Since its pretty obvious the small group with nothing better to do but try and push their agenda on any thread vagely assoiated with pvp congratulations! you totally derailed this thread.
as a currently-non pvper i am failing to understand why more pvp gear is wanted.. surely with all the items in the game there is enough for pvpers without the need to add yet more stuff
Didnt you announce you had quit in the thread where you cried about not being able to get ahead in this game without donating? Doing the pvp ladder IS a way for a player to exchange hard work for FSP pretty much why those who fail at it are upset over it. you said it yourself,,
as a currently-non pvper i am failing
Ryebread, we all saw your post about new tokens is it really that hard to accept that HCS ASKED for suggestions for new gear? Obviously they think its working fine and even if they dont then they will change it then. I posted several constructive suggestions in your thread on that topic. how about at least adding your suggestions for new gear? That was the intent of THIS thread
I don't care how much it costs someone to play, profit should NOT be the reason.
LoL, good luck with that. It's like telling people to buy Maxim for their excellent movie review, not for their wet sexy woman wearing rags and scraps pictures. 
+1 As I have said before untill titan drops are bound, SE/LE/elite and regular creature drops are bound, potions are bound and arena wins are bound nobody has any right to cry about another aspect of the game simply because they arent making a profit there,,,and in the end thats what it boils down to isnt it? Billy has a shinier helmet than me so im going to take the football and go home.
Sounds like you are really saying:
"I would hate to see people who play the game in a manner that is not how I think it should be played taking all the profit and status out of how I choose to play. The best solution is to change PvP -- again! -- so that my way is the most succesful way, and reduce competition from new players by making sure only established players can have the best PvP items. And even though I complain that the proft from selling PvP gear has been eliminated by the people who play in a way other than I do, at the same time, I don't PvP for profit, nope, not a bit, never, so let's make it so that those other people can't make a profit anymore."
Feel free to explain where I have misinterpretted what you said.
*thunderous applause* exactly! +1000!!
Additionally Mr. Dog, if you knew me you would see that I have argued against the ladder from the start,
Ummm which Mr Dog were you talking to bro? I was against the ladder from the start, I didnt agree with many changes but in the end I accepted the changes the cows made and evolved to them. Ripple and I have NEVER opted out of PvP We enjoy the challenge! Do we think its perfect? NO! Is it much less of a challenge with the pathetic participation? Hell yes! Will we quit of ask they take the fun away from others because we dont like the way its going? Of course not! As I have said before NO OTHER aspect of the game has had so many changes and obstacles put on it. There are NO other recipes with a level restriction, there are NO restrictions to arena prizes or ANY level restrictions to the recipes that use arena prizes. There is NO restriction to guild level to titan hunt.
This thread was intended to be there for suggestions for the new gear that has been announced WILL HAPPEN,,deal with it! It was supposed to be a chance for players both pvp and non to post ideas for gear that is needed in all levels for whatever reason, leveling, pvp, the fact that armor dominates some areas and defensive others and there would be nothing wrong with mixing it up again. Congratulations on totally derailing this topic! Do all of you secretly donate every piece of gold of FSP you come across to some poor nondonating player or is it just that you are upset that your profits arent enough for you? Or maybe its just not easy enough for you.
Is it really that much to ask the players of FS to actually keep on topic here?