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#341 hansenmv2

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:11

i was warned --- effectively -- by a higher lvl in my guild about db750 scav hunting....... complete waste of my time and 13fsp..... u guys should learn the "new coke" rule...is its not broke - dont fix it.

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:22

i was warned --- effectively -- by a higher lvl in my guild about db750 scav hunting....... complete waste of my time and 13fsp..... u guys should learn the "new coke" rule...is its not broke - dont fix it.


It was broke, heh

Edit - if you were warned, why do it...

#343 BandLaw

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:23

i was warned --- effectively -- by a higher lvl in my guild about db750 scav hunting....... complete waste of my time and 13fsp..... u guys should learn the "new coke" rule...is its not broke - dont fix it.

Edit - if you were warned, why do it...


lol. :lol: :lol:

#344 hansenmv2

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:26

an irrational belief they could cnldnt fk up a rather understood market range...... sometimes 50ks... but also often quite higher.... then they jack to 250ish

#345 centurion

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 02:46

well, you learned a valuable lesson. never underestimate the power of bovine to create a mess :D and listen to your betters. LOL

#346 needgod

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:03

Whats funny, look at the SE kill log.. I player before FI1k was brought in, and it wasn't this low when people used FI175 buff..lol

I say get rid of all FI pots and buffs...complete even playing field....prices will spike.. people will whine either way...

BTW...I used FI with a distil.. the rate was the same as the 800's...

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:14

thanks for rob us in caves!!

#348 dragon1234

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:16

Whats funny, look at the SE kill log.. I player before FI1k was brought in, and it wasn't this low when people used FI175 buff..lol

I say get rid of all FI pots and buffs...complete even playing field....prices will spike.. people will whine either way...

BTW...I used FI with a distil.. the rate was the same as the 800's...


Thats because before the change FI 175 was 175% increase in drop rate. The current increase in drop rate w/ FI 1000 is 100%.

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#349 evilbry

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 03:36

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#350 DaleJunior

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 04:10

Well, I'm not usually one to whine about scavenging (I whine about other things)...BUT...when I spend 100 fsps worth of gold scavenging at 20K per scavenge in the right cave and get not so much as even ONE FI potion (no auto discard was not on), nobody can make me believe that this is "ok", "normal", or "the way that FI was intended to work" on the drop rates in the caves. Sadly, my scavenging career is now over until something changes. R.I.P. Cave Goatman.

#351 BandLaw

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 04:14

Well, I'm not usually one to whine about scavenging (I whine about other things)...BUT...when I spend 100 fsps worth of gold scavenging at 20K per scavenge in the right cave and get not so much as even ONE FI potion (no auto discard was not on), nobody can make me believe that this is "ok", "normal", or "the way that FI was intended to work" on the drop rates in the caves. Sadly, my scavenging career is now over until something changes. R.I.P. Cave Goatman.

Dale - I agree on the scavenging... They adjusted drop rates in the caves down to compensate for overactive FI, so now they need to re-up. (I think they ought to lower the cost a little and up the FI rate a little, sorta meet in the middle... gets more to scavenge thus increasing the number of rolls and increases the drop rate incrementally but not over doing it.)

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 05:06

this issue has more impact on leveling players that have 20 times or more their level in available stamina and are over level 400.


Oh, you mean someone like me? 600+ with 20k+ stam? That good enough for ya?

Judging someone by their max stam and level is ridiculously hilarious. Not everyone spends all their time leveling, this ain't a freakin' leveling-only game, ya know?

What issue? I don't see any issue. FI is working fine. New OVERPOWERED LE items don't always have to flood up in the market and sell for ridiculously cheap. The same thing goes for the highly overpowered potions, period. They supposed to be expensive, they're worth it.

I'm not saying that just 'cause I can afford it all, I'm just feeling that overpowered crap deserve to be expensive. People whining about it makes no sense to me. You ain't gonna go in a shop and whine that a can of Red Bull got 20 cents on it or something. No, you just buy it. ADAPT to the game - so what if EW 1500 becomes more expensive? People will whine for a few weeks, and then shut up to continue playing the game.

FYI - you don't NEED 1500 to hunt, you WANT to hunt with it because you don't want to use CA, or a 2 hit-setup with Wither 350. You can however 1-hit on enough levels without the use of EW 1500.

Just freakin' stop all the god damn whining for god's sake, seriously, the world ain't ending. HCS just made a change. SO WHAT!


alright. so now we can identify the two factions of this argument. one side consists of players that 1. never donated and are happy to see others on a more level playing field and 2. players that have donated so much on upgrades that they really can't see any reason to donate any more.

vs. 1. players that are still trying to build up their characters up and don't also want to pay the cost of a few more bp spaces just to hunt in the most efficient manner and 2. players that participated in what was one of the more successful gold sink in the game and no longer see that as a profitable or enjoyable aspect of the game.

i really hope there's someone in the cows that took business 101 and read that part in chapter 1 about customer service.

#353 Mgh2005

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 06:11

Well, I'm not usually one to whine about scavenging (I whine about other things)...BUT...when I spend 100 fsps worth of gold scavenging at 20K per scavenge in the right cave and get not so much as even ONE FI potion (no auto discard was not on), nobody can make me believe that this is "ok", "normal", or "the way that FI was intended to work" on the drop rates in the caves. Sadly, my scavenging career is now over until something changes. R.I.P. Cave Goatman.



That happened to me already on the first day of event when i used 1200 fsp and what was result is 5 drag rings,6 gloves,3 axes,4 boots,3 shields,5 amulet,5 helm,6 runes,7 armors,5 EW and couple of junks.

Does all that costs 1200 FSP????
i could have easily gotten them from AH for less than 600 fsp.

Such a failure Event. :cry: :cry: :(

#354 tharzill

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 06:28

After just completing a hunt and killing 479 creatures using distil and FI1000 along with RF175 and QF100 and not getting even one quest item (with a minimum of 6 needed...if they all extracted and there were no extras) I think FI needs to be looked at again not only in the caves, but in the realms as well. This is the same set up I normally use and, while not always great results, at least I have been able to complete quests before.

#355 shindrak

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 06:50

Well i guess after fixing FI Scavenging just good for rich players...
(spend more gold get more chance for drop)
Big money get mo money... :wink:

So if u have like 10m and want to use for Scavenging Do NOT expect profit :wink:

#356 Mgh2005

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 07:10

Well i guess after fixing FI Scavenging just good for rich players...
(spend more gold get more chance for drop)
Big money get mo money... :wink:

So if u have like 10m and want to use for Scavenging Do NOT expect profit :wink:


+1.Even with 180 mil,i havent got much.

#357 celendais

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 08:04

this "update" is the worst ever in history. Out of nowhere, no need for it, changes the whole micro and macro econ of game and will make a lot of people quit since a normal hunting session now became 5-10 FSP more expensive. It penalizes the casual player who is the potential donator. Bad bad bad HCS.

and the spine event is a utter joke but there I am not surprised at all since XXXX was involved....

#358 Dark Developer

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 08:12

Let's wait to see if they make the correct changes. HCS please remember that all previous drop rates from the past 4 years have been using the old formula. Don't forget to look at them all!

#359 shindrak

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 08:30

I like FI drop rate with Legendaries/Superelites !! thats how it should be from long time :)
But not also other creature cuz that will make Scavenging aspect Less activitiy

#360 tharzill

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Posted 14 February 2011 - 08:39

It also kills some quests that require drops other than quest items or resources. Also, hunting the lvl 1000 Legendary is going to be next to impossible if you want the set. I do agree that the drop rate on some SEs was a bit too high though.


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