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#1 ElfEragon

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 20:15

yesturday a thief stole 275k off of me while i was hunting (yes i know that pvp is part of the game, but that isnt pvp thats stealing), so i came up with this idea; banks protect up to X amount of your money in our society, so on here i think that we should have an automatic gold protection up to a certain limit, starting out at 500k and you can upgrade in your upgrades page by 1 million everytime you upgrade it. its pretty bad that we cant carry around that much gold without it getting stolen by other players. when you need lots of gold to hell forge items a player can attack you and take all of the gold that you where going to use for your forging. also maybe have this go towards monsters as well.

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 20:18

who was the thief? I'd like to shake his hand. Theres an upgrade called...and get this..."PvP protection" it allows a certain amount of gold per level to be kept safely. So NO this is a bad idea. PvP is and always will be the best gold sink in the game.It was also meant to be about gold theft. Otherwise the option to pvp would never have existed...

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Posted 18 July 2011 - 21:51

Pvp is the best gold sink if their isnt gold sik then Fsp will just become more and more expensive. Like how it used to cost 50,000 for 1 fsp now its 175,000. In the triple xp event fsps where 200,000 gold so its not bad. 275k isnt that much what an fsp i be appy its just that. Ive took that amount loads of times.

Like Sin said just invest in Pvp Protection or just bank your gold or convert it into fsps.

Game has enough updates and before anything else get implemented lets fix old ones like gvg

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 09:21

yesturday a thief stole 275k off of me while i was hunting (yes i know that pvp is part of the game, but that isnt pvp thats stealing), so i came up with this idea; banks protect up to X amount of your money in our society, so on here i think that we should have an automatic gold protection up to a certain limit, starting out at 500k and you can upgrade in your upgrades page by 1 million everytime you upgrade it. its pretty bad that we cant carry around that much gold without it getting stolen by other players. when you need lots of gold to hell forge items a player can attack you and take all of the gold that you where going to use for your forging. also maybe have this go towards monsters as well.



Players already have several ways to protect their gold via their upgrades. You can chose PvP protection and have your account protected as long as you do not have over 10k per level on hand (up to 1million). You can also upgrade your daily amount of Bank deposits and also your refills so you can use your bank slots as many times as you like.

I am afraid that we will not be placing any further abilities to protect your gold, as gold sinks are very important as players will tell you.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 09:38

yesturday a thief stole 275k off of me while i was hunting (yes i know that pvp is part of the game, but that isnt pvp thats stealing), so i came up with this idea; banks protect up to X amount of your money in our society, so on here i think that we should have an automatic gold protection up to a certain limit, starting out at 500k and you can upgrade in your upgrades page by 1 million everytime you upgrade it. its pretty bad that we cant carry around that much gold without it getting stolen by other players. when you need lots of gold to hell forge items a player can attack you and take all of the gold that you where going to use for your forging. also maybe have this go towards monsters as well.



Players already have several ways to protect their gold via their upgrades. You can chose PvP protection and have your account protected as long as you do not have over 10k per level on hand (up to 1million). You can also upgrade your daily amount of Bank deposits and also your refills so you can use your bank slots as many times as you like.

I am afraid that we will not be placing any further abilities to protect your gold, as gold sinks are very important as players will tell you.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 10:48

After playing this game three and a half years, the OP only needs to upgrade his guild/mates and allies to protect him when attacked. It's a FREE upgrade and one many players neglect. Instead they want automatic punishments and more protection from the devs. The devs have gone too far by allowing PvP Protection to protect gold. Even the recently added cap is worthless. PvP protection was repeatedly denounced that it was not going to happen. Maybe that is what has left the bad taste in my mouth. It has also ruined other things like the Gold Hoarder medal accomplishment. It made players mules for entire guilds where guildmates can send gold to them and they can convert it into safe FSPs for them bypassing the need to upgrade deposits or refill deposits. It is one of the reasons the BB is almost always empty. It has done mostly bad and little good imo. The devs sold their soul to allow a few more bucks to be made while ruining a good portion of the PvP aspect of the game. I hope they choke on them. The upgrade needs to be modified! It needs to not protect any gold. Let it protect xp and durability. Let it work against GvGs. It is far too easy to dump gold via selling on the MP, buying potions/buffs, making deposits, sending to guildmates/friends, hellforging, etc, etc, etc. That was a game! Now it's just blindly level and see how much xp and gold we can get. Booooring! All these uber pots with FSP sales won't plug the whole in the sinking FS ship. We need Hoof to be a Captain of his ship called Fallensword.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 11:14

That was a game! Now it's just blindly level and see how much xp and gold we can get.


Well, when you put it like that it is. That all i do and never realised it.

The reason why this game is failing is cause of the players not the cows, they are just trying to satisfy everyone. The cows need to realise that there is always going to be someone complaining and they cannot win but only provide for the majority want.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 14:22

After playing this game three and a half years, the OP only needs to upgrade his guild/mates and allies to protect him when attacked. It's a FREE upgrade and one many players neglect. Instead they want automatic punishments and more protection from the devs. The devs have gone too far by allowing PvP Protection to protect gold. Even the recently added cap is worthless. PvP protection was repeatedly denounced that it was not going to happen. Maybe that is what has left the bad taste in my mouth. It has also ruined other things like the Gold Hoarder medal accomplishment. It made players mules for entire guilds where guildmates can send gold to them and they can convert it into safe FSPs for them bypassing the need to upgrade deposits or refill deposits. It is one of the reasons the BB is almost always empty. It has done mostly bad and little good imo. The devs sold their soul to allow a few more bucks to be made while ruining a good portion of the PvP aspect of the game. I hope they choke on them. The upgrade needs to be modified! It needs to not protect any gold. Let it protect xp and durability. Let it work against GvGs. It is far too easy to dump gold via selling on the MP, buying potions/buffs, making deposits, sending to guildmates/friends, hellforging, etc, etc, etc. That was a game! Now it's just blindly level and see how much xp and gold we can get. Booooring! All these uber pots with FSP sales won't plug the whole in the sinking FS ship. We need Hoof to be a Captain of his ship called Fallensword.


I am not a pvper and I don't think I've hit anyone for gold since I was about level 100...although I cant be sure, because my memory gets a bit sketchy that far back....however, I totally agree that PvP Protection is a bad thing for the game, it should be removed, allowing more gold to be sunk, more players to appear on the board and more life put back into hitting people.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:12

i know the current system is designed for that, but if you talk to all the players in the game that do all they can to protect their gold (other then pvp protection) they will tell you the same thing that i am saying, these players that attack other players not for pvp but to steal gold.. what morals do they really have? when they attack and take gold, wih gear that most players cant afford; so how can it really be a fair system?

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:18

i know the current system is designed for that, but if you talk to all the players in the game that do all they can to protect their gold (other then pvp protection) they will tell you the same thing that i am saying, these players that attack other players not for pvp but to steal gold.. what morals do they really have? when they attack and take gold, wih gear that most players cant afford; so how can it really be a fair system?


You gold is safe if you deposit it in the bank.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:19

who was the thief? I'd like to shake his hand. Theres an upgrade called...and get this..."PvP protection" it allows a certain amount of gold per level to be kept safely. So NO this is a bad idea. PvP is and always will be the best gold sink in the game.It was also meant to be about gold theft. Otherwise the option to pvp would never have existed...


really???? i had never noticed that, i had also never noticed that it costs too much to use and the fact that players that dont donate becuase they cant afford it dont really want to waste fsp on something like that... lets get one thing straight, STEALING GOLD IS NOT PVP!

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:22

i know the current system is designed for that, but if you talk to all the players in the game that do all they can to protect their gold (other then pvp protection) they will tell you the same thing that i am saying, these players that attack other players not for pvp but to steal gold.. what morals do they really have? when they attack and take gold, wih gear that most players cant afford; so how can it really be a fair system?


If you pay for gear, you get the upper hand. That's life. And lets face it, pleasing the majority is not always whats best for the game. Sometimes the players won't be happy with what happens, but that doesn't mean it's not whats best for the game. And it isn't a lack of morals. It bothers me that over-sensitive crybaby say that people who take gold in a GAME, don't have morals or feelings. Drama queens. :roll:

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:23

i know the current system is designed for that, but if you talk to all the players in the game that do all they can to protect their gold (other then pvp protection) they will tell you the same thing that i am saying, these players that attack other players not for pvp but to steal gold.. what morals do they really have? when they attack and take gold, wih gear that most players cant afford; so how can it really be a fair system?


You gold is safe if you deposit it in the bank.


i know its safe in your bank; butwhile your hunting, how are you suposed to protect it?... players that want to opt into pvp should be allowed to get attacked, but players that want to stay out get attcked by the players in the pvp so that player can get more prestige or pvp points

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:24

who was the thief? I'd like to shake his hand. Theres an upgrade called...and get this..."PvP protection" it allows a certain amount of gold per level to be kept safely. So NO this is a bad idea. PvP is and always will be the best gold sink in the game.It was also meant to be about gold theft. Otherwise the option to pvp would never have existed...


really???? i had never noticed that, i had also never noticed that it costs too much to use and the fact that players that dont donate becuase they cant afford it dont really want to waste fsp on something like that... lets get one thing straight, STEALING GOLD IS NOT PVP!


Yes it is. If I am to steal your gold, than I have have to attack you. That is putting my player versus your player. Which is PvP. Your perverted concept of what you think it SHOULD be, is not what it really is. :roll:

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:27

i know its safe in your bank; butwhile your hunting, how are you suposed to protect it?


Marketplace, deposits, send it to friends. Do we really need a fourth? :roll:

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:31

i know the current system is designed for that, but if you talk to all the players in the game that do all they can to protect their gold (other then pvp protection) they will tell you the same thing that i am saying, these players that attack other players not for pvp but to steal gold.. what morals do they really have? when they attack and take gold, wih gear that most players cant afford; so how can it really be a fair system?


If you pay for gear, you get the upper hand. That's life. And lets face it, pleasing the majority is not always whats best for the game. Sometimes the players won't be happy with what happens, but that doesn't mean it's not whats best for the game. And it isn't a lack of morals. It bothers me that over-sensitive crybaby say that people who take gold in a GAME, don't have morals or feelings. Drama queens. :roll:


crybaby??? you think im crying over this, the only thing im doing is trying to benifit other players... this is what is wrong with people, the drama queens are the people that act like idiots being rude to other players, your a jerk so dont come onto here to make rude statements

.. the whole system benifit's the players that have money to donate.. rich players get richer, poor players get taken advantage of.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:35

The reason why this game is failing is cause of the players not the cows, they are just trying to satisfy everyone. The cows need to realise that there is always going to be someone complaining and they cannot win but only provide for the majority want.


They need to do what is best for the game, not is wanted by the players. That is their mistake. PvP Protection, wanted by many players, killed that aspect of the game. They need to make the needed decisions whether they are liked or not. Otherwise the game will continue to slowly dwindle.

.. the whole system benifit's the players that have money to donate.. rich players get richer, poor players get taken advantage of.


Obviously! If there was no reason to donate, no one would. Personally, I don't have the ability to donate, but I am not too dense to realize that if I don't put into the game, I won't get as much out of it. And it is possible to get rich in this game without donating, it is just much harder. As it should be.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:37

who was the thief? I'd like to shake his hand. Theres an upgrade called...and get this..."PvP protection" it allows a certain amount of gold per level to be kept safely. So NO this is a bad idea. PvP is and always will be the best gold sink in the game.It was also meant to be about gold theft. Otherwise the option to pvp would never have existed...


really???? i had never noticed that, i had also never noticed that it costs too much to use and the fact that players that dont donate becuase they cant afford it dont really want to waste fsp on something like that... lets get one thing straight, STEALING GOLD IS NOT PVP!


Yes it is. If I am to steal your gold, than I have have to attack you. That is putting my player versus your player. Which is PvP. Your perverted concept of what you think it SHOULD be, is not what it really is. :roll:


its not player vs player when you get attacked by someone that is a way higher lvl and has way more advanced gear then you can even use, thats not player vs player thats player vs an easy target.. pvp is player attacking another player for points and for sport, players attacking random people that are not in the pvp band is not that definition of pvp... but who cares, the players that donate can just take advantage of everyone they want.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:42

crybaby??? you think im crying over this, the only thing im doing is trying to benifit other players... this is what is wrong with people, the drama queens are the people that act like idiots being rude to other players, your a jerk so dont come onto here to make rude statements


Do I think you are crying about this. Literally no, but you sure are doing a bit of whining.

You are not benefiting other players, has anybody else here agreed with you?

And most PvPers aren't drama queens. Acting, as you say, like an "idiot" doesn't make you a drama queen, whining about it on the other hand, does.

PvPers aren't idiots, it takes a fair amount of intelligence to understand PvP and a fair amount more to be good at it. It can be a very profitable aspect of the game. It may seem rude, but I have made several friends with people I have attacked. They were obviously more open minded.

And you can call me a jerk, but really, I am just being truthful.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 21:47

its not player vs player when you get attacked by someone that is a way higher lvl and has way more advanced gear then you can even use, thats not player vs player thats player vs an easy target.. pvp is player attacking another player for points and for sport, players attacking random people that are not in the pvp band is not that definition of pvp... but who cares, the players that donate can just take advantage of everyone they want.


First of all that "easy target" is still a player. So technically it is still Player Versus Player.

And the concept of PvP has nothing attached to it. You can't just define it however you want. Whenever two players have combat it is PvP, no matter what the circumstances. And also, there are several buffs, and setups that can block people from nearly any level from attacking you.

And as previously stated. You can still be rich in this game without donating, it is just a lot harder.

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