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#21 aryann

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:06

i totally agree but as u can see it is not the case people dont wanna post here because they will become targets for certain groups of people....all should b able to give their ideas and opinions without threat

#22 shindrak

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:07

...for removing the fun from your game for the majority of your player base whether you want to admit it or not (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100393). The bullies with bank now rule the playground. The PvP posters can go on and on about taking levels, hitting back, etc, etc, etc but the only way to respond in the current system is to just sit back and take it. Taking levels means nothing without content to use stam on. If you hit back, you then become a target on and off the bounty board. If you want to "pay" for being the victim, you can compensate individuals to take the earlier discussed levels...which to me makes no sense.

The bounty board is worthless. There is less than 1 page of bounties right now in this new world of PvP, and a bounty that I placed 11 hours ago hasn't even been touched. Anyone want to guess why? There used to be pride in taking bounties and gaining your medal, now you might get attacked for partaking in "a part of the game".

After already being deleveled for placing a single bounty for multiple 100 stam attacks a few days ago, I am about to be deleveled again by the same individual for another single bounty placed this morning. If you follow the PvPers "main argument", the bounty board is a part of the game and should be treated as such...not an excuse to 100 stam away on someone. I awoke this morning to see that I had been 100 stammed a few minutes earlier, so I placed a simple bounty. I then took a road trip to visit some family to come back to this...

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,826,499 Gold gain:2 Gold stolen:2 Prestige gain:10 PvP change:50

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,768,639

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,535,745 Gold gain:2 Gold stolen:2

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,750,947

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,907,920 PvP change:23

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,819,591 Gold gain:1 Gold stolen:1

You were defeated by ******** in combat. XP gain:2,690,367

This is not PvP, it is harassment plain and simple. There is no way to justify wasting 100's and 100's of stam after the initial attack and PvP change to make it anything else. Could I buy PvP protection? Sure. Could I lock my xp? Again, sure. But why would I (or anyone else) donate to a game that is catering to a minority of it's players that just might have deeper pockets.

In my opinion pvp is just on BountyBoard where its show skills...
While the fight btw players in same range... and the target online/buffed...
anything else just silly... steal gold or 100 stam while player not ready for hit ?.....
this is just thieving,farming gold,punishment...

It's classic when your highest level guildmate calls out your actions as "silly" and says it has to be "punishment". I couldn't have said it better myself!


I mean for silly its need no skills SO simple...
... And hes maybe just trying to have a record for xp taken from others so he take as much as xp while hes on BB... all players call themselves hardcore/skilled...etc pvpers do that ...
i think u still dunno about this...

#23 aryann

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:09

maybe he should try against other pvpers...weres challenge of hitting a guy in lvl 100 epics i dont understand

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:10

... And hes maybe just trying to have a record for xp taken from others so he take as much as xp while hes on BB...

Where do I find the current holder of this record?

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:11

i totally agree but as u can see it is not the case people dont wanna post here because they will become targets for certain groups of people....all should b able to give their ideas and opinions without threat


I think the reason that they feel threatened by posting on the forums is because they see other people getting hit by stating their opinion on the forums. BUT - what they don't see is why that person got hit. A lot of PvPers get offended by name-calling and/or people being harsh about PvP.

How many times have you seen PvP threads being made where people go all crazy about PvPers?

So, I think that, people that don't like PvP should just constructively state their opinion. They have nothing to worry about if they stay calm.

#26 shindrak

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:13

... And hes maybe just trying to have a record for xp taken from others so he take as much as xp while hes on BB...

Where do I find the current holder of this record?


in his notepad maybe lol

Man u talking about thing like its happen first time !!!

Its too old
So if u feel its annoying u can use one of this >
1. Protection
2. Xp lock
3. fight back
all this part of the game isnt it? :|

#27 aryann

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:14

i may b up there myself but never kept track...i know of one guy thats taken alot and kept track but not sure he still bothers

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:15

but im not going to burn a few hundred stam on buffs,and spend some pots etc to clear an EOC player when the reward is only 100k gold...why not arent u into it for the challenge? or u are looking for nice easy target with big reward? :wink:


Have a delevel party, do that enough times and they probably will stop hitting.Me myself I like challenging bounties (depending on my mood ). but im not going to burn a few hundred stam on buffs,and spend some pots etc to clear an EOC player when the reward is only 100k gold.. thats not being selfish..thats being realistic. You have a strong guild behind you... fight back.



If you are gonna quote me..use the whole quote..not parts of it. thanks. :roll: I've cleared enough bounties in game to be picky when i want to be lol

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:22

... And hes maybe just trying to have a record for xp taken from others so he take as much as xp while hes on BB...

Where do I find the current holder of this record?



The King of Cake? Stang lol

#30 Dark Developer

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:29

Not sure what the impact would be but is a quick suggestion I just came up with.

1. Increase tokens on PvP Ladder.
2. Increase cost of items to purchase tokens with.
3. Earn 1 token per completed bounty.

This way it gives move incentive to do bounties but won't be a major source of PvP tokens if the numbers are done right.

#31 aryann

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:30

might b but he isnt keeping track anymore i guess

#32 shindrak

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:32

Not sure what the impact would be but is a quick suggestion I just came up with.

1. Increase tokens on PvP Ladder.
2. Increase cost of items to purchase tokens with.
3. Earn 1 token per completed bounty.

This way it gives move incentive to do bounties but won't be a major source of PvP tokens if the numbers are done right.


Maybe 1 token each 10 bounties done better?

#33 aryann

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:34

ya 1 token per bounty will b way to high...

#34 fs_ogrvity

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:36

Man u talking about thing like its happen first time !!!

Its too old
So if u feel its annoying u can use one of this >
1. Protection
2. Xp lock
3. fight back
all this part of the game isnt it? :|

Not the first time, and won't be the last...but I feel that it needs to be discussed. It used to be that harrassment was frowned upon by HCS, not anymore. It used to be that bio threats were removed by HCS, now they are almost encouraged. I would love for anyone to come up with a viable response for continued 100 stam attacks that doesn't involve me donating to the game for being the victim...

...no wonder HCS doesn't care about those that do not want any part of PvP.

1. Protection...means donating to HCS.
2. Xp lock...means donating to HCS.
3. fight back...means donating to indirectly to HCS.
(you forgot about the only other choice)
4. Take it...take it again, and again, and again...

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:38

Multiply everything currently by 10 with 1 token per bounty won.

PvP 1st - 50 tokens.
Moo Bank - 20 tokens.
Gwyrd Dragon Hatchling - 200 tokens.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:38

Not the first time, and won't be the last...but I feel that it needs to be discussed. It used to be that harrassment was frowned upon by HCS, not anymore. It used to be that bio threats were removed by HCS, now they are almost encouraged. I would love for anyone to come up with a viable response for continued 100 stam attacks that doesn't involve me donating to the game for being the victim...

...no wonder HCS doesn't care about those that do not want any part of PvP.

1. Protection...means donating to HCS.
2. Xp lock...means donating to HCS.
3. fight back...means donating to indirectly to HCS.
(you forgot about the only other choice)
4. Take it...take it again, and again, and again...


If you feel harassed send in a ticket to HCS or something. Explain your dilemma to them, and they'll help you further. Discussing it in the forums is pretty much pointless because we always keep talking about the same crap over and over.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:40

Multiply everything currently by 10 with 1 token per bounty won.

PvP 1st - 50 tokens.
Moo Bank - 20 tokens.
Gwyrd Dragon Hatchling - 200 tokens.


I am inclined to disagree - tokens belong to PvP and should stay so. Bounty hunters already have rewards.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:42

Multiply everything currently by 10 with 1 token per bounty won.

PvP 1st - 50 tokens.
Moo Bank - 20 tokens.
Gwyrd Dragon Hatchling - 200 tokens.


I am inclined to disagree - tokens belong to PvP and should stay so. Bounty hunters already have rewards.


PvP had rewards before the token system. Rewards were upgraded for more incentive. Why can't the same be done here?

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:43

PvP had rewards before the token system. Rewards were upgraded for more incentive. Why can't the same be done here?


Why would one go for the ladder if they can farm Tokens by raping low level players on the board?

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 02:45

PvP had rewards before the token system. Rewards were upgraded for more incentive. Why can't the same be done here?


Why would one go for the ladder if they can farm Tokens by raping low level players on the board?


Because the ladder would reward them faster. You can choose any multiplier. Multiply it all by 100 if need be.


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