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#1 DaleJunior

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 00:25

Here are former stats of Erik of the Frozen Wastes, formerly a terrific high damage mercenary:
(taken from the Wiki)
Name: Erik of the Frozen Wastes
* Class: Human
* Level: 800
* Strength: Elite
Statistics
* Attack: 13621
* Defense: 6025
* Armor: 6318
* HP: 54563
* Damage: 28438

Here are his stats when we hired him today:

Attack: 6565
Defense: 3081
Armor: 3294
HP: 33189
Damage: 6483

Will you PLEASE tell us why you have nerfed merc's stats and WHY YOU DID IT WITHOUT EVEN TELLING US???? Thank you.

#2 watagashi

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 01:45

If im not mistaken a merc comes in different levels,(see if hes not a lvl400 now) release and search again and he will come up a different level,,,unless you hired him

#3 DaleJunior

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 02:00

If im not mistaken a merc comes in different levels,(see if hes not a lvl400 now) release and search again and he will come up a different level,,,unless you hired him


Nope, not this one. I've hired hundreds maybe thousands of mercs and I know them like the back of my hand. This one has definitely been nerfed, as have a lot of others I've seen recently as well.

#4 watagashi

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 02:43

Hmmm thats strange,,,I havent hired one in forever but I know many had different levels and thats all I can think of for this

#5 sweetlou

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 10:02

It's always strange when HCS does something and doesn't mention it in a news feed or the forum. Wouldn't be the first time! More importantly, is it a big deal that the stats have been nerfed(presumably), or that they didn't tell us? Because the last few merc additions have been insanely overpowered. They needed to be brought back down, or better yet I question if we really ever needed them.

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#6 Hoofmaster

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 13:12

As far as I know, none of the merc stats have been changed - I can check with the team tomorrow though. :)

#7 cyrus7

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 17:34

Maybe his little brother was subbing for him. :lol:

#8 DaleJunior

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 19:27

thank you for checking hoof. I know that every merc stat has a "range" they can fall into, but that was just way too drastic of a drop in stats for it to be that particular merc's range. I've noticed others that were also considerably lower than normal as well. At least you're looking into it, so thanks a lot!

#9 BigGrim

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 19:55

As far as I know, none of the merc stats have been changed - I can check with the team tomorrow though. :)


They've not been changed as far as I am aware, no.

#10 watagashi

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 21:08

Im still betting you got the lvl400 or so instead of the 800 one shown on wikki

#11 yodamus

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 22:13

there were quite a few of the most powerful ones that got nerfed about 3 months ago...erik the frozen wastes got nerfed the most...sir percival of holden got it pretty bad...amras telrunya, dragon lord, ling the green adder, vincent lorgo and there are a few more a cant remember right off hand...it seemed to have hit the best ones at that time...this happen right when one of the new sets of mercs was introduced..i stopped hunting se's since it really got hard to find a big merc like erik the frozen...as even he got nerfed so bad he was not worth it...hope they fix all the nerfing that happened to the olds mercs..

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 01:18

Yeah they were changed a while back, guess it wasn't Hoof or Grim who did it, heh

#13 yodamus

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 14:13

this topic needs to be looked at...bump..far too many of the good old mercs are now worthless and nobody is claiming responabilty..?? why someone nerfed them..? wonder who

#14 BigGrim

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 16:32

Neither Hoofmaster nor I have nerfed them. As far as we are aware, nothing has been done to them.

#15 DaleJunior

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 16:46

Neither Hoofmaster nor I have nerfed them. As far as we are aware, nothing has been done to them.


If that is the case, Grim, how do you explain the difference in stats between the wiki and what I reported? I guess i need to do a screen shot to prove I was looking at the correct one? Okay will do.

#16 BigGrim

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 08:58

Neither Hoofmaster nor I have nerfed them. As far as we are aware, nothing has been done to them.


If that is the case, Grim, how do you explain the difference in stats between the wiki and what I reported? I guess i need to do a screen shot to prove I was looking at the correct one? Okay will do.


Actually, the wiki has been known to be wrong. It is not an accurate guide.

#17 Leos3000

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 10:22

The merc stats were randomly changed around the time you 1st started adding new mercs above level 800 grim. I think it was also around the same time you guys changed creature stats for 1100+ so possibly a new formula was just applied across the board to all the mercs from 1 of those updates.

#18 yodamus

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 13:44

the wiki stats were not wrong...i had hired erik the frozen many many times and many of the other bigger mercs as they were the only way i could kill se's...then one day..about the time you guys made more mercs...the bigger and better old ones got nerfed...100% they got nerfed...somebody did it..many of them got much much worse to the point of not being hirable....dont blame wiki...somebody 100% changed the stats on many of the bigger and better old mercs...someone needs to fess up..so it can be fixed..i dont se hunt anymore due to this..slowly but surely everything i loved about this game is going away- no more titan hunting for me ( lag really bad and players moving across entire screen in a mili-second) ..no more se hunting as all the good mercs got nerfed.....very little arena to join as arena is completly wacked right now ( used to get 1-3 wins a day, now 1-3 wins a week)...hunting hard due to lag...gvg non-existing...my game is close to being completly ruined...i have played everyday since i joined 1 1/2 years ago..so i have a good idea what is going downhill...and mercs have 100% been nerfed by somebody...please get them fixed...stop balming wiki...wiki has the stats that used to be on the mercs...not anymore...

#19 watagashi

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 19:08

hmm, very strange but today I went into alpha and hired out as many mercs as i could find

so far
Field Reedglitter, Ice Fairy has about 1k less stats on each slot than wikki shows and what I remembered her to have
Vincent Lorgo, Ex Gang Member,,higher stats than wikki shows but the stats I remember him having when he first came out (ya dont forget a merc with 17k HP!!!)
Ling the Green Adder Assassin seems to be what i remember her to have but slightly lower than the wikki says (beginning to think the wikki got bad info or rounded up stats)
Erik of the Frozen Wastes,, wikki is pretty much correct with slight differences of less than 1k a stat and hes totally not "nerfed"
Sir Percival of holden,,,within 1k for each stat on wikki

Of course this is ALPHA and not real FS but someone else can feel free to spend millions on researching it here I found that all the mercs are close to the stats wikki showed within 5%.

Also as far as the term "nerfed" this came from the company that makes bats, bullets and stuff out of harmless foam and is a term to coin for something that has become totally harmless with a change,,,these mercs still are well able to provide pleanty of help in fighting

#20 Hoofmaster

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 20:54

The merc stats were randomly changed around the time you 1st started adding new mercs above level 800 grim. I think it was also around the same time you guys changed creature stats for 1100+ so possibly a new formula was just applied across the board to all the mercs from 1 of those updates.


What did you expect the stat ranges on the merc to be?


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