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#21 Necra

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 18:28

I dont care if its my mother if its a approved way to get SEs faster id like to know it too if not then they should not have been using it.
And thanks for bringing unwanted attention to that player,,heres your sign

http://t2.gstatic.co...yg02QJLrenFp_Ga




that was really insulting

#22 fs_dsjupiter

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 18:34

People don't hunt SE's as often as they used to. The keep spawning so if its been a couple hours since any of them have been killed odds are they are in each realm it spawns in. An experienced SE hunter knows his way around the maps. Its not very difficult. And as for the timing fast connection, good server same story with titan hunting. How does he get to the exact spot? Probably sends a few dots to people who will find the loc for him so he spends less stamina searching for them and is just after the medal.

How come anytime someone does something "unusual" or not commonly seen in this game, or even wins something they are accused of cheating now? Seriously? :roll:

#23 watagashi

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 20:02

I have been trying very hard throughout this post to only say it looks strange to me and if there is an approved trick please let me know about it because I have tried all the reasons im told its happening that way and not getting them like this.

But here is a great example. again player name removed.


03/Sep/2011
19:22
Triclopse (Super Elite)
Daradom (Caves)
(8, 14) [no drop]
03/Sep/2011
19:11
Fushiyoma (Super Elite)
Sanctum of Khel (East)
(8, 1) [no drop]
03/Sep/2011
19:08
Fushiyoma (Super Elite)
Sanctum of Khel (South)
(7, 1) [no drop]
03/Sep/2011
19:07
Fushiyoma (Super Elite)
Sanctum of Khel (West)
(4, 8) [no drop]
03/Sep/2011
19:03
Fushiyoma (Super Elite)
Sanctum of Khel (West)
(6, 12)
03/Sep/2011
19:02
Fushiyoma (Super Elite)
Sanctum of Khel (North)
(4, 13) [no drop]
03/Sep/2011
19:00
Fushiyoma (Super Elite)
Sanctum of Khel (North)
(3, 4)

This is entirely possable with a fast connection,,, and a little luck. These areas are connected by a central realm and do not require a port. The times are not all 2min apart and you have a 1/4 chance of guessing the right realm. SEs like vexus, the hag, xindy and fush are easy to get strings of. I have seen strings of others such as the malphias I listed which even with fast speed and knowing the maps it should be taking a lot longer to find them and since I have been paying attention when the afore mentioned NB run was made after a run of 3-4 the player generally sits around and then goes inactive, the SE isnt seen again for a hour or more. This is suspicious as it exibits behavior of someone who knew when a SE was out if not where.

#24 livingsin

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 20:07

its really not hard to predict which realm an SE is in....study wiki...watch the SE logs and you'll eventually see a pattern emerge. I used to do this with alot of the SE's. especially lusika and cockatrice. As far as the speed is concerned...thats really nothing special...with my crap connection and FSH I can cross a map in about 10seconds flat...again repeating CRAP connection...

#25 Bleltch

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 21:42

How come anytime someone does something "unusual" or not commonly seen in this game, or even wins something they are accused of cheating now? Seriously? :roll:

Maybe because the game has cheats galore? I look at the se logs from time to time and see the same thing the op does. I scratch my head and ask myself is that really possible? Seeing a player kill 4 or 5 of em in a span of 5-10 minutes i've noticed on a few occasions. If it's a script they're using or a bug they exploit, or if they genuinely go out and do it straight up, i wonder.

...with my crap connection and FSH I can cross a map in about 10seconds flat...again repeating CRAP connection...

It's not tough to get across a map, it's the checking of every square along the way that slows things way down. At least for me. Is there a way to predict which square in a realm an SE will be?

#26 fs_chibibucky

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 21:47

it does not sounds like a trick at all to me. i think this is the same way i got my medal and it was nothing fancy. i have been on all day and i see that no one has killed a certain SE in several hours cause i have been looking at the kill logs. i know that odds of 1 of this SE being in each realm is high and i know what realms it lives in. so i scans the realms and kill the SE. this works best with vexus cause the areas are small and connected. sometimes i would get a kill in one area and move to the next only to get another kill within a few steps into that room. the kills would be only 1 or 2 minutes apart and yes i guess it look suspicious to some but nothing wrong was done and i dont even have a fast connection on to get kills that close together.

does that clear this up?

oh also once you have check an area enough times you get really fast at checking it cause you know what it looks like by heart. was a time when i could step on every square on each malphas area in like 20 mins without looking at the map but a very few times. and i know that their are fast smarter SE hunters than me so no its no trick or anything.

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edit: that being said people do cheat the hell out of this game. its so sad.

#27 Necra

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 22:12

some ppl have fiber optic and T3 internet lines available to them so yes it is possible. if i remember correctly in china every one has T3 internet connections

#28 fs_dsjupiter

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 23:00

Again, I don't believe this is a script. Yes we all know tons of people cheat in this game, but at the same time if you actually know what you are doing and are good at it. Prepared well then odds are you can accomplish this. Just need to know those areas by heart (which many SE hunters do) have a good connection, be on a good server and a friend to spot them out for you. Does this mean all of them are doing this and not cheating in some type of manor? No they may have developed a script of their own with specific settings to optimize SE hunting so they can get from point A to point B. But a script that tells them the exact spot where the SE is sitting at? I believe this was brought up in the past and the cows said its impossible to detect without actually hacking them. And are you that lame to hack the cows just to kill an SE? If so please just leave the game now.. Odds are they have a friend who searches for them whenever they ask and they get a small payment. I have done this for friends who were working on their medal and have had friends do this in return.

#29 evilbry

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 23:06

Last year a player made a fun challenge for the fastest time 3 lishka's could be killed.

3 were killed in the same minute with no cheating done.

#30 Splash

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 01:29

-Sweep (Faster if you have a few others helping)
-Find SE's
-Note down the coords
-Run back and kill them all

With a fast connection, it isn't that hard to get a bunch of kills on the same SE within a few minutes. Only problem is someone else coming along and killing it/them before you.

So, no, don't think anyone would bother 'cheating' just to kill SE's, are they really worth that much? With the exception of NB .. for the moment.

#31 sweetlou

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 09:16

It's a scientific fact that smoking weed does lead to paranoia

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#32 shindrak

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 14:37

its possible with light walk and fast connection

#33 watagashi

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 18:28

Thanks everyone for all the input and yea im beginning to see that its got a lot to do about the connection,,,and

I see why people block msgs while they hunt.
and remove other distractions.
And wow when you are watching it 2min is longer than it seems when you see it on a log
and..

It's a scientific fact that smoking weed does lead to paranoia



that too :P


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