Pvp THREAD!
#1
Posted 04 February 2011 - 23:57
SIDE 1: Whiners
Still whinin about bieng hit in PvP no mater the system inplemented
Side 2: Rating farmers
Like this system because they can hit easy targets and make fast Fsp's
Side 3: Old School Pvpers
Hate the new system because theirs not enough exp loss/gold transfer
also dont like the wanna be pvper on side 2
SOOOOO my solution is quite simple
1. Re-Instate Old pvp system
2. Move tokens from PVP to Bounty Board
3. Edit tokens for amount of bounties completed.
The Whiners can bounty and more people will be trying to do bounties to go for Bounty Tokens so the pvpers will have increased exp loss on minimum bounties.
The rating farmers will have to kill actuall pvpers with buffs and gear to earn their tokens
The Old school pvpers can go back to doing what they do best
Agree Or Not?
#2
Posted 05 February 2011 - 02:00
#3
Posted 05 February 2011 - 03:28
Tokens on the bounty board will lead to high levels taking all bounties, and the rewards.
#4
fs_oblivion05
Posted 05 February 2011 - 03:32
#5
Posted 05 February 2011 - 03:35
Why go back to the old system? Just remove the rewards from the ladder, that solves it all - period.
Have it only for Dominance medal?
#6
fs_oblivion05
Posted 05 February 2011 - 03:36
Why go back to the old system? Just remove the rewards from the ladder, that solves it all - period.
Have it only for Dominance medal?
I'm not interested in the medal, do with it what you like. I wouldn't even mind if they remove it.
I threw out a similar suggestion and was shot down from made up facts such as these:
Tokens on the bounty board will lead to high levels taking all bounties, and the rewards.
How are they "made up"? He's telling the truth. Tokens on the *board is a bad idea, prolly worse than them being on the ladder simply because the higher leveled players will rape all the lower leveled players 24/7 to farm tokens off 'em.
#7
Posted 05 February 2011 - 03:46
How are they "made up"? He's telling the truth. Tokens on the *board is a bad idea, prolly worse than them being on the ladder simply because the higher leveled players will rape all the lower leveled players 24/7 to farm tokens off 'em.
It depends on what a higher level player is considered. Anyone can take a bounty. Just because a level 25 is on the board does not mean a level 1000 will clear it first. I would be more worried about players attacking each other and giving their friends the time the bounty would be posted so they could farm that way. But it is near the same with the PvP Ladder and trading rating anyways.
#8
fs_oblivion05
Posted 05 February 2011 - 03:49
It depends on what a higher level player is considered. Anyone can take a bounty. Just because a level 25 is on the board does not mean a level 1000 will clear it first. I would be more worried about players attacking each other and giving their friends the time the bounty would be posted so they could farm that way. But it is near the same with the PvP Ladder and trading rating anyways.
I don't care if a higher leveled player takes on a level 25 on the *board, I don't even care if they complete it first. What I do care about is that they will be "farming" tokens. Isn't that what we're all against? As you said, people can get on the board on purpose and have friends clear them for tokens. There are so many flaws to having tokens on the board.
#9
Posted 05 February 2011 - 04:02
of course, having them at all is a bad idea but the cows have already said that it won't be changed
#10
Posted 05 February 2011 - 05:28
#11
fs_sigmundr
Posted 05 February 2011 - 19:51
Tokens on the bounty board will lead to high levels taking all bounties, and the rewards.
Agreed. This is exactly what we fought so hard to get away from. Now all levels have a chance to earn tokens.
#12
fs_sigmundr
Posted 05 February 2011 - 19:57
So the way i see this new pvp system (semi-new) their are 3 sides to it
SIDE 1: Whiners
Side 2: Rating farmers
Side 3: Old School Pvpers
I keep hearing people talking about this "Rating Farmers" person but I have never ever once seen this person win any tokens. Not sure about how it works on other band's ladders but on ours you have to fight to win anything against other people who are competing for the ladder. The idea that a "Rating Farmer" can simply tap a bunch of people outside of the XP taking range and ascend to the top of the ladder unchallenged is a MYTH. This never happens. People may try but they do not succeed so I'm not even sure what a Rating Farmer is except for an unsuccessful player of the PvP Ladder. This strategy is simply NOT successful.
It basically boils down to two types:
1. People who want to play the ladder
2. People who don't want to play the ladder
#13
Posted 05 February 2011 - 19:58
It was just a thought.. Maybe another solution ?
Yeah get rid of the stupid token bullcrap, it is an affront to real PvP.
#14
Posted 05 February 2011 - 20:05
It was just a thought.. Maybe another solution ?
Yeah get rid of the stupid token bullcrap, it is an affront to real PvP.
Yep just get rid of them all together
#15
Posted 05 February 2011 - 20:17
#16
fs_sigmundr
Posted 05 February 2011 - 20:32
Yeah get rid of the stupid token bullcrap, it is an affront to real PvP.
I am curious. How many tokens have you won on the ladder?
#17
fs_thorgrun
Posted 05 February 2011 - 20:37
#18
Posted 05 February 2011 - 20:39
Yeah get rid of the stupid token bullcrap, it is an affront to real PvP.
I am curious. How many tokens have you won on the ladder?
I fail to see how the fact that I haven't won a broken system because I don't have the resources to do this fake version of PvP has anything to do with the fact that I do PvP and this system is a piss poor excuse for real PvP. It is set up for farmers plain and simple. Now I realize that if the system was changed back to the way it should be it would harm your income but I don't think I'll lose any sleep over it. :wink: :roll:
#19
Posted 05 February 2011 - 20:43
#20
fs_thorgrun
Posted 05 February 2011 - 20:48
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