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#41 fs_gravely

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 04:12

I guess my very simple question is this:

I have visited and tried 3 other HCS games.

Without exception, players exclusive to those games (by that I mean players who play only that game or play multiple other HCS games but avoid FS) cannot stand FS.

I don't hold that against them, but by and large it seems that those groups of people suffer from grass is greener syndrome.

But what they - and you - don't seem to realize is that developer intervention isn't always a good thing. The Cows had one of the most fascinating PvP systems I've ever been involved with and took a baseball bat to it. They have completely effed up the arena, are having issues keeping gear progression clean because they tinker with it so much, and have introduced a couple of features recently that they swore - for YEARS - would never exist.

If it were me, looking back, I'd take the FS that existed 6 months ago over our current situation.

In a heartbeat.

So, that simple question again -

Are you sure you know what you're asking for?

#42 fs_theggold

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 04:15

I guess my very simple question is this:

I have visited and tried 3 other HCS games.

Without exception, players exclusive to those games (by that I mean players who play only that game or play multiple other HCS games but avoid FS) cannot stand FS.

I don't hold that against them, but by and large it seems that those groups of people suffer from grass is greener syndrome.

But what they - and you - don't seem to realize is that developer intervention isn't always a good thing. The Cows had one of the most fascinating PvP systems I've ever been involved with and took a baseball bat to it. They have completely effed up the arena, are having issues keeping gear progression clean because they tinker with it so much, and have introduced a couple of features recently that they swore - for YEARS - would never exist.

If it were me, looking back, I'd take the FS that existed 6 months ago over our current situation.

In a heartbeat.

So, that simple question again -

Are you sure you know what you're asking for?


Very good and true point.

#43 fs_bilael

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 04:20

nthnclls, i owe you $5 8)

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 04:29

I guess my very simple question is this:

I have visited and tried 3 other HCS games.

Without exception, players exclusive to those games (by that I mean players who play only that game or play multiple other HCS games but avoid FS) cannot stand FS.

I don't hold that against them, but by and large it seems that those groups of people suffer from grass is greener syndrome.

But what they - and you - don't seem to realize is that developer intervention isn't always a good thing. The Cows had one of the most fascinating PvP systems I've ever been involved with and took a baseball bat to it. They have completely effed up the arena, are having issues keeping gear progression clean because they tinker with it so much, and have introduced a couple of features recently that they swore - for YEARS - would never exist.

If it were me, looking back, I'd take the FS that existed 6 months ago over our current situation.

In a heartbeat.

So, that simple question again -

Are you sure you know what you're asking for?


That is BS. I play both SS2 and FS and don't hate either. Now, SS2 tend to have more of a quester/lvler and less pvp, but most plays both game. and loss of player in SS2 has more to do with poor content creation than anything. 2 year of sublevelling for majority of players really took its toll. all the content now is closing the barn door after all the animals have left.

Also Frankly, I believe pvp in FS was never that great with exception of arena. i have played few PVP only games and most pvp games are much better structured for pvp. FS pvp is very haphazardly put together as if done as afterthought. It did work better before all the token and prestige trading though IMHO. now, all the pvp kiddies are out in force. sigh.

I think the big issue is limited resource allocated for all the game. which means FS gets bulk of it. Limited resource is what is hurting other HCS games. we are hoping that it won't get worse with eldevin. (we shall see) While I can understand cows position of taking care of largest income generator first, but from players point of view. the impression of neglect will eventually cause the players to feel neglected. (whether intended or not)

Don't know the answer in the limited resource environment. hmm.. I really have hated the decline in quality of content in SS2 in recent times. quantity alone does not make good game IMHO.

#45 fs_nthnclls

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 04:38

nthnclls, i owe you $5 8)


:D 8)

#46 fs_bilael

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 04:55

I guess my very simple question is this:

I have visited and tried 3 other HCS games.

Without exception, players exclusive to those games (by that I mean players who play only that game or play multiple other HCS games but avoid FS) cannot stand FS.

I don't hold that against them, but by and large it seems that those groups of people suffer from grass is greener syndrome.

But what they - and you - don't seem to realize is that developer intervention isn't always a good thing. The Cows had one of the most fascinating PvP systems I've ever been involved with and took a baseball bat to it. They have completely effed up the arena, are having issues keeping gear progression clean because they tinker with it so much, and have introduced a couple of features recently that they swore - for YEARS - would never exist.

If it were me, looking back, I'd take the FS that existed 6 months ago over our current situation.

In a heartbeat.

So, that simple question again -

Are you sure you know what you're asking for?


That is BS. I play both SS2 and FS and don't hate either. Now, SS2 tend to have more of a quester/lvler and less pvp, but most plays both game. and loss of player in SS2 has more to do with poor content creation than anything. 2 year of sublevelling for majority of players really took its toll. all the content now is closing the barn door after all the animals have left.

Also Frankly, I believe pvp in FS was never that great with exception of arena. i have played few PVP only games and most pvp games are much better structured for pvp. FS pvp is very haphazardly put together as if done as afterthought. It did work better before all the token and prestige trading though IMHO. now, all the pvp kiddies are out in force. sigh.

I think the big issue is limited resource allocated for all the game. which means FS gets bulk of it. Limited resource is what is hurting other HCS games. we are hoping that it won't get worse with eldevin. (we shall see) While I can understand cows position of taking care of largest income generator first, but from players point of view. the impression of neglect will eventually cause the players to feel neglected. (whether intended or not)

Don't know the answer in the limited resource environment. hmm.. I really have hated the decline in quality of content in SS2 in recent times. quantity alone does not make good game IMHO.



Agreed. I'm not just a Gothadorian but a Sigmarite as well. That game has it's problems as much as Goth and FS. The good thing is that we are trying to celebrate the outstanding work that the dev's have put into it instead of the shortcomings. I urge you FSer's to do the same. It'd make reading this forum so much more agreeable.


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