Jump to content

Photo

Bounty Board Favors the PvPers -- here are some fixes


  • Please log in to reply
89 replies to this topic

#41 Snowy900

Snowy900

    Member

  • New Members
  • PipPip
  • 352 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 12:00

Because putting bounty costs money, counter-productive, plain useless, and all around a stupid thing to do.



I dont understand why you say this. Do you only think its pointless because your guild wont back you up?
If you get hit, im sure if your guild took 5 then you wouldnt get hit again

#42 Maehdros

Maehdros

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,329 posts
  • Canada

Posted 21 September 2011 - 12:04

Because putting bounty costs money, counter-productive, plain useless, and all around a stupid thing to do.





How is defending a guildmate who is hit , by throwing the culprit on the BB and taking 5 levels counter productive? Heck you can take more then 5 if you fancy it.How is it stupid? This exact mind set is whats wrong with guilds and players in this game.I Don't get why players whine and complain about something if they dont care enough about guild/ guildmates/ friends to use it to its full potential.

#43 Denyza

Denyza

    Veteran

  • New Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 735 posts
  • Indonesia

Posted 21 September 2011 - 12:33

C'mon guys, don't play dumb with me.

- We all know by putting bounty you just raised your chances of getting 100 stammed again 90%.
- Which means you will be 100 stammed again.
- And again.
- Which means now you have to ask your guildmates to waste their precious time just for delevel, so you wouldn't get 100 stammed again.
- Which would make the PvP-er pissed, because we know that "PvP don't care exp" is the biggest bullshaga in the game.
- Which means the PvP-er now declare guild war and everybody 100 stamming everybody.
- Which would make your guildmate hate you for being a drama queen in the first place.

And on, and on, and on, and on....
Plus with 100 stammed already costs me money, why should I spend extra money for ticket AND gold, just to make things worse?
That's crazy talk.

LastSignature_zps9cb1e771.jpg

 


#44 Snowy900

Snowy900

    Member

  • New Members
  • PipPip
  • 352 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 12:38

C'mon guys, don't play dumb with me.

- We all know by putting bounty you just raised your chances of getting 100 stammed again 90%.
- Which means you will be 100 stammed again.
- And again.
- Which means now you have to ask your guildmates to waste their precious time just for delevel, so you wouldn't get 100 stammed again.
- Which would make the PvP-er pissed, because we know that "PvP don't care exp" is the biggest bullshaga in the game.
- Which means the PvP-er now declare guild war and everybody 100 stamming everybody.
- Which would make your guildmate hate you for being a drama queen in the first place.

And on, and on, and on, and on....
Plus with 100 stammed already costs me money, why should I spend extra money for ticket AND gold, just to make things worse?
That's crazy talk.


your so wrong,,
if you take 5 every time someone hits you,, it is for sure going to make them stop and think.
and i thought being part of a guild means you can ask them to use their stam to stop someone from hitting you again.
and i really dont know which guild woud declare war on a guild that deleveled one of theirs for a gold hit.
Its quite hurtful to hear time and time again that 'PVP guilds' are evil and like nothing better than declaring war on everyone and everything

#45 Denyza

Denyza

    Veteran

  • New Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 735 posts
  • Indonesia

Posted 21 September 2011 - 12:49

I never said PvP is evil.
I never had or have a problem with a PvPer. Ever.

All I'm saying is putting bounty is nothing more than a waste of gold.
That's it.

LastSignature_zps9cb1e771.jpg

 


#46 Snowy900

Snowy900

    Member

  • New Members
  • PipPip
  • 352 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 13:30

and therein lies the problem,, you say its a waste of gold.
so an example is this
player A 100stams you and steals 1.1million gold
you do nothing and the next time your holding a fair amount of gold player A steals 'x' amount of gold from you.

try this
player A steals 1.1million gold from you,,
you spend 81000gold placing a bounty and your team mates take 5 levels from them
he is far less likey to hit you again for gold is he.

its only a waste of gold if you have selfish team mates who care only about themselves and how much gold they can amass

#47 yodamus

yodamus

    Veteran

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,119 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 14:00

wow..from what i read..i guess you should be forced into joining a huge guild where many players are online to be able to take 5...most smaller guilds will not have the players online at the same time to be able to do this...and so what if they lose 5, 10, 15..i have seen them lose it..and gain it right back in 1 day..whooopee..such punishment....they stay in same area..and gain those 5,10 or 15 back swiftly..and if taking 5 is such a punishment- then answer this one- why do almost all pvpers ASK to be put on the bb after they attack you...no punsihment..waste of gold and time for the victim..and unless victim of a small guild has most of his guild online to take 5....he will get hit even more while attacker is on the bb...not a good solution..

#48 Snowy900

Snowy900

    Member

  • New Members
  • PipPip
  • 352 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 14:12

wow..from what i read..i guess you should be forced into joining a huge guild where many players are online to be able to take 5...most smaller guilds will not have the players online at the same time to be able to do this...and so what if they lose 5, 10, 15..i have seen them lose it..and gain it right back in 1 day..whooopee..such punishment....they stay in same area..and gain those 5,10 or 15 back swiftly..and if taking 5 is such a punishment- then answer this one- why do almost all pvpers ASK to be put on the bb after they attack you...no punsihment..waste of gold and time for the victim..and unless victim of a small guild has most of his guild online to take 5....he will get hit even more while attacker is on the bb...not a good solution..


why join a big guild?,, 4 or 5 players can take 5 levels, most pvpers like being on the BB because they then get to have fun trying to defend against the hunter,,

most pvpers do not like levelin at all, it is tedious and time consuming.

and this is where you find the most problems, if you post while the pvper is online then they can defend themselves better, so why not wait until they are offline and then get your guild to delevel them 5.

what do you want,, its a game,, you cant take the gold with you so why not use it to bounty someone, there is too much greed and selfishness in guilds where everyone is out for themselves

#49 morderme

morderme

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 251 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 14:34

wow..from what i read..i guess you should be forced into joining a huge guild where many players are online to be able to take 5...most smaller guilds will not have the players online at the same time to be able to do this...and so what if they lose 5, 10, 15..i have seen them lose it..and gain it right back in 1 day..whooopee..such punishment....they stay in same area..and gain those 5,10 or 15 back swiftly..and if taking 5 is such a punishment- then answer this one- why do almost all pvpers ASK to be put on the bb after they attack you...no punsihment..waste of gold and time for the victim..and unless victim of a small guild has most of his guild online to take 5....he will get hit even more while attacker is on the bb...not a good solution..


why join a big guild?,, 4 or 5 players can take 5 levels, most pvpers like being on the BB because they then get to have fun trying to defend against the hunter,,

most pvpers do not like levelin at all, it is tedious and time consuming.

and this is where you find the most problems, if you post while the pvper is online then they can defend themselves better, so why not wait until they are offline and then get your guild to delevel them 5.

what do you want,, its a game,, you cant take the gold with you so why not use it to bounty someone, there is too much greed and selfishness in guilds where everyone is out for themselves


Very funny indeed...good strategy to wait for the PvPer to go offline...as long as the PvPer does not have perpetual bufferers...the stray PvPer can be treated that way, but the professional PvPer needs a professional response, hence suggestions to add options to the BB

...taking 5 is definitely nothing to the PvPer...I can't buy the argument PvPers don't like to be de-leveled -- isn't that one of the reasons that the VL rule was added?

Yes, it's a game, and it's better than a board game, as it continues to evolve...problem is, the BB has been left behind.

#50 morderme

morderme

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 251 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 14:40

Too bad you sound upset, and quite frankly I am not making excuses for anyone. Most rants in response to my suggestions run right past the fact that the nonPvPer has few choices to respond effectively to a PvP attack. And that runs right past the point of the Post -- improve the BB.

And herein lies the problem most players argue to begin with. Unless you buy PvP protection, there is no such thing as a nonPvPer in this game! You may not actively attack another player, but instead play the ROLE of the "victim" or attacked or punching bag or whatever you wish to call it.

So since the game began players who claim they don't want to play "that way" or play 1/2 the game are always looking for ways to reduce their xp loss which slows their perceived "progress" accumulating the all important xp.

The BB works fine! Because some players choose not to use it or can't use it effectively doesn't mean it needs to be fixed.

And I'm perfectly calm. I can argue this in my sleep it has become so routine... Good luck.


Unless you PvP Protection...HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa...at only 7 FSPs or more, depending on what protection you want...HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa...whoops, fell off my chair! HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa...only 100 FSPs for 28 days of protection! HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!1....Talk about being out of touch with the average player...HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!

#51 Denyza

Denyza

    Veteran

  • New Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 735 posts
  • Indonesia

Posted 21 September 2011 - 14:54

I lost all respect for you snowy. Really.
Too bad. I once really liked you, since you seems to be smarter than most people.

PvP is NEVER about exp
NEVER about gold.
It's actually has nothing to do with the game at all.

PvP is about people who's trying to prove whose e-penis is bigger in FSWorld.
That's the way I see it. And I refuse to get sucked in such game.
You may try to say anything to change my mind, but that's the way I see it, Sorry.

I've listened too much of:
"Oh noes, somebody 100 stammed me. Though I've lost no gold, but only exp. Though I stated clearly in my bio that I don't care about exp, my feelings is hurt! Help me take 5 or I cry, guys!"
*cries

That's PvP in my eyes.
Just because I'm a biatch, doesn't mean I'm not reasonable.
Think about it...

Btw, you gave bad example snowy. The day that anyone could steal 1 million from me, is the day that hell freezes over. So your whole theory doesn't apply.

LastSignature_zps9cb1e771.jpg

 


#52 morderme

morderme

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 251 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 14:56

I lost all respect for you snowy. Really.
Too bad. I once really liked you, since you seems to be smarter than most people.

PvP is NEVER about exp
NEVER about gold.
It's actually has nothing to do with the game at all.

PvP is about people who's trying to prove whose e-penis is bigger in FSWorld.
That's the way I see it. And I refuse to get sucked in such game.
You may try to say anything to change my mind, but that's the way I see it, Sorry.

I've listened too much of:
"Oh noes, somebody 100 stammed me. Though I've lost no gold, but only exp. Though I stated clearly in my bio that I don't care about exp, my feelings is hurt! Help me take 5 or I cry, guys!"
*cries

That's PvP in my eyes.
Just because I'm a biatch, doesn't mean I'm not reasonable.
Think about it...

Btw, you gave bad example snowy. The day that anyone could steal 1 million from me, is the day that hell freezes over. So your whole theory doesn't apply.


HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!! Love it!

#53 Snowy900

Snowy900

    Member

  • New Members
  • PipPip
  • 352 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 15:08

im sorry Denzya, if that is how you feel, what i posted is how i play the game, i dont pvp to compare e-penis size
I pvp for gold,, i dont care about xp loss,, but thats just me.

im a lazy pvper, the only time i worry about xp loss is when i as part of my guild is taking 5 levels from someone.

and yes Denzya using you as an example was bad, but it wasnt meant as a slight on you.

#54 Ryebred

Ryebred

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 422 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 15:33

Where do people get the idea that a PvPer cares nothing for loss...most hate leveling up...if I were ever to PvP & lose 5 or 10 it means I have to level back up....people that say they don't care about level loss are lying to a degree.....unless you are intentionally dropping levels, level loss inconveniences the PvP player just the same - I speak for myself here...and not from exp.. I observe a lot. :roll:

#55 morderme

morderme

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 251 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 15:42

and therein lies the problem,, you say its a waste of gold.
so an example is this
player A 100stams you and steals 1.1million gold
you do nothing and the next time your holding a fair amount of gold player A steals 'x' amount of gold from you.

try this
player A steals 1.1million gold from you,,
you spend 81000gold placing a bounty and your team mates take 5 levels from them
he is far less likey to hit you again for gold is he.

its only a waste of gold if you have selfish team mates who care only about themselves and how much gold they can amass


Sooo...in your (hypothetical) example...a player loses 1M gold, spends another 81K gold to BB, then another 200 stam (per player) to "punish" the PvPer then turns around and levels back up quickly, earning gold along the way....hmmm...who has been truly injured here?

#56 morderme

morderme

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 251 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 15:47


the BB is there as “retribution”, but it is not sufficient


I thought it is a luxury option for players who want “retribution” so badly. No bounty can be placed without Bounty Tickets that are available for FSPs in the Character Upgrade section. "Fallen Sword Points allow you to gain extra upgrades to your character." This is an extra option, when you don't want to risk with your own levels. The normal option is to hit your attacker back using free stamina. Every attacker reads this before hitting someone: " If you do attack another player, they will have the option to place a bounty upon you." The key word is 'option'.


Right... and risk getting bountied yourself...by the very same band of PvPers, or worse yet, a De-leveling party from the original target...not a smooth move there...

#57 Snowy900

Snowy900

    Member

  • New Members
  • PipPip
  • 352 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 15:52

and therein lies the problem,, you say its a waste of gold.
so an example is this
player A 100stams you and steals 1.1million gold
you do nothing and the next time your holding a fair amount of gold player A steals 'x' amount of gold from you.

try this
player A steals 1.1million gold from you,,
you spend 81000gold placing a bounty and your team mates take 5 levels from them
he is far less likey to hit you again for gold is he.

its only a waste of gold if you have selfish team mates who care only about themselves and how much gold they can amass


Sooo...in your (hypothetical) example...a player loses 1M gold, spends another 81K gold to BB, then another 200 stam (per player) to "punish" the PvPer then turns around and levels back up quickly, earning gold along the way....hmmm...who has been truly injured here?



So what exactly do you want friend,, if you want risk free leveling in a pvp based game buy pvp protection, otherwise dont carry large amounts of gold, my example is waht you do if you get caught with a lot of gold.
and a pvper having to waste his stam levelin up is what you are acheiving plus your giving him warning that you will take 5 levels every time he tries to steal gold off you

#58 Ryebred

Ryebred

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 422 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 15:54

and therein lies the problem,, you say its a waste of gold.
so an example is this
player A 100stams you and steals 1.1million gold
you do nothing and the next time your holding a fair amount of gold player A steals 'x' amount of gold from you.

try this
player A steals 1.1million gold from you,,
you spend 81000gold placing a bounty and your team mates take 5 levels from them
he is far less likey to hit you again for gold is he.

its only a waste of gold if you have selfish team mates who care only about themselves and how much gold they can amass


Sooo...in your (hypothetical) example...a player loses 1M gold, spends another 81K gold to BB, then another 200 stam (per player) to "punish" the PvPer then turns around and levels back up quickly, earning gold along the way....hmmm...who has been truly injured here?



What kind of party you planning...13-14 hitters? you are kinda making a point for the PvPer here -so they will drop 900 stam per person x4 typically to achieve the desired result of 5 levels lost...so here's a new punishment idea...start hitting PvPers repeatedly.....eat up all that stam..that'll teach em to mess with you.... you can change your guild rank to the staminator killer of stamina. :mrgreen:

#59 morderme

morderme

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 251 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 16:05

and therein lies the problem,, you say its a waste of gold.
so an example is this
player A 100stams you and steals 1.1million gold
you do nothing and the next time your holding a fair amount of gold player A steals 'x' amount of gold from you.

try this
player A steals 1.1million gold from you,,
you spend 81000gold placing a bounty and your team mates take 5 levels from them
he is far less likey to hit you again for gold is he.

its only a waste of gold if you have selfish team mates who care only about themselves and how much gold they can amass


Sooo...in your (hypothetical) example...a player loses 1M gold, spends another 81K gold to BB, then another 200 stam (per player) to "punish" the PvPer then turns around and levels back up quickly, earning gold along the way....hmmm...who has been truly injured here?



So what exactly do you want friend,, if you want risk free leveling in a pvp based game buy pvp protection, otherwise dont carry large amounts of gold, my example is waht you do if you get caught with a lot of gold.
and a pvper having to waste his stam levelin up is what you are acheiving plus your giving him warning that you will take 5 levels every time he tries to steal gold off you


No, not risk-free leveling, but, as the post originally started out, ways to beef up the BB so that the non-PvPers have more potent options while placing a bounty.

The game is PvPing -- I get it -- but the PvPing has grown to be more one-sided; the BB is part of the PvP experience -- BUT -- the BB has stagnated to little value it once was supposed to have.

#60 Snowy900

Snowy900

    Member

  • New Members
  • PipPip
  • 352 posts

Posted 21 September 2011 - 16:07

and there is the problem,, you want the maximum retribution against pvpers with the mnimum outlay in cost and stam to yourself


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Font:
Arial | Calibri | Lucida Console | Verdana
 
Font Size:
9px | 10px | 11px | 12px | 10pt | 12pt
 
Color: