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#821 fs_chibibucky

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:14

how about being able to bounty every attack(off the BB) but you can only lose a max of 1 level per bounty? its plenty of enough 'punishment' for the attack since it takes more xp then what they took


you would see way more players on the BB with this. i see a player with 5 million on them and know it will cost me one level at most then im totally going for it. you can imagine the number of bounties a change like this could produce. it would also suck up a ton of bounty tickets (or gold if that change is still going) by forcing players to pay in to take 5 bounties on the same hitter.

#822 watagashi

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:15

Id like to see this thread keep on its topic too, hoof said we will work out other things after the ladder is decided such as gear bb and GvG so try and keep to that and hope he shows up to clear the chaos soon.

And to ignore my own post a time limit of a hour on bountys would be sweet too. if they arent accepted by then they expire with no refund of posting cost,

#823 Mekrushu

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:16

Why are we talking about BB isnt this about PVP


The topic is PVP Improvements and the BB is certainly an aspect of PVP. People are crying because the bounty board is dead. Well, we are trying to address the reasons why it is dead and find an agreeable solution for all. More people will participate in pvp and bounties if we can stop mud slinging and name calling and do that. (not directed at you, just in general!)

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#824 RebornJedi

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:16

how about being able to bounty every attack(off the BB) but you can only lose a max of 1 level per bounty? its plenty of enough 'punishment' for the attack since it takes more xp then what they took

Not sure if I understood it correctly...
You wouldn't be able to take 5 from someone-instead you would be limited to 1 level per hit,,?

correct..every hit off the board..

 


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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:17

how about being able to bounty every attack(off the BB) but you can only loose a max of 1 level per bounty? its plenty of enough 'punishment' for the attack since it takes more xp then what they took


Nice idea, and even though 1 level over 10% or 2.5% is more I would suggest 2/3 levels so that one person alone cannot 0 your XP Remaining on the BB.. It looks good, and I laugh, when I see it happen but it will happen too often to be amusing if it is that way.
Other than that, I like!

they should get rid of the xp loss and posted time on the bounty..it will add some mystery to bounty hunting. most won't take a bounty if it was posted awhile ago(depending)


I would take any bounty if it was posted hours ago IF it ends in 50 and stays that way for 3+mins(maybe more if they have deflect on) or stays the same XP reaminging for 5or so.
I agree with the adding more mystery to it though, would annoy the F out of me loosing more than I would like.
But wouldnt be too bad!


#826 vamunre

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:17

I 2 also play many other games, but many of those other games have PVP an PVE servers should I want to be a thief I go to one of PVP servers or ask 20 or so players on one of the PVE servers to PVP.
If I want to level I stay on the PVE servers. there is NO CHOICE IS FS


I understand that other games segregate the styles of play more, but it is a bit of an exaggeration to claim that there is NO choice here. There is indeed PvP Protection, leveling out of range of an attacker, deflect (which can still be bountied), hiding gold, etc. There are ways to be 99% sure you will never be attacked that are free...


Who are you trying to kid? Sure I could buy levels,or wait on my stamina to build up to level. Sure I could buy protection and deflect. But it isnt needed in other games. Back to no real choice. I don't have to pay for any of this in any other game that has PVE/PVP servers! I just choose a PVE server if I dont want to PVP its that simple!

#827 douglasj

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:18


The BB is an integral part of PvP. One of the reasons why PvP is so dead is because non-Pvpers consider the BB broken, and therefore do not use it much.

But. This update is mainly about PvP ladder not the BB (besides the change of fsp to gold for ticket)


PvP Improvements is what I read on the title of the thread, safe assumption that such a title would include the board :mrgreen:

Yeh but so far after countless pages we have got no where. Seems like a never ending battle between pvp & leveling. why can't everyone be happy.

#828 RebornJedi

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:18

I would take any bounty if it was posted hours ago IF it ends in 50 and stays that way for 3+mins(maybe more if they have deflect on) or stays the same XP reaminging for 5or so.
I agree with the adding more mystery to it though, would annoy the F out of me loosing more than I would like.
But wouldnt be too bad!

would bring more hunters on one bounty and would probably bring more bounties because of slow/quitting BHers

 


#829 RebornJedi

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:20

Yeh but so far after countless pages we have got no where. Seems like a never ending battle between pvp & leveling. why can't everyone be happy.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:20

why can't everyone be happy.


Happiness is not permitted in the land of FS :lol:

Only way we are going to come to an agreement is by talking it out, it's unfortunate that things get derailed so quickly

#831 BaiLong

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:21

I would take any bounty if it was posted hours ago IF it ends in 50 and stays that way for 3+mins(maybe more if they have deflect on) or stays the same XP reaminging for 5or so.
I agree with the adding more mystery to it though, would annoy the F out of me loosing more than I would like.
But wouldnt be too bad!

would bring more hunters on one bounty and would probably bring more bounties because of slow/quitting BHers


And I dare say that is in fact the goal we are working towards.....slowly

#832 douglasj

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:22

If we have covered some ground it will be hidden some where in these many pages. I feel sorry for HCS trying to make heads or tails of this thread.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:22

I 2 also play many other games, but many of those other games have PVP an PVE servers should I want to be a thief I go to one of PVP servers or ask 20 or so players on one of the PVE servers to PVP.
If I want to level I stay on the PVE servers. there is NO CHOICE IS FS


I understand that other games segregate the styles of play more, but it is a bit of an exaggeration to claim that there is NO choice here. There is indeed PvP Protection, leveling out of range of an attacker, deflect (which can still be bountied), hiding gold, etc. There are ways to be 99% sure you will never be attacked that are free...


Who are you trying to kid? Sure I could buy levels,or wait on my stamina to build up to level. Sure I could buy protection and deflect. But it isnt needed in other games. Back to no real choice. I don't have to pay for any of this in any other game that has PVE/PVP servers! I just choose a PVE server if I dont want to PVP its that simple!


It's always good to play more than one game, buy who wants to play more than one game that the only differance is the players that play it and the game title?
I would have comfort in playing a totally diffant, while similar game.
I Just enjoy games on console which cause utter blood bath and get abuse through miccys.
All my game have it, all are diffant


#834 Anemie

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:23

how about being able to bounty every attack(off the BB) but you can only lose a max of 1 level per bounty? its plenty of enough 'punishment' for the attack since it takes more xp then what they took

Not sure if I understood it correctly...
You wouldn't be able to take 5 from someone-instead you would be limited to 1 level per hit,,?

correct..every hit off the board..

I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work...I level is nothing-especially if it isn't guarantied that you will lose it...
Some players hit only once,or rarely-what if they take 4,5+ mil gold.Is 1 level enough?

And what about situations where player deserves to lose 5(or more)-getting bounties on some players can be pretty hard-with 1 level max-BB would actually become pointless...

#835 RebornJedi

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:23

what are your thoughts on Bounties and the PvP Ladder??

personally i think you shouldn't be able to bounty an attack if both parties are on the ladder(same pvp band of course)

 


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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:24

I Just enjoy games on console which cause utter blood bath and get abuse through miccys.

Same :twisted: Love pissing people off over Xbox live.:mrgreen:

#837 Bleltch

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:24

And to ignore my own post a time limit of a hour on bountys would be sweet too. if they arent accepted by then they expire with no refund of posting cost,

Oh yea, that would work out good. LOL

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:26


You wouldn't be able to take 5 from someone-instead you would be limited to 1 level per hit,,?

correct..every hit off the board..

I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work...I level is nothing-especially if it isn't guarantied that you will lose it...
Some players hit only once,or rarely-what if they take 4,5+ mil gold.Is 1 level enough?

And what about situations where player deserves to lose 5(or more)-getting bounties on some players can be pretty hard-with 1 level max-BB would actually become pointless...


shouldn't be holding that much gold on ya :lol:

who deserves to lose 5(or more)??

 


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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:28

who deserves to lose 5(or more)??




So the new idea to promote more pvp is to limit the punishment you can do on the BB? LOL Your gonna see more and more levelers being hit all the time for coppers and coins. And then they will complain that the attacker isnt punished enough, or deterred enough from hitting them again. :roll:

#840 Bleltch

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 22:28

what are your thoughts on Bounties and the PvP Ladder??

personally i think you shouldn't be able to bounty an attack if both parties are on the ladder(same pvp band of course)

Might as well get rid of exp loss too.


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