very different ideas of what a 'threat' is...


Not at all.

#755 oucho

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:18

We can keep throwing stones Ev....but I would assume since you and I had civil chats...you would not come on here and out right lie. Am I wrong?


And after all of that work cutting and pasting you missed the the whole point.

I received no PMs "attempting" to reconcile anything in this instance.


Telling someone to leave our relic immediately or war will be brought to you by WAL and other guilds that we have at our discretion is not attempting to reconcile anything.


Absolutely not Ogrvity. I have stated numerous times in here. It never got to that point. My original offer was never given. None of you were even open to discussing anything at all. That is the point YOU seem to have missed. I tried to open communication....it never got to that. You guys were not interested.

Sorry bud....thats the truth.


Saying nothing sometimes says a lot! You couldn't be bothered with us so just blew it off, til it blew up in your face

#756 Bunnybee

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:21

Nicely laid out mzzery. :)

#757 fs_ogrvity

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:22

Saying nothing sometimes says a lot! You couldn't be bothered with us so just blew it off, til it blew up in your face


And you overlooked VT saying that Jinks and I were talking why? Jinks and I started talking as soon as we knew about it.

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:24

Saying nothing sometimes says a lot! You couldn't be bothered with us so just blew it off, til it blew up in your face


And you overlooked VT saying that Jinks and I were talking why? Jinks and I started talking as soon as we knew about it.


we, or you ?

from what i understand, we reached out to eve first, and were completely ignored

#759 Bunnybee

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:28

Can we PvP within the current confines of game mechanics, or not? Are rules going to be the same for everyone, all the time, or not? I just want some closure to this. Some definitive bovine guidance. If harassment is hitting every hour, then can we please remove that option and put something 'acceptable' in it's place. I just want to know what I can and can not do.

Make that we, as in the FS community. Right now it's appearing to be different, for different people

#760 fs_phyrstormz

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 02:30

Can we PvP within the current confines of game mechanics, or not? Are rules going to be the same for everyone, all the time, or not? I just want some closure to this. Some definitive bovine guidance. If harassment is hitting every hour, then can we please remove that option and put something 'acceptable' in it's place. I just want to know what I can and can not do.


its obvious that the rules are not the same all the time


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