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#341 jsustin212

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:41

You have 6 arena wins.. 5 more than me and I don't consider myself an arena player at all. :roll:

I'm referring to the ones with hundreds/thousands of arena wins and have an auction house full of valuable items and are considered some of the richest players in the game. You arent one of those, sorry dude. lol.


lol im not calling myself an arena player im more for the pvp, i know a lot of ppl that use crap gear and still pvp thats all i was really saying

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#342 fs_buggy

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:41

so how do you figure the structures for pvp? At least before the gear was even or at least close. so basically the only ones who benefit are those at the top of the bracket?

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:42

What i dont like is that any player that is on the ladder , Example: lvl 350, can hit a player lvl 300 and take the rating from him, i suggest we stay with the 10 level range to hit for the pvp rating

Don't get it --you can beat lvl 350 player,,,I believe that brackets are fair enough-IF YOU PvP...


Btw there's a lvl 150 player in my ladder--can someone tell him to go away :)


If you're buffed to the hilt and your opponent is not, they can only count on blind luck to win, despite a 100 levels' difference..maybe not at your range, but from 2-300 onwards, certainly. There's no setup that can't be beaten unbuffed

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:42

... Introducing "The Cheap Shot" ... the new improved way to prove your astounding PvPness ...

18:56 02/Dec/2010
[ Ignore ] You were defeated by XXXXXX in combat. [ View Combat ] [ Reply | Trade | ST | Buff | Attack ]
Gold gain:37,488 Gold stolen:28,116 Prestige gain:10 PvP change:5

... this player is 60 levels ahead of me , buffed to the max and cloaked ... now PvPing has become nerfed and PvP farmers are loving it ... where's the skill ? ... where's the honor ? ...



I agree.. 99 levels is a huge difference in gear and anyone at the bottom of the band is easy pickings.. this seems like a horrible decision..


What would you prefer to see for the lower bands?


HOOF,

I would be very skeptical to listen to suggestions RIGHT NOW when everyone seems so emotionally charged up about the changes.

Please don't quickly change what you have done based on immediate feedback.

Watch the system for a week and see how it settles down and ask for some feedback in an entirely different thread. A place that is a little less "panic stricken".

Nothing is being accomplished in this thread at all.

#345 fs_xvxevilxvx

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:43

... I'd like to see that PvP farming doesn't become the way of PvP ... I think PvP just became a joke in this game ... you've created your own renewed problem ... PvP point and prestige farming ...


Can you explain why you think this please?


HOOF. I love the changes. And im at the bottom of my bracket =) Ive always commended hitting upwards, so this will be fun! One question though...who gets the Dominance gain? Overall PvP leader? Or leader of every bracket....

#346 Hoofmaster

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:44

Why give people a voice if they do not care enough to read the forums? Isn't it like getting people who don't read news or do research to vote for a president they have no idea about???


Because the opinion of all players matter to us :wink:

#347 fs_buggy

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:44

hitting up is no problem, it is the ones who will be hitting down on players who do not have the capability of defending.

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:44

... I'd like to see that PvP farming doesn't become the way of PvP ... I think PvP just became a joke in this game ... you've created your own renewed problem ... PvP point and prestige farming ...


Can you explain why you think this please?


HOOF. I love the changes. And im at the bottom of my bracket =) Ive always commended hitting upwards, so this will be fun! One question though...who gets the Dominance gain? Overall PvP leader? Or leader of every bracket....


It will be the player with the highest PvP Rating in each of the brackets.

#349 Maehdros

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:45

hitting up is no problem, it is the ones who will be hitting down on players who do not have the capability of defending.




they can always bounty ;)

#350 fs_theggold

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:45

Why give people a voice if they do not care enough to read the forums? Isn't it like getting people who don't read news or do research to vote for a president they have no idea about???


Because the opinion of all players matter to us :wink:


It should, or else you loose the players you don't care about.

And I mean, what game only wants forum flammers and trolls?

#351 hisshadow

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:45

... Hoof, the attacker was 60 levels ahead of me ... he was buffed to the max ... and cloaked (not that it matters) ... and he gets rewarded for a guaranteed win ... there is no skill involved ... just a cheap shot ... and the attacker gets rewarded, repeat rewarded ... it's farming ...

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:46

hitting up is no problem, it is the ones who will be hitting down on players who do not have the capability of defending.


Remember you won't lose any xp unless they are within 10 of your Virtual Level.

#353 UrcK

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:46

At Hoof ..

Perhaps 8,4,2,1,1 for 1st through 5th .. this isnt a great reduction but would regulate the Tokens some .. to bring it back to closer to where they were before.

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:46

... Hoof, the attacker was 60 levels ahead of me ... he was buffed to the max ... and cloaked (not that it matters) ... and he gets rewarded for a guaranteed win ... there is no skill involved ... just a cheap shot ... and the attacker gets rewarded, repeat rewarded ... it's farming ...


What about placing a bounty on them?

#355 fs_buggy

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:47

bounty is fine, but where is the competition? my crystal gear wont be repaired threw bounting the player either. i may not lose xp, but my crystal gear will be demolished by players i cant defend against.

#356 celendais

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:48

the TOKENS came as a try to fix the farse that was the dominance medal.

Tokens then corrupted PVP in every aspect. Which is bad for real PVP-ers and for levelers alike.

LOts of fixes and bandaids have been applied just revealing new glitches, wound, scars and bugs . And also revealing serious lack of comprehension from game devs as to what drives diffrenet players in the game.

Now you created mayhem instead of promoting PVP.

Good things in the update:
the level cap and 2 week noob grace period : might get a little less multis winning tokens.
Nerfing gloat.

Bad things:
all the rest.

Without TOKENS that are connected to "rating": no pvp problems whatsoever in game.

Tokens can come from arena, temple, loyalty points, specials section, quests, chest or some new mechanism . But having them connected to PVP rating is never gonna work. Period. So UNCONNECT THEM. Period.

#357 Leos3000

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:48



It is only the top 5 in each PvP Band get PvP Tokens.


yes .. but it is alot more overall tokens coming into the game because the number of ranges .. the amount of tokens was fine before and im very glad to see the lvl ranges .. but the PvP inventables will be coming into the game much faster and ruin the value of these items in a matter of weeks if the tokens arent reduced


What would you prefer for 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc,?


The rewards for them are fine hoof, having a few more tokens come into the game is hardly a bad thing!

However some were suggesting even smaller ranges then 100 which would not be beneficial in anyway as any decent player at the bottom of a range can beat anyone at the top of a 99 level increase 8)

However I am a bit disappointed you acted so fast on taking xp loss away from people losing attacks on the BB, If people want a challenge of taking a higher level player should they not accept the risk it involves? or taking any range, it makes people think more about what they do.

#358 fs_mystraven

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:49

Everything is awesome in this new update, much better than the last update.now to see how it takes. i expect much complaining. dang you just can't plz all of the people all the time. good job FS team :o


LOL! I'm sorry, and no offense, but I can't resist commenting: have you read ANY of the preceding 21 pages? You'll get an idea of "how it's taking"... I don't remember ever seeing so much negative feedback to an update (though one of the most recent ones came close...), so quickly - and from BOTH sides of the PvP/PvE fence!

#359 jsustin212

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:50

The rewards for them are fine hoof, having a few more tokens come into the game is hardly a bad thing!

However some were suggesting even smaller ranges then 100 which would not be beneficial in anyway as any decent player at the bottom of a range can beat anyone at the top of a 99 level increase 8)

However I am a bit disappointed you acted so fast on taking xp loss away from people losing attacks on the BB, If people want a challenge of taking a higher level player should they not accept the risk it involves? or taking any range, it makes people think more about what they do.


+1

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 19:50

... Hoof, the attacker was 60 levels ahead of me ... he was buffed to the max ... and cloaked (not that it matters) ... and he gets rewarded for a guaranteed win ... there is no skill involved ... just a cheap shot ... and the attacker gets rewarded, repeat rewarded ... it's farming ...



Thats not a cheap shot. Ive been hit now by people 90 levels my better and won. Sounds like maybe pvp isnt for you? Im 210. Defending against 290. And im LOVING it. A cheap shot is what is was awile back. Level 400+ hitting you from the bounty board getting pvp rating. THATS a cheap shot...


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