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#21 Ryebred

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:41

thank you hoof - that would work fine or get rid of it all together... I love the idea of wasting some clever gamers dots though trying to opt out of exp loss after they attack others

#22 Chazz224

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:42

We could tweak the XP Lock so that it will allow xp loss if you make an attack during the current PvP Ladder. What I mean is, it would work as normal, unless you attack another player - if you do this, then your XP could be lost during PvP attacks until the ladder is next reset. How does that sound?



Thank you Hoof, I think that will help greatly actually...

#23 livingsin

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:44

funny how protect XP has been in the game as long as I can remember but now suddenly there is a problem LMFAO

*edit* hoof can we get a poll about this on the home page or something. I see like 5-10 people for it out of how many FS players?

#24 fs_steveram5

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:46

funny how protect XP has been in the game as long as I can remember but now suddenly there is a problem LMFAO


Don`t think you really get what the OP is about.

#25 livingsin

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:47

pretty sure I do. Someone in his ladder XP locked so they dont lose any xp if they lose in pvp. PvP'rs have been using XP locks for a long time and now all of a sudden a few people want it changed and hoof jumps on it.

#26 Chazz224

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:47

ok now I see the problem with pvp protection but really whining about XP lock? if you wanna take XP put them on BB and take levels that way. I've lost over 10 lvls in 1 week due to OFF the bb hits cuz I played the ladder and everybody and their brother 100 stammed me while offline. so YES I locked my xp. isnt that what its there for. ALSO if BB is meant as a punishment use it as such.


*edit* also..I hate leveling



PVP NEEDS to involve " SOME AMOUNT OF RISK" If people can take from me than I wanna be able to take that very same thing right back and away from them... We can go level for level which is fine, and if your worried about being hit and you wanna save your precious level livingsin that is ok... Lock your XP, Go buy your pvp protection ...

.... But don't tell me you wanna protect your self and hit people at the same time..!!! That's just not right nor is that fair... Yeah we have a bb for punishment but as I said when 5 to 10 people lock their xp in your ladder as I've seen... Tell me great one how do I punish them all???

The PVP ladder is about Quality, Skill, not how I can get over and abuse the system and make things work unfairly for my self and the hell with the others...

I also agree with the new PVP Protection and don't feel we even need the Xp locks at all? They are obsolete are they not ???


Had to edit a bit there ... found a typo or two lol sorry

#27 livingsin

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:49

what is BB? RISK! dont say there is no risk. you go on BB you lose 2x the XP so how is that not risk. I'm sorry we wont agree on this but just because you dont feel that there is "enough punishment" already.

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:52

what is BB? RISK! dont say there is no risk. you go on BB you lose 2x the XP so how is that not risk. I'm sorry we wont agree on this but just because you dont feel that there is "enough punishment" already.


If i get hit for a 100stam xp hit i should be able to return the favour without bb.

#29 Kedyn

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:53

I'd rather see the risk be put back into the ladder.. I don't see XP lock as a huge problem as a lot of PVP'ers I've talked to used it before the PVP ladder and the way to punish them is to throw them on the bounty board. At minimum they will lose 20% XP at a time whenever they are cleared.

As for another exploit, open up the XP/gold loss within the range. I'm tired of people getting up on the ladder because they paid people not to bounty them.. or use the line "Mind if I hit you for your rating, I won't take xp/gold, and will pay for repairs".. It's pure abuse and in no way shows PVP. Allow gold loss within the pvp bracket while still allowing you to hit above/below your bracket by the 5/10 levels if you are at the bottom/top of your brackets. Too many "Pvpers" are using this stupid idea of trying to help levelers. It will cause more bounties which will turn into more gold sunk etc.

#30 Chazz224

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:53

what is BB? RISK! dont say there is no risk. you go on BB you lose 2x the XP so how is that not risk. I'm sorry we wont agree on this but just because you dont feel that there is "enough punishment" already.




Yes there is a bounty board... Yup... and yes I can bounty each attack on the hour of course... I won't get the xp that was taken from me though... I won't get the rating from this player either... ? Why cause they were xp locked... cause the only way to get to them was through a bb... and what I have to cover 5 to 10 players cause they are slick???? Nah ... your just another one trying to get over begging the game for a " I WIN button" it seems... This forum is about " FAIRNESS " and locking your XP ... and going around 100 stamming people at NO RISK of losing your own XP is NOT FAIR...

#31 Chazz224

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:54

what is BB? RISK! dont say there is no risk. you go on BB you lose 2x the XP so how is that not risk. I'm sorry we wont agree on this but just because you dont feel that there is "enough punishment" already.


If i get hit for a 100stam xp hit i should be able to return the favour without bb.



Yup !!! +1

#32 Removed22342

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:56

Think the easiest solution is just to remove it completely.

#33 livingsin

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:57

begging for a win button? have you even seen my ladder? its probably one of the most competitive. and no I fight for everything I earn including rating. and yes I have been bountied and deleveled out of my gear AFTER xp lock. so before you go and get personal why dont you look at facts. even ask around my ladder about who and when I hit. online buffed/offline unbuffed doesnt matter to me. and I do it without20% bonus's from empowered relics and without coming into the forums and whining about it.

#34 HazedOne

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 19:58

We could tweak the XP Lock so that it will allow xp loss if you make an attack during the current PvP Ladder. What I mean is, it would work as normal, unless you attack another player - if you do this, then your XP could be lost during PvP attacks until the ladder is next reset. How does that sound?



Sounds good, but the 24 hour PvP protection should be exactly the same as the others, you use is, NO CHANCE WHAT SO EVER for a win on the ladder.

That is the way its working right now?

Or did i miss something?

#35 Maehdros

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 20:02

Get rid of lock, Have pvp protection only protect from xp loss.... gold can still be stolen...



right now we have people locking.. hitting players who aren't locked.. WHO in turn lock their xp... or go to a new bracket.... it' a never ending cycle. And having the xp loss limited to +/- 10 levels in a bracket.. just isn't fair and completely dumb.. Gold AND xp loss through out a bracket. UNLESS a player opts out..

#36 watagashi

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 20:04

I have never used xp protection and never will, levels come and go. Someone who locked theirs doesnt bother me any more than hitting outside the 10 range and taking no exp I was hitting for rating anyway.
What I would like is clarification on protection, does 24 hour actually allow you to remain on ladder? cuz if so thats very wrong.
Anyone with integrity on a ladder want to test this out?

#37 fs_steveram5

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 20:04

Get rid of lock, Have pvp protection only protect from xp loss.... gold can still be stolen...



right now we have people locking.. hitting players who aren't locked.. WHO in turn lock their xp... or go to a new bracket.... it' a never ending cycle. And having the xp loss limited to +/- 10 levels in a bracket.. just isn't fair and completely dumb.. Gold AND xp loss through out a bracket. UNLESS a player opts out..


Well said that man.

#38 Kedyn

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 20:06

Get rid of lock, Have pvp protection only protect from xp loss.... gold can still be stolen...



right now we have people locking.. hitting players who aren't locked.. WHO in turn lock their xp... or go to a new bracket.... it' a never ending cycle. And having the xp loss limited to +/- 10 levels in a bracket.. just isn't fair and completely dumb.. Gold AND xp loss through out a bracket. UNLESS a player opts out..



+1 I can agree with this.. evens things out and doesn't allow "safe" hits anymore. And nothing wrong with being able to steal gold all the time.. also if you are at the upper/lowers of your bracket you should be able to hit those for gold loss +/- 10 levels.

#39 livingsin

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 20:08

I see that no matter what I wont win this arguement and 10-1 odds hoof nerfs xp lock for pvp protection as its more expensive and a better fsp sink as its not permanent. But hoof 1 question for you. What happens to all the fsp people spent on xp locks?

#40 Maehdros

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 20:10

I see that no matter what I wont win this arguement and 10-1 odds hoof nerfs xp lock for pvp protection as its more expensive and a better fsp sink as its not permanent. But hoof 1 question for you. What happens to all the fsp people spent on xp locks?



gone... just like when someone buys stamina to stomp etc...poof!


I;ve locked to se hunt a few times... dont care about the dots.. just liked taking crazy swings at a 900 se LOL


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