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#301 fs_kaboobi

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 12:49

Why would you want scavs anyway, they have truned it into a pathetic joke.

And look at the se kill log, not one drop.

Great job on the FI fix (cough cough)

Honestly you guys are just laughable

#302 RJEM

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 12:58

Why would you want scavs anyway, they have truned it into a pathetic joke.

And look at the se kill log, not one drop.

Great job on the FI fix (cough cough)

Honestly you guys are just laughable


If you hadn't noticed, scavenging rates are fine! You only have to look at the price of the potions to see that there was no dramatic change. As long as HCS put an appropriate drop rate on the legendary creatures there is no reason not to have events.

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 13:13

Why would you want scavs anyway, they have truned it into a pathetic joke.

And look at the se kill log, not one drop.

Great job on the FI fix (cough cough)

Honestly you guys are just laughable


If you hadn't noticed, scavenging rates are fine! You only have to look at the price of the potions to see that there was no dramatic change. As long as HCS put an appropriate drop rate on the legendary creatures there is no reason not to have events.


Fine with you maybe mate not with me. EW were selling at 10 fsp before the change and now 15 minimum, the few times i have tried i wasnt getting an EW for 20 fsp spent. But im sure its me doing something wrong - . To me the caves should have the highest drop rates, then a lower one for SE's and lower again for LE events.

#304 RJEM

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 13:23

Why would you want scavs anyway, they have truned it into a pathetic joke.

And look at the se kill log, not one drop.

Great job on the FI fix (cough cough)

Honestly you guys are just laughable


If you hadn't noticed, scavenging rates are fine! You only have to look at the price of the potions to see that there was no dramatic change. As long as HCS put an appropriate drop rate on the legendary creatures there is no reason not to have events.


Fine with you maybe mate not with me. EW were selling at 10 fsp before the change and now 15 minimum, the few times i have tried i wasnt getting an EW for 20 fsp spent. But im sure its me doing something wrong - . To me the caves should have the highest drop rates, then a lower one for SE's and lower again for LE events.


I've hunted 3 times since the changes and paid 14 each time.

#305 dowuones

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 13:32

ok, maybe EW drop rate maybe is fine... now there are only other 9,648 Items :wink:

#306 yodamus

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 14:10

i see no probelm with the scavenging rate...the probelm it with the se drops...really really bad..and the elite drops for quests...bad...those need to be raised just slightly....se drops should be fairly hard to get..but not near impossible as it is right now..and the elites..pleeeease fix the elites..makes for very disheartning quests..the way it is now...

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 20:38

I don't know is this topic the right place for my post or should I make a new one...

Anyhow, I think something is very wrong in the caves...

I've been scavenging for the last few days, for potions (mainly for ew 1500), with little or no luck...

Overall, I have lost about 250 FSPs (much more if I would count funds from potions I've sold in the meanwhile)

I've tried everything I've heard it may increase luck, different timings, multiscavenging, changing amount of gold, single scavenging, and nothing helped...

Last time, I have thrown my last 55 FSPs and got no EW 1500 potion at all... At the same time, my friend whom I won't name at the moment got 10ish EW's for the similar amount of FSP invested... We had the same buffs, just FI1000 and Reckoning 175...

Differences are that he has donated much more than I did, and he had never criticized HCS of forums like I did many times...

I refuse to believe that luck and lousy RNG have that much influence, I think the whole thing is somehow a scum.

Maybe RJEM could run a few tests about this...

#308 dowuones

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 21:02

Differences are that he has donated much more than I did, and he had never criticized HCS of forums like I did many times...

If that is the problem, i want to add that all HCSs are great persons, the best developers of the world, they deserve a statue, and they all should be beatified... that said... *goes to scavenge* :D

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 23:06

I don't know is this topic the right place for my post or should I make a new one...

Anyhow, I think something is very wrong in the caves...

I've been scavenging for the last few days, for potions (mainly for ew 1500), with little or no luck...

Overall, I have lost about 250 FSPs (much more if I would count funds from potions I've sold in the meanwhile)

I've tried everything I've heard it may increase luck, different timings, multiscavenging, changing amount of gold, single scavenging, and nothing helped...

Last time, I have thrown my last 55 FSPs and got no EW 1500 potion at all... At the same time, my friend whom I won't name at the moment got 10ish EW's for the similar amount of FSP invested... We had the same buffs, just FI1000 and Reckoning 175...

Differences are that he has donated much more than I did, and he had never criticized HCS of forums like I did many times...

I refuse to believe that luck and lousy RNG have that much influence, I think the whole thing is somehow a scum.

Maybe RJEM could run a few tests about this...


occam.

#310 fs_kaboobi

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 08:06

I don't know is this topic the right place for my post or should I make a new one...

Anyhow, I think something is very wrong in the caves...

I've been scavenging for the last few days, for potions (mainly for ew 1500), with little or no luck...

Overall, I have lost about 250 FSPs (much more if I would count funds from potions I've sold in the meanwhile)

I've tried everything I've heard it may increase luck, different timings, multiscavenging, changing amount of gold, single scavenging, and nothing helped...

Last time, I have thrown my last 55 FSPs and got no EW 1500 potion at all... At the same time, my friend whom I won't name at the moment got 10ish EW's for the similar amount of FSP invested... We had the same buffs, just FI1000 and Reckoning 175...

Differences are that he has donated much more than I did, and he had never criticized HCS of forums like I did many times...

I refuse to believe that luck and lousy RNG have that much influence, I think the whole thing is somehow a scum.

Maybe RJEM could run a few tests about this...


I've heard many people say this about scav's, luck in the arena (2% hit/misses), luck with inventing...etc.. etc..

Never be able to test it properly (especially the "criticizing in the forum" part...maybe donators vs non donators is possible)

But really whats the point, even if it were true the devs will never acknowledge it..end of story.

I love a conspiracy theory as much as the next bloke, but no the Cows didn't shoot JFK :D

#311 doogonzee

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:52

I've heard many people say this about scav's, luck in the arena (2% hit/misses), luck with inventing...etc.. etc..

Never be able to test it properly (especially the "criticizing in the forum" part...maybe donators vs non donators is possible)

But really whats the point, even if it were true the devs will never acknowledge it..end of story.

I love a conspiracy theory as much as the next bloke, but no the Cows didn't shoot JFK :D


I agree... I remember what happened when Fat Man was released in the caves... friday and saturday almost no drops at all, and on the sunday about 10x more... And even if it was so obvious, they didn't want to admit they made the changes

If there's no conspiracy, then one thing is for certain, their RNG is broken

And about conspiracy... It's a known fact cows did help some players in the past to get unfair advantage... remember taw******* ?

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 14:18

I've heard many people say this about scav's, luck in the arena (2% hit/misses), luck with inventing...etc.. etc..

Never be able to test it properly (especially the "criticizing in the forum" part...maybe donators vs non donators is possible)

But really whats the point, even if it were true the devs will never acknowledge it..end of story.

I love a conspiracy theory as much as the next bloke, but no the Cows didn't shoot JFK :D


I agree... I remember what happened when Fat Man was released in the caves... friday and saturday almost no drops at all, and on the sunday about 10x more... And even if it was so obvious, they didn't want to admit they made the changes

If there's no conspiracy, then one thing is for certain, their RNG is broken

And about conspiracy... It's a known fact cows did help some players in the past to get unfair advantage... remember taw******* ?


The fat man thing was really, REALLY obvious. What you're saying isn't. Again, Occam. The most likely explanations are that you got unlucky or the RNG's boinked. Probably a little of both. As for the tt thing (I assume you're talking about the titans), that was blown WAY out of proportion by whiney people who didn't like admitting that someone else was better than them.

The donator/non-donator line simply doesn't make sense, and it would be too much work to code scavenging rates on a per-person basis.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 11:21

i just killed 1 Cursed Samira and don't get why people are going nuts for the helm it dropped sure the drop rate can't have changed that much from what you had it at before

i have not seen the entire thread so don't know sorry


Congratulations on the drop. The rate is verifiably 5.5 times lower than it was before if you were using FI1000 - but you still have a reasonable shot at getting one!

Keep hunting :)

#314 fs_c00k13puss

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 17:45

guess we're still waiting on a fix?

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 17:58

I must say the find item change has got alot more impact than I assumed.

So far killed about 400 commoncreatures to get a recipedrop which I need for a quest, but so far none found. Had find item running, in overal of all those kills I also only got about 5 common drops...

#316 RJEM

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 18:12

I must say the find item change has got alot more impact than I assumed.

So far killed about 400 commoncreatures to get a recipedrop which I need for a quest, but so far none found. Had find item running, in overal of all those kills I also only got about 5 common drops...


Aren't the recipes usually quest drops? I know the feather for that level is - but the recipe is missing from the guide so I can't confirm.

If it is then QF should find it on average every 4 tries or so.

Edit, just read your other post - so ignore the QF bit :(

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 20:43

I must say the find item change has got alot more impact than I assumed.

So far killed about 400 commoncreatures to get a recipedrop which I need for a quest, but so far none found. Had find item running, in overal of all those kills I also only got about 5 common drops...


Aren't the recipes usually quest drops? I know the feather for that level is - but the recipe is missing from the guide so I can't confirm.

If it is then QF should find it on average every 4 tries or so.

Edit, just read your other post - so ignore the QF bit :(


i've had all the other drops in high amounts, the only thing that doesn't want to drop is the recipe. So I guess bad luck, downside it's a chain quest...

#318 RJEM

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 23:47

I must say the find item change has got alot more impact than I assumed.

So far killed about 400 commoncreatures to get a recipedrop which I need for a quest, but so far none found. Had find item running, in overal of all those kills I also only got about 5 common drops...


Aren't the recipes usually quest drops? I know the feather for that level is - but the recipe is missing from the guide so I can't confirm.

If it is then QF should find it on average every 4 tries or so.

Edit, just read your other post - so ignore the QF bit :(


i've had all the other drops in high amounts, the only thing that doesn't want to drop is the recipe. So I guess bad luck, downside it's a chain quest...


Sounds like bad design to me - if it's a recipe for a quest I would stronly suggest it be a quest item, unless for some reason you can't 'learn' quest items in which case the recipe should drop a lot more often than the other pieces.

There is a limit to how long people want to spend getting something as trivial as a recipe. I wish you good luck!

#319 evilbry

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 23:48

I must say the find item change has got alot more impact than I assumed.

So far killed about 400 commoncreatures to get a recipedrop which I need for a quest, but so far none found. Had find item running, in overal of all those kills I also only got about 5 common drops...


Aren't the recipes usually quest drops? I know the feather for that level is - but the recipe is missing from the guide so I can't confirm.

If it is then QF should find it on average every 4 tries or so.

Edit, just read your other post - so ignore the QF bit :(


i've had all the other drops in high amounts, the only thing that doesn't want to drop is the recipe. So I guess bad luck, downside it's a chain quest...

welcome to karthak :)

#320 tharzill

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 00:09

welcome to karthak :)


Yep! Karthak can be a pain! I had to sub level in order to try and get a couple of quest items (gained a full level plus some on one) Have fun! :)


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