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Official Suggestion : PvP Improvements (rev. 9)


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#21 Josh1404

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:04

A lot of players PvP to make a profit. Making the new item sets bound will drive people away from PvP. Only a small majority will PvP for the sake of it without making any profit from these sets.

#22 RobM

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:05

Players can only attack other players within +/-10 of their virtual level. Players can always attack the top 10 players in their band regardless of if the target is active or within +/-10 of their virtual level.


and assuming they are not on -5 rating correct?

#23 etrigan778

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:05

All good except that the items shouldnt be bound so I cant agree


yup. all good except for that. strongly disagree

#24 LLAP

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:05

I'm not opposed to making the item rewards unbound.


You should be!!


#25 Maehdros

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:05

I like it, I will say tho... has there been thought to keeping pvp protection BUT only allowing it to protect xp? Still allow it to be cheap, but no longer protect gold. Make xp lock even cheaper ( obviously as well)


Seems most wont like this update if protection is gone. Due to liking their xp. I'm just trying to meet in the middle...without getting my head ripped off O.o

#26 Egami

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:06

PvP protection is only thing that helps keeping hunted gold safe.


Check your upgrades... there's a thing called deposits.

#27 DragonLord

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:06

I don't understand why you're ignoring all the posts regarding keeping the opt-out and PvP protection. I also fail to see why you believe that PvP is so much more popular than the game players are telling you it is. Yes, 75% reduction in XP lost is better than nothing, but read the other threads - folk are still not happy with even that loss.

Yes, PvP has a place in the game - NO-ONE is saying different - but by being FORCED to participate (as the above two proposals will achieve) then a lot of players are going to be unhappy - and thus, this proposal will keep getting a lot of DISLIKE or STRONGLY DISLIKE votes and we'll end up at Revision #999 ;).

Leave the opt-out and the PvP protection in place and most levellers (I suspect) won't give two figs about the other changes, 'cos it affects a part of the game they have no interest in. Thus, you can make PvP better for those that like it, without tinkling off everyone else...

#28 donalde

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:06

TO THE ANTI-PVPERS: please focus on the fact that your XP loss is getting reduced by 75%!!!! What more could a whiner ask for? ,oP Try Strongly Agree or Agree to save your precious XP (o0


yeah, but still hunted gold in in target. without guildie banking you, you are instant PvP target. Players who hunt like 30k stamina at time get around 12M gold, so well beyond any protection. If uou remove PvP protection, everyone just dumps their gold as soon as possible, thus inflating market place.

#29 LLAP

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:06

Players can only attack other players within +/-10 of their virtual level. Players can always attack the top 10 players in their band regardless of if the target is active or within +/-10 of their virtual level.


and assuming they are not on -5 rating correct?


You will still beable to be attacked when you are on -5, however there will only be XP loss and gold gain and a cheeky defeat in your logs.
The attacker will gain no rating from you.


#30 vegasmark

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:06

PvP Rating starts at 0 when the PvP Ladder resets


How about it resets to 0 if you have positive rating. If you have negative rating it stays negative. That way everyone in the game doesnt get hit at every reset?

Why remove PvP protection?

Why force this on gamers who dont want it?

Why cant it be fair to ALL the gamers by letting them choose if they want to participate?

#31 etrigan778

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:07

No bound items! That is just pointless. We are trying to make more people get involved. If the things are bound they will play until they get one then never do it again. It is just pointless. You guys are still not listening. Do not remove the opt in/out. Most everyone is saying this. Still strongly disagree and as every new Rev. is basically the same, I will keep disagreeing. PvP needs to be ignored for awhile anyway. Fix GvG!


missed this post. this pretty much says it all, lol

#32 purebreed

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:07

Why does the BB need to be connected to the PVP ladder. I'm disgusted with the idea that I can do an ally a favor and clear him/her from the bb and end up being attacked for ratings for the duration of the ladder.



+1
So now I cant play around on the BB without giving everyone in range the green light the 100 stam me when I go offline.
Bad move, this will widen the divide between full on pvper and the rest of the game.

#33 LLAP

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:08

PvP protection is only thing that helps keeping hunted gold safe.


Check your upgrades... there's a thing called deposits.


alongside Deflect, good hunting set ups able to defeat some PvPers, allys, guildmembers....
the list can go on.


#34 Hoofmaster

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:08

I like it, I will say tho... has there been thought to keeping pvp protection BUT only allowing it to protect xp? Still allow it to be cheap, but no longer protect gold. Make xp lock even cheaper ( obviously as well)


Seems most wont like this update if protection is gone. Due to liking their xp. I'm just trying to meet in the middle...without getting my head ripped off O.o


It seems the issue is more with gold than xp from what I understand.

What about keeping PvP Protection, but still allowing players to attack? Ie. the same as the current revision but xp/gold is protected if you have PvP Protection active.

#35 LLAP

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:09

Why does the BB need to be connected to the PVP ladder. I'm disgusted with the idea that I can do an ally a favor and clear him/her from the bb and end up being attacked for ratings for the duration of the ladder.



+1
So now I cant play around on the BB without giving everyone in range the green light the 100 stam me when I go offline.
Bad move, this will widen the divide between full on pvper and the rest of the game.


There will only be a 20 level differance in the players you do not accept to not be on the ladder list to be 100stammed. There are still over 1200levels you can accept safely!


#36 douglasj

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:09

Leave the opt-out and the PvP protection in place and most levellers


Why would you need pvp protection if you have opt-out

#37 RobM

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:09

A lot of players PvP to make a profit. Making the new item sets bound will drive people away from PvP. Only a small majority will PvP for the sake of it without making any profit from these sets.


Personally I think this would be good because then PvP will be more of a game than just a dot-making activity

#38 donalde

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:09

PvP protection is only thing that helps keeping hunted gold safe.


Check your upgrades... there's a thing called deposits.


yes. so I hunt like 10M gold every time I hunt... anything over 1M gold hand puts me as target (tested before PvP protection was introduced). So, you can do the math. deposit from 1M is 250k. Thus I can deposit 2.5M. To where I should put remaining 7.5M?

#39 iut044

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:09

TO THE ANTI-PVPERS: please focus on the fact that your XP loss is getting reduced by 75%!!!! What more could a whiner ask for? ,oP Try Strongly Agree or Agree to save your precious XP (o0


yeah, but still hunted gold in in target. without guildie banking you, you are instant PvP target. Players who hunt like 30k stamina at time get around 12M gold, so well beyond any protection. If uou remove PvP protection, everyone just dumps their gold as soon as possible, thus inflating market place.

But you can offload on the marketplace when you are hunting and bid on ah specials

#40 Grimwald

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 20:10

Suggestings:
An player with 0 PvPrating can only give you 1 PvPrating.
You can chose to opt-in giving you 5 PvPrating but you will loose the five hits on players outside the board.

Those two suggestions will be enough to prevent non-ladder people becomming farms. If you can only target five targets, why bother doing the actual assaults. Just give them the option to opt-in and lets have their fun.


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