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#321 fs_anaflaxya

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 01:27

As far as the proposed 'improvement' to anti deflect buff: If deflect is deactivated when anti-deflect is cast, what's to stop players from casting anti-deflect to remove deflect on a target?

#322 fs_commiedevo

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 01:28

As far as the proposed 'improvement' to anti deflect buff: If deflect is deactivated when anti-deflect is cast, what's to stop players from casting anti-deflect to remove deflect on a target?


The answer to all these questions will always be spell-blocking in the preferences section.

#323 fs_andypearce

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 02:15

No no I know, I just meant that wait for new content doesn't sound promising


New content is on the way, worry not.


Woop, thanks Grim

#324 BlackSun

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 04:09


I dont care about the buff and won't likely use it even though I abhor PvP, but saying that there are "NUMEROUS protections for levelers" is a bit disingenuous. Yes you can spend a fortune in FSP to gain some protection but there is no "protection" there for the vast majority of players, who cannot or will not spend that much.

Also there is no opt-out of PvP - if there were, I'd have taken it a long time ago

Oh and I'd like game testers too - of all persuasions, since I dont see a single useful leveling buff here until level 1200.


Well, since you're having trouble with the protections, let me list three that work really well and cost nothing for you:

Deflect
Not hitting people and thereby not earning rating
Putting your gold in your bank or turning it into FSPs

Those 3 seem pretty rock-solid to me. Let me know if you have any issues after implementing all of them :)

PS: Since you are sitting with half a million gold out, I think starting with point 3 might help in future endeavors.


In Miks defense, things work a bit differently at EOC than at for the rest of the folks. There arent that many people there, players are bored between content releases, and PvP ladder is something challenging they can compete in anytime. Everyone at EOC gets hit at sometime or another, doesnt matter if you have 100 gold or 10 million, have a high rating or low, or even have deflect up.

#325 arichey22

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 04:12

Off topic again? could someone point me in the right direction for this game INNOVATION suggestion Box. lol. where it never goes away. and if a person has a great suggestion that HCS decides to use they get rewarded for the IDEA.
-This came too me because of the Toyota comercials of what you could do with there technology. I would like this for the game. We all play it and have a great insight to it.

#326 Windbattle

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 04:53

For high level buffs I'm not really that impressed to be honest. I was expecting some buffs that I'm excited to have and make a goal towards or start paying for again until I reach them myself. (usually buff myself) But all these buffs aside from like 2-3 just seem to be buffs that help, sure.. but not ones that you really "need". Feels like most these buffs should have come sooner in the skill "tree". Maybe added so that lower levels can enjoy casting new buffs as well?

However I do appreciate the work done to add these new buffs to the game & look forward to more new changes.


Couldn't agree more. However, what would have been better to add?

Also, you would have a ton of people complaining that the buffs are "overpowered" if they were that essential. The recourse would be dismissal of the buff or a much lower activation than would be worth the cost of the buff.

#327 fs_deadlystrk

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 05:11

i've noticed you changed Bt and stun picture.. nice work on those :) any plans for more visual changes?


FORN is going to be updating many of the other skill icons next week hopefully :)


very nice you forgot to add them to the tree though :)

#328 mikkyld

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 05:19


I dont care about the buff and won't likely use it even though I abhor PvP, but saying that there are "NUMEROUS protections for levelers" is a bit disingenuous. Yes you can spend a fortune in FSP to gain some protection but there is no "protection" there for the vast majority of players, who cannot or will not spend that much.

Also there is no opt-out of PvP - if there were, I'd have taken it a long time ago

Oh and I'd like game testers too - of all persuasions, since I dont see a single useful leveling buff here until level 1200.


Well, since you're having trouble with the protections, let me list three that work really well and cost nothing for you:

Deflect
Not hitting people and thereby not earning rating
Putting your gold in your bank or turning it into FSPs

Those 3 seem pretty rock-solid to me. Let me know if you have any issues after implementing all of them :)

PS: Since you are sitting with half a million gold out, I think starting with point 3 might help in future endeavors.



None of the things you mention are protection per se - just a strategy designed to keep you less likely to be hit. None of them stop you from being hit and none of them stop you from being defeated.

Oh and I do all quite well, thank you - let me know if you have any issues growing up :)

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 06:14

Anti-Deflect - Tweak it so it nullifies the user's deflect and it might be alright.


I like that. I'll mention that to Hoofmaster.


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#330 KitiaraLi

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 06:23

Also there is no opt-out of PvP - if there were, I'd have taken it a long time ago


Erhm ... so.. you for some unknown reason, are the only player in the game, who doesn't have these options on your Upgrades page ?

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#331 mikkyld

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 06:37


Also there is no opt-out of PvP - if there were, I'd have taken it a long time ago


Erhm ... so.. you for some unknown reason, are the only player in the game, who doesn't have these options on your Upgrades page ?

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and you, for some unknown reason, are the only player in the game incapable of reading everything you are commenting on?

Erhm... first it isn't a permanent opt out - it is a temporary measure and second it is ridiculously expensive but thanks for stopping by.

#332 KitiaraLi

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 06:43

Erhm... first it isn't a permanent opt out - it is a temporary measure and second it is ridiculously expensive but thanks for stopping by.


LOL so aggressive and angry :lol: Someone needs a hug?

You statement was, and still is "Also there is no opt-out of PvP - if there were, I'd have taken it a long time ago" - I simply commented, that there is. There is also the other opt out, which may be good for your temper; Simply stop playing the game.

But yes, the upgrade opt out is expensive, as one should expect. In my book, a few FSP is hardly enough for cutting away a vast part of a game, but it seems to please plenty of players, who would rather do that, than admit they picked the wrong game to play to begin with. This is, and has always been a game with PvP. Said it very clearly in the original description, and it has been said numerous times by the moo moos.
Don't like it? Buy the opt out, or opt out entirely.

There you go, now I also commented on your "Yes you can spend a fortune in FSP to gain some protection but there is no "protection" there for the vast majority of players, who cannot or will not spend that much." comment :) Feel better?

Oh, and thank you for stopping by as well.

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#333 evilbry

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 06:47


Erhm... first it isn't a permanent opt out - it is a temporary measure and second it is ridiculously expensive but thanks for stopping by.


LOL so aggressive and angry :lol: Someone needs a hug?

You statement was, and still is "Also there is no opt-out of PvP - if there were, I'd have taken it a long time ago" - I simply commented, that there is. There is also the other opt out, which may be good for your temper; Simply stop playing the game.

But yes, the upgrade opt out is expensive, as one should expect. In my book, a few FSP is hardly enough for cutting away a vast part of a game, but it seems to please plenty of players, who would rather do that, than admit they picked the wrong game to play to begin with. This is, and has always been a game with PvP. Said it very clearly in the original description, and it has been said numerous times by the moo moos.
Don't like it? Buy the opt out, or opt out entirely.

Oh, and thank you for stopping by as well.

<3 kit

I'll be up there with you shortly to share the lurve :)

#334 KitiaraLi

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 06:55

<3 kit

I'll be up there with you shortly to share the lurve :)


I'll be make sure to keep a lookout for you.. you could also just tell me when you'll be hunting, so I can check if you have a TON of gol.... erhm.. need buffs, yes :P

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 06:55

Anti-Deflect - Tweak it so it nullifies the user's deflect and it might be alright.


I like that. I'll mention that to Hoofmaster.


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#336 Mzzery

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 06:57


<3 kit

I'll be up there with you shortly to share the lurve :)


I'll be make sure to keep a lookout for you.. you could also just tell me when you'll be hunting, so I can check if you have a TON of gol.... erhm.. need buffs, yes :P

You should take Kit up on her offer, evilbry.... she is always so helpful :)

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#337 fs_ando

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 07:04

Thank you grim.

I've seen multiple posts in this thread about a partial/complete rework of the skill ladder. The rework would distribute the skills more evenly - such as adding to the 3 skills we get at level 600 ... would also be based more on skill trees, as you have already noted down. Any consideration on this?

Thanks,

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At this point, there is no redistribution considered.


In that case, please take it into consideration :) Put it down on your big to-do list. The skill trees really need reworking, and dependencies added - for reasons already stated. Thank you.

#338 fs_commiedevo

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 07:26

Erhm... first it isn't a permanent opt out - it is a temporary measure and second it is ridiculously expensive but thanks for stopping by.


Any buff you get is going to be temporary as well. So how can you possibly argue that you need more temporary measures via buffs when you already have plenty - some expensive like the total protection, some cheap and easy like deflect or going offline properly? You will never get a permanent "no PvP" button, because that would be a different game entirely - kinda like solitaire. Last time I checked this was an MMORPG and lotsa people play.

But yes, the upgrade opt out is expensive, as one should expect. In my book, a few FSP is hardly enough for cutting away a vast part of a game, but it seems to please plenty of players, who would rather do that, than admit they picked the wrong game to play to begin with. This is, and has always been a game with PvP. Said it very clearly in the original description, and it has been said numerous times by the moo moos.
Don't like it? Buy the opt out, or opt out entirely.


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Posted 19 March 2011 - 07:45

Spell Breaker v Anti-Deflect;

Spell Breaker when it kicks in it knock off a random buff, why not make Spell breaker more effective. and drop the anti deflect buff.Although this is a pvp game and it will make it more interesting. What about those that are lvlers how will the anti deflect affect them using deflect. again isn't that creating an open season on lvlers. they are getting 100 stammed by pvpers and there protection is deflect.now if anti deflect can remove deflect where is there protection.they get hit for their gold they get hit for their rating some get repeated attacks in one day I think that's beating them to a pulp.
My suggestion for anti-deflect is that it works once you get on the BB.and on GvG activity.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 07:46

Spell Breaker v Anti-Deflect;

Spell Breaker when it kicks in it knock off a random buff, why not make Spell breaker more effective. and drop the anti deflect buff.Although this is a pvp game and it will make it more interesting. What about those that are lvlers how will the anti deflect affect them using deflect. again isn't that creating an open season on lvlers. they are getting 100 stammed by pvpers and there protection is deflect.now if anti deflect can remove deflect where is there protection.they get hit for their gold they get hit for their rating some get repeated attacks in one day I think that's beating them to a pulp.
My suggestion for anti-deflect is that it works once you get on the BB.and on GvG activity.


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