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  1. Voted Yes (14 votes [42.42%])

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  2. Voted No (19 votes [57.58%])

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#21 Ptrgriffin

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Posted 06 February 2011 - 23:19

i liked it before brackets.... remove pvp transfer from +/- 20 levels, add exp loss and gold transfer for the +/- 20 levels, remove brackets, make ladder 1 week long and everyone on ladder gets some tokens.

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#22 Tarnos

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 01:46

Absolutely NO! We already see and here many people complaining about being targeted as many are farmed for rating. Making smaller bands would put the target even larger on the backs of players as the available list to be hit would be even smaller. It would seem that you simply can't compete at the level your at and want an easy win handed to you. Level up to be more competitive, problem solved.


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haha :) its not the reason lol..i think this would be just harder and mor peoples could try this :)

#23 fs_debski

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 01:51

I personally like this idea, however I think many people will be opposed to it because your trying to encourage more pvp


i think it would have the opposite effect. with all these new sets coming left and right it makes it harder to pvp. if they were to do this it would actually make some people happy and encourage it more. another way to encourage pvp is if thhey left the ladder as is and made all attacks take gold and exp. there would be alot of people bountied and people would be trying for their medal. now lets get back on topic. this idea would be good but they should make all attacks take exp and gold if they do this. it would increase pvp

edit: when i said it would have the opposite effect i meant it would make alot of people happy because the pvp system is bad enough as it is. plus theres not much pvp anymore. i used to get hit every day about a year ago and now im getting hit once every other week(excluding conflicts)

#24 fs_debski

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 01:55

I think that it should be 25 lvls, but i think it should be that the same persons can't be in the top three more than twice in every 5 resets. plus, i think there should be a 5-24 ladder.


no they shouldnt do that because there would be those level 5's with no more than 30 atk/def/arm/dmg then there would be those level 20's with more than 80/atk/def/arm/dmg. see any problem with this?

#25 fs_kvach

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 02:15

The ladder is good as it is-as sad before-only thing that is missing is XP and gold loss for everyone...
And yes,the rewards should stay. :)

I agree with you completely.
why not keep rewards? cuz it drives people "crazy"... makes no sense. reward for pvping. they reward for leveling, hence newer buffs and more gold gain from critters when you level.

and if you make gold loss for everyone... well, that would be the day i have some real fun :D

#26 evilbry

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 02:17

The ladder is good as it is-as sad before-only thing that is missing is XP and gold loss for everyone...
And yes,the rewards should stay. :)

I agree with you completely.
why not keep rewards? cuz it drives people "crazy"... makes no sense. reward for pvping. they reward for leveling, hence newer buffs and more gold gain from critters when you level.

and if you make gold loss for everyone... well, that would be the day i have some real fun :D

Gold gain is capped at level 300ish

#27 fs_kvach

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 02:21

i gotta get to 300s then.. as much as i stay stuck in my leveling grounds. thanks for the info

#28 fs_sirfinn

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 05:51

Are you trying to eliminate the value of the items that may be invented? Adding more groups will succeed in doing just that. PvP is fine the way it stands. I am a leveler that also spends some time on the ladder as I reach different points in each ladder and don't see the point in adjusting PvP in any way. Top levels of each section of the ladder will always have advantages and everyone has the opportunity to move to those levels. It makes no sense to make any changes other than the gold/xp loss for all attacks as stated by many.

#29 Tarnos

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 06:26

Are you trying to eliminate the value of the items that may be invented? Adding more groups will succeed in doing just that. PvP is fine the way it stands. I am a leveler that also spends some time on the ladder as I reach different points in each ladder and don't see the point in adjusting PvP in any way. Top levels of each section of the ladder will always have advantages and everyone has the opportunity to move to those levels. It makes no sense to make any changes other than the gold/xp loss for all attacks as stated by many.


you got the point...forgot about it :) there would be more pvp points..what means more items :) but hcs could change...like:

1st place=3tokens
2nd=2tokens
3rd=1token :) that would be better :D

#30 Ptrgriffin

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 06:28

Are you trying to eliminate the value of the items that may be invented? Adding more groups will succeed in doing just that. PvP is fine the way it stands. I am a leveler that also spends some time on the ladder as I reach different points in each ladder and don't see the point in adjusting PvP in any way. Top levels of each section of the ladder will always have advantages and everyone has the opportunity to move to those levels. It makes no sense to make any changes other than the gold/xp loss for all attacks as stated by many.


you got the point...forgot about it :) there would be more pvp points..what means more items :) but hcs could change...like:

1st place=3tokens
2nd=2tokens
3rd=1token :) that would be better :D



Nope it wouldn't....

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#31 fs_sirfinn

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 06:48

It would drop the value of the items. It is basic economics. The ladder items have already dropped in value as more are invented. It happens with all inventables. Look at the prices for all items that can be made from components in the arena at this time. All but a select few, have been reduced to about half of their previous values. The same will occur with token items as well. It seems that those in favor of this change are the ones that GvG at lower levels and want the added benefit of being able to further take advantage of lower levels, thus making themselves richer. This change makes little sense in my humble opinion, and it seems that there is definitely not going to be a consensus based on the current sample of 25 (12/13).

#32 KingHomer

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 16:58

Voted no. A 25-level band means players in the middle of the band take xp and gold on nearly all hits... don't tell me some offline players getting farmed will be better off in a narrower band.

The tokens to ladder ratio is pretty good right now, it takes 8 ladder wins (likely 1000's of stam each) to invent a Helhearts set... or a whole lot of lower finishes. I PvP'd for more than two weeks to get the 40 tokens to make a Helhearts set.

And as more pvp sets get into the game, the LE items needed to invent PvP items get rarer, so there are merchanting opportunities on both sides - no need to rush more tokens into the game.

The easy way to really improve it in the existing system would be to widen the hour range of resets or make the reset a truly random time (not on the xx:30 as it is now). The more predictable the reset is... the less like true dominance it is.

Again, take my opinion with a grain of salt... I'm not exactly a pvp'er, I just acted like one for ladder purposes only and I still have the black eye from Cade...

#33 Tarnos

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Posted 07 February 2011 - 19:54

After reading all your comments i think you are right :) its bad idea anyway hehe :)


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