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#21 Wesleysdf

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 15:23

oh god, Im sick of so much crying

#22 fs_rampage200

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 20:57

Heh heh.... Sorry, people.....

#23 fs_rampage200

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 17:57

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I gave my former Style a sort of a new push.... changed the layouts and codex's of my PS and this is the result, i got.... i hope, it's better, than my previous pieces.... i hope, i've made some progress.....Any kind of Criticism is welcome... same as ratings.... and comparisons with my old pieces....

#24 MyCurse

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 18:00

If you don't mind, could you mail me the .psd so I can see what exactly you've done?

#25 fs_rampage200

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 18:01

oh, jeeze.... seriously?

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 18:02

First of all, your whining, and ranting, and putting yourself down is starting to piss me off darlin. I started out as crap in graphics. In fact, you should see some of the beginner pieces of everyone here! So stop whining, because frankly, I am sick of it. Either continue to improve, and take the critisicm, and learn. Or leave this forum. Because I think everyone is tired of you posting on threads just to whine about how bad you are, and how your going to stop making graphics...no wait, keep making graphics...no wait, i suck, stop making graphics....

Keep making graphics if you like it, if your whining about it. stop bloody doing it.

Your new piece is pretty good, play with colours more, give it some more depth. your improving btw. So stop spamming threads with the "woe is me" game.

#27 MyCurse

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 18:03

I think I can 'CnC' it better with the psd. :)

#28 fs_rampage200

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 18:08

First of all, your whining, and ranting, and putting yourself down is starting to tinkle me off darlin. I started out as crap in graphics. In fact, you should see some of the beginner pieces of everyone here! So stop whining, because frankly, I am sick of it. Either continue to improve, and take the critisicm, and learn. Or leave this forum. Because I think everyone is tired of you posting on threads just to whine about how bad you are, and how your going to stop making graphics...no wait, keep making graphics...no wait, i suck, stop making graphics....

Keep making graphics if you like it, if your whining about it. stop bloody doing it.

Your new piece is pretty good, play with colours more, give it some more depth. your improving btw. So stop spamming threads with the "woe is me" game.


i know, people on here hate me... the people, who used to give me inspiration, have either left or been banned for unknown reasons, as well... and because of that, my graphics skills have gone down or disappeared.... i can't even recall, how many of my old friends are on here, anymore... i don't see them in-game or in the forums, anymore... Sorry, if i've ticked your and/or everyone else off.... :? :? :?

#29 MyCurse

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 19:49

Hey man, I just surveyed the .psd and I've come to the conclusion that you've been trying too hard - trying to squeeze in too much into an image, and adding lots of unnecessary effects to top it off. Also, I genuinely think you have some serious scope for improvement if you don't go over the top with the graphics - it's like you're following instructions from a tutorial, doing exactly what's been asked...have you been doing that? I can also now better understand your frustration since you've devoted a respectable amount of time adding more layers and studying photoshop - however you must understand that if the look of the graphic doesn't appeal to people they'll oversee your effort to make it, which is probably the reason you thought people didn't "acknowledge" your graphics. For the others, here's the same sig with very minor tweaks to the layers from me...in fact, I removed quite a few layers and didn't add any new ones...


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I can see you make pretty good graphics if you work on depth, pop out your focal more, treefrog actually explained quite well a few tricks to do that in one of my CnC threads, be sure to check that out. Also, the colour scheme, you seem to be following a monochromatic trend. Use better font, and try and keep it simple. Hope this helps.

#30 fs_rampage200

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 21:32

ok... i just didn't get a single word.... i guess, i'm a newbie at this....

#31 Cassafras

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 21:48

ok... i just didn't get a single word.... i guess, i'm a newbie at this....


Hey I can't blame you, first time I posted up a piece to be critiqued, I didn't understand anything some people said (my responses went along the lines of "what are these gradient maps" and "how to I make depth") :P

What MyCurse is trying to say is that you're trying to do too much to your sigs. From what I can interpret, you seem to be using a lot of layers and trying to use all types of effects.

He's also saying he understands why you feel so frustrated that people don't really appreciate your work. They simply don't see it by just looking at the finished product.

Here's what I have to say on the matter:
Simple is better! What you may think is made in like 300 layers could actually be made in 10. Don't go overboard at making layers.

The goal of every artist is to appeal to the general audience, whether it's just satisfying a customer or trying to make a name among artists. If that goal isn't met, go back and tweak using whatever comments you're given.

I'd write more but I must go socialize!

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#32 fs_rampage200

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 22:36

i understand about making layers and the depth thingy... but i can't get the fact, that why can't i improve in any ways, OTHER than cutting them simpler.... and btw, the background of that, which i turned into 1 layer, is actually about 10-15 layers.... trolololololol.... my style isn't easy to come by.... it's filled with different enhancements.... besides.... my codex filled photoshop system doesn't let me make much simpler graphics... i got all tools in a shortcut bar and it's simple for me to make these.... why shouldn't it be easy for others, who make such amazing graphics... for me, making simpler graphics is hard as hell, since i'm accustomed to this style of graphics... it's not gonna be easy for me to go back to simple ones... and IF i did make simple ones, nobody would appreciate those, either... so the publicity should just cut the crap with the all "let's hate RAMPAGE's work" thing... since this is, how it seems to be... i make simple stuff, people hate on those pieces... i make a bit more "difficult" ones, people hate on me.... MAKE UP YOUR MINDS, for jeebuscakes... this is, what's demotivating me.... people UNABLE to make up their minds, whether i should make simple of complex graphics.... it's not of any help... if i make simple ones, people claim those to be text slaps... NOBODY RESPECTS MY WORK, NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY TO MAKE THEM ACKNOWLEDGE ME!

#33 Wesleysdf

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 22:46

i understand about making layers and the depth thingy... but i can't get the fact, that why can't i improve in any ways, OTHER than cutting them simpler.... and btw, the background of that, which i turned into 1 layer, is actually about 10-15 layers.... trolololololol.... my style isn't easy to come by.... it's filled with different enhancements.... besides.... my codex filled photoshop system doesn't let me make much simpler graphics... i got all tools in a shortcut bar and it's simple for me to make these.... why shouldn't it be easy for others, who make such amazing graphics... for me, making simpler graphics is hard as hell, since i'm accustomed to this style of graphics... it's not gonna be easy for me to go back to simple ones... and IF i did make simple ones, nobody would appreciate those, either... so the publicity should just cut the crap with the all "let's hate RAMPAGE's work" thing... since this is, how it seems to be... i make simple stuff, people hate on those pieces... i make a bit more "difficult" ones, people hate on me.... MAKE UP YOUR MINDS, for jeebuscakes... this is, what's demotivating me.... people UNABLE to make up their minds, whether i should make simple of complex graphics.... it's not of any help... if i make simple ones, people claim those to be text slaps... NOBODY RESPECTS MY WORK, NO MATTER HOW HARD I TRY TO MAKE THEM ACKNOWLEDGE ME!

You have to pick the colours you'll work with. Try 2 or 3 that gives enough contrast to your piece, like yellow for bright colours, red for normal colours and blue fow shadows. Each render have its perfect set of colours to be used as background and effects. Dont use random colours. Also, who the hell would respect someone who filled the forum saying that him works sucks?

#34 MyCurse

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 23:51

Dude that's the reason I actually showed you by editing your OWN .psd. Like I mentioned, I actually removed a lot of unnecessary layers and did a few tweaks to the EXISTING layers without adding any new ones.


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Even though you tried to make yours "complex", it lacks detail and looks messy, while the simplified version has more depth, detail, and is more pleasing to the eye. How would anyone accuse of text slap with that?

#35 fs_rampage200

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 00:11

Dude that's the reason I actually showed you by editing your OWN .psd. Like I mentioned, I actually removed a lot of unnecessary layers and did a few tweaks to the EXISTING layers without adding any new ones.


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Even though you tried to make yours "complex", it lacks detail and looks messy, while the simplified version has more depth, detail, and is more pleasing to the eye. How would anyone accuse of text slap with that?



trust me.... a lot of people have accused me of text slapping.... trust me... i'm sorry, i took your time.... could someone delete this whole topic? i think, i've had it with all of this... nobody will ever see me as a somebody, people will always hate me... so.... no use for me, i guess....

#36 fs_kalenia

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:29

When somethjing is nice already to start with it doesnt need tons of adjustment , just needs to shine even more , try not over complicating what you do , look at the render/stock en picture in your mind what you can all make it into and then find the simple way to make that happen :)

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:35

Dear god please type somewhat legibly! Reading your posts gives me a headache!

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#38 fs_rampage200

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 10:14

Sorry... i guess, that's just my style... if it's really that bad, then i guess, i got no other choice... well, people will always hate me, here, so... i could aswell leave.... time to start violating the fucking rules, to get banned.....


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