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#1 fs_ogrvity

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:05

...for removing the fun from your game for the majority of your player base whether you want to admit it or not (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100393). The bullies with bank now rule the playground. The PvP posters can go on and on about taking levels, hitting back, etc, etc, etc but the only way to respond in the current system is to just sit back and take it. Taking levels means nothing without content to use stam on. If you hit back, you then become a target on and off the bounty board. If you want to "pay" for being the victim, you can compensate individuals to take the earlier discussed levels...which to me makes no sense.

The bounty board is worthless. There is less than 1 page of bounties right now in this new world of PvP, and a bounty that I placed 11 hours ago hasn't even been touched. Anyone want to guess why? There used to be pride in taking bounties and gaining your medal, now you might get attacked for partaking in "a part of the game".

After already being deleveled for placing a single bounty for multiple 100 stam attacks a few days ago, I am about to be deleveled again by the same individual for another single bounty placed this morning. If you follow the PvPers "main argument", the bounty board is a part of the game and should be treated as such...not an excuse to 100 stam away on someone. I awoke this morning to see that I had been 100 stammed a few minutes earlier, so I placed a simple bounty. I then took a road trip to visit some family to come back to this...

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,826,499 Gold gain:2 Gold stolen:2 Prestige gain:10 PvP change:50

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,768,639

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,535,745 Gold gain:2 Gold stolen:2

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,750,947

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,907,920 PvP change:23

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,819,591 Gold gain:1 Gold stolen:1

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,690,367

This is not PvP, it is harassment plain and simple. There is no way to justify wasting 100's and 100's of stam after the initial attack and PvP change to make it anything else. Could I buy PvP protection? Sure. Could I lock my xp? Again, sure. But why would I (or anyone else) donate to a game that is catering to a minority of it's players that just might have deeper pockets.

In my opinion pvp is just on BountyBoard where its show skills...
While the fight btw players in same range... and the target online/buffed...
anything else just silly... steal gold or 100 stam while player not ready for hit ?.....
this is just thieving,farming gold,punishment...

It's classic when your highest level guildmate calls out your actions as "silly" and says it has to be "punishment". I couldn't have said it better myself!

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:16

If the bounty reward is not worth the buffs, time and effort, why should I waste my stamina 'punishing' someone the 'reward' offered is a minimal amount? Make a bounty worth my time and interest and I will click "Accept" more often. Should a bounty be listed for a minimal amount, I will usually look past it. This goes for most levels listed.

I can assure you I am not the only one in this boat.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:19

If the bounty reward is not worth the buffs, time and effort, why should I waste my stamina 'punishing' someone the 'reward' offered is a minimal amount? Make a bounty worth my time and interest and I will click "Accept" more often. Should a bounty be listed for a minimal amount, I will usually look past it. This goes for most levels listed.

I can assure you I am not the only one in this boat.

+1 I'm not gonna risk getting deleveled for a frickin minimum gold bounty.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:20

If the bounty reward is not worth the buffs, time and effort, why should I waste my stamina 'punishing' someone the 'reward' offered is a minimal amount? Make a bounty worth my time and interest and I will click "Accept" more often. Should a bounty be listed for a minimal amount, I will usually look past it. This goes for most levels listed.

I can assure you I am not the only one in this boat.

+1 I'm not gonna risk getting deleveled for a frickin minimum gold bounty.


+2 Although I don't care 'bout delevels, just the reward.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:22

If the bounty reward is not worth the buffs, time and effort, why should I waste my stamina 'punishing' someone the 'reward' offered is a minimal amount? Make a bounty worth my time and interest and I will click "Accept" more often. Should a bounty be listed for a minimal amount, I will usually look past it. This goes for most levels listed.

I can assure you I am not the only one in this boat.

So we should pay more on top of what we already lost for the privilege of being 100 stammed for placing said bounty? If the bounty board still worked in any way, maybe. But as it is there is no incentive to do so.

#6 fs_oblivion05

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:25

So we should pay more on top of what we already lost for the privilege of being 100 stammed for placing said bounty? If the bounty board still worked in any way, maybe. But as it is there is no incentive to do so.


Bounty hunters are generally interested in the rewards alone. If it's not worth it, why should they accept the bounty? If you want more hunters to go for it, make the reward bigger - if you want said person deleveled, gather your friends.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:27

If the bounty reward is not worth the buffs, time and effort, why should I waste my stamina 'punishing' someone the 'reward' offered is a minimal amount? Make a bounty worth my time and interest and I will click "Accept" more often. Should a bounty be listed for a minimal amount, I will usually look past it. This goes for most levels listed.

I can assure you I am not the only one in this boat.

So we should pay more on top of what we already lost for the privilege of being 100 stammed for placing said bounty? If the bounty board still worked in any way, maybe. But as it is there is no incentive to do so.



Have a delevel party, do that enough times and they probably will stop hitting.Me myself I like challenging bounties (depending on my mood ). but im not going to burn a few hundred stam on buffs,and spend some pots etc to clear an EOC player when the reward is only 100k gold.. thats not being selfish..thats being realistic. You have a strong guild behind you... fight back.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:29

If the bounty reward is not worth the buffs, time and effort, why should I waste my stamina 'punishing' someone the 'reward' offered is a minimal amount? Make a bounty worth my time and interest and I will click "Accept" more often. Should a bounty be listed for a minimal amount, I will usually look past it. This goes for most levels listed.

I can assure you I am not the only one in this boat.

So we should pay more on top of what we already lost for the privilege of being 100 stammed for placing said bounty? If the bounty still worked in any way, maybe. But as it is there is no incentive to do so.

A bounty will go untouched because the reward is poor. This is fact and you have found this out. you want them to be 'Punished', then make it worth the Bounty Hunters time.


Think about how many SE's are worthless now for the most part. Their drops, or rewards are't worth the effort. Gone are the days of multiple people offering significant FSP for a drop. There's now no reknowned SE hunters advertising day in day out now. It's not worth the time or effort.


as a side note, the more posts I see where you QQ about this and that, the less inclined I am to accept a bounty you have placed. People have always been honest and forthcoming with positive advice for your 'problems', yet it's easier for you to vent on the forums. Just some food for thought ;)

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sleep deprivation > proof reading :s

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:29

If the bounty reward is not worth the buffs, time and effort, why should I waste my stamina 'punishing' someone the 'reward' offered is a minimal amount? Make a bounty worth my time and interest and I will click "Accept" more often. Should a bounty be listed for a minimal amount, I will usually look past it. This goes for most levels listed.

I can assure you I am not the only one in this boat.

So we should pay more on top of what we already lost for the privilege of being 100 stammed for placing said bounty? If the bounty board still worked in any way, maybe. But as it is there is no incentive to do so.



Have a delevel party, do that enough times and they probably will stop hitting.Me myself I like challenging bounties (depending on my mood ). but im not going to burn a few hundred stam on buffs,and spend some pots etc to clear an EOC player when the reward is only 100k gold.. thats not being selfish..thats being realistic. You have a strong guild behind you... fight back.

I comepletely agree.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:30

If the bounty reward is not worth the buffs, time and effort, why should I waste my stamina 'punishing' someone the 'reward' offered is a minimal amount? Make a bounty worth my time and interest and I will click "Accept" more often. Should a bounty be listed for a minimal amount, I will usually look past it. This goes for most levels listed.

I can assure you I am not the only one in this boat.

So we should pay more on top of what we already lost for the privilege of being 100 stammed for placing said bounty? If the bounty board still worked in any way, maybe. But as it is there is no incentive to do so.




if u can't stand being 100 stammed and loosin EXP an gold use the Opt-Out feature.... Ya it costs fsp but if ur too cheap to pay for a lil delevelment I guess u won't opt out either

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:35

Have a delevel party, do that enough times and they probably will stop hitting...this usually isnt tru..bullys run in groups in this game and since they know u and your guild wont go all in more and more of their "friends" will jump on the wagon....it just the reason most dont pvp in this game dont wanna deal with the drama or non sense that comes along with it

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:44

if u can't stand being 100 stammed and loosin EXP an gold use the Opt-Out feature.... Ya it costs fsp but if ur too cheap to pay for a lil delevelment I guess u won't opt out either

Any option the PvP community gives requires me to dig into my bank account for being the victim of a half dozen 100 stam hits while offline. Again I ask, why donate to a game that caters to the CC bullies??

The BB is a very small part of my issues with FS and I understand why bounty hunters do not want to take minimum bounties. I don't blame you at all. You don't need to justify that.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:46

not being mean but heres a thought....maybe sitting in something other than stam gain set would allow you a better chance at defending making you a less desirable target.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:49

not being mean but heres a thought....maybe sitting in something other than stam gain set would allow you a better chance at defending making you a less desirable target.

Anyone worth 2 cents can beat any offline set I might happen to have on, sorry.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:52

any set can be beaten but you dont hear anyone else complaining about that? again not trying to sound mean but sitting at EOC with a lvl100 epic screams HIT ME if I was up there and pvp'n. remember you guys have limited targets up there so finding an easy one is like a jackpot. just my 2 cents tho.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:55

Have a delevel party, do that enough times and they probably will stop hitting.Me myself I like challenging bounties (depending on my mood ). but im not going to burn a few hundred stam on buffs,and spend some pots etc to clear an EOC player when the reward is only 100k gold.. thats not being selfish..thats being realistic. You have a strong guild behind you... fight back.


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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:59

but im not going to burn a few hundred stam on buffs,and spend some pots etc to clear an EOC player when the reward is only 100k gold...why not arent u into it for the challenge? or u are looking for nice easy target with big reward? :wink:

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:00

any set can be beaten but you dont hear anyone else complaining about that? again not trying to sound mean but sitting at EOC with a lvl100 epic screams HIT ME if I was up there and pvp'n. remember you guys have limited targets up there so finding an easy one is like a jackpot. just my 2 cents tho.

I know many that have issues with the current system, but don't want to speak up and become targets more than they already are. And you can't tell me that after the PvP gain is gone from the attacks that there is any reason to waste 100's of additional stamina other than to harass the target. Sure, I am still "technically" a target but there is nothing to gain from hitting me besides to harass and bully.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:01

now this is what im talking about people cant even voice their opinion without worrying about intimadation that just isnt right...

#20 fs_oblivion05

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:04

now this is what im talking about people cant even voice their opinion without worrying about intimadation that just isnt right...


Aryann, honestly, personally I believe everyone can - and should state their opinions in a constructive way. Which I rarely see, people usually come here and whine, or flame 'bout PvP .. Maybe they should just state their opinions without name calling? Or just not being harsh?


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