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#1 Leos3000

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 19:13

Looks awesome I will probably buy 1 later. Had a small suggestion though.

Overkill in the 2nd option does not really fit at all as it seemed you were trying to make it for pvp.
I would suggest changing that buff to either coordinated attack or defense of the same level :)

#2 Maehdros

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 19:19

Me thinks cows gone home for the weekend now.


But i do agree..switch the overkill over to the other "leveling potion" OR replace the buff with one as leos suggests

#3 grimnok

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 21:32

Is someone going to spend a 300 FSP pot on PVP? If you tell me yes, I might even believe you.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 21:35

Is someone going to spend a 300 FSP pot on PVP? If you tell me yes, I might even believe you.



I strongly doubt it. It does look smexy tho :lol:

#5 grimnok

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 21:48

Is someone going to spend a 300 FSP pot on PVP? If you tell me yes, I might even believe you.



I strongly doubt it. It does look smexy tho :lol:


If HCS is going to make chests like this, where 1 choice is obviously going to be used 95+% of the time, they might consider making the 'bad' choice result in 2/3/4/5 copies of the potion.

#6 Maehdros

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 21:51

If HCS is going to make chests like this, where 1 choice is obviously going to be used 95+% of the time, they might consider making the 'bad' choice result in 2/3/4/5 copies of the potion.



Agreed totally :)


One big deal ( lib 750), or a few smaller deals( pvp pots or lesser pots whatever they may be)

#7 sweetlou

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 21:53

Overkill in the 2nd option does not really fit at all as it seemed you were trying to make it for pvp.

OCD at work? You only get 1 potion, no matter which item you extract.

The point I'd like to make is that I find it ironic that the devs are having to continually increase the incentives to donate while they continue to allow loyalty potions to be adversely effected by Sealed and Fist Fight. Spell Leech and Spell Breaker were stopped from having an effect but it's about time the devs finish protecting donators from buffs they have recently instituted.

One big deal ( lib 750), or a few smaller deals( pvp pots or lesser pots whatever they may be)

Players know this, devs don't.

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#8 Whammies

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 22:21

Overkill in the 2nd option does not really fit at all as it seemed you were trying to make it for pvp.

OCD at work? You only get 1 potion, no matter which item you extract.

The point I'd like to make is that I find it ironic that the devs are having to continually increase the incentives to donate while they continue to allow loyalty potions to be adversely effected by Sealed and Fist Fight. Spell Leech and Spell Breaker were stopped from having an effect but it's about time the devs finish protecting donators from buffs they have recently instituted.

One big deal ( lib 750), or a few smaller deals( pvp pots or lesser pots whatever they may be)

Players know this, devs don't.


2nd forum topic i clicked on and the same msg is there. lol

#9 Maehdros

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 22:23

Hmm 100% chance of last ditch... would be awesome for a big guild war :twisted: Unbreakable unleechable super pot :shock:

#10 cramble27

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 00:31

Is someone going to spend a 300 FSP pot on PVP? If you tell me yes, I might even believe you.


I doubt it, although a PvP player might donate to the game to get the potion. Although then they should just sell it for 300 fsps :lol:

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 01:04

I personally Don't understand why people are paying so much for this potion? I mean, dont get me wrong, LIB750 is awesome, which is basically 75% activation rate on librarian, but why is the potion going for 75-100 FSP more than the AL 750 potion... You would get more XP from AL 750 than LIB 750 right?

#12 evilbry

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 01:05

I personally Don't understand why people are paying so much for this potion? I mean, dont get me wrong, LIB750 is awesome, which is basically 75% activation rate on librarian, but why is the potion going for 75-100 FSP more than the AL 750 potion... You would get more XP from AL 750 than LIB 750 right?

supply and demand. Basic economics.

#13 vastilos

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 01:09

well, the AL potion increases exp, the Lib potion doubles exp. What do you think players would deem more valuable?

#14 ironcire

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 01:21

I personally Don't understand why people are paying so much for this potion? I mean, dont get me wrong, LIB750 is awesome, which is basically 75% activation rate on librarian, but why is the potion going for 75-100 FSP more than the AL 750 potion... You would get more XP from AL 750 than LIB 750 right?

supply and demand. Basic economics.



I'm one the games' more consistent merchants so I understand how supply and demand work, very well actually, i was really looking for less of a smug reply, and more of an actual thought on the subject as to which would give the most XP or be more valuable to players. Any thoughts on the matter are welcomed.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:08

I personally Don't understand why people are paying so much for this potion? I mean, dont get me wrong, LIB750 is awesome, which is basically 75% activation rate on librarian, but why is the potion going for 75-100 FSP more than the AL 750 potion... You would get more XP from AL 750 than LIB 750 right?

supply and demand. Basic economics.



I'm one the games' more consistent merchants so I understand how supply and demand work, very well actually, i was really looking for less of a smug reply, and more of an actual thought on the subject as to which would give the most XP or be more valuable to players. Any thoughts on the matter are welcomed.



Basically if someone has the AL 750, the Lib 750 will give double the xp so its basically a free doubler that activates on AL....For those who have an AL 750 it is definitely worth getting the lib pot.....could basicaly be a free triple xp event not including the 63% chance of not wasting moving stam.....which means more xp not including sacrifice 300 . Plus im not even taking distil 150 into account.

#16 evilbry

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:46

I personally Don't understand why people are paying so much for this potion? I mean, dont get me wrong, LIB750 is awesome, which is basically 75% activation rate on librarian, but why is the potion going for 75-100 FSP more than the AL 750 potion... You would get more XP from AL 750 than LIB 750 right?

supply and demand. Basic economics.



I'm one the games' more consistent merchants so I understand how supply and demand work, very well actually, i was really looking for less of a smug reply, and more of an actual thought on the subject as to which would give the most XP or be more valuable to players. Any thoughts on the matter are welcomed.

I'm glad you deem yourself to be an expert on matters.

The simple truth is, There was a saturation of AL 750 containers and FSP as part of the xmas offer. We now have a new offer for a very limited time on a new container with a high value pot included. There are many less of these available and people are wanting to stock up, like those choosing not to donate on this occasion for whatever reason.

Take also into account it is after xmas and many people/families will have credit card headaches after Christmas. Chances are, while the offer is appealing, a lot of people who want to donate, simply cant.

It's a player run market, fed by supply and demand. If the demand is there and people are going to pay 300 fsp for a limited supply container, then anyone who lets one go cheaper is just cheating themselves out of fsp.

#17 RD1542

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 04:11

is quite possible that i would be one of the meatheads who would use this potion for pvp purposes,. and in saying so, if i might make a small suggestion also to add to the overkill being changed. to something more pvp based, could you change the beserk to fury, many of pvp players who would use this pot also have points in attack, and would leave the same damage bonus as the bzk is now.


Hmm 100% chance of last ditch... would be awesome for a big guild war :twisted: Unbreakable unleechable super pot :shock:



ouch, in theory 2 people who had it would never see the end of a battle? unless sealed or fistfight.? awesome..

you guys are getting close to some nice pvp pack options on donating bonuses :)

#18 evilbry

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 04:37

Hmm 100% chance of last ditch... would be awesome for a big guild war :twisted: Unbreakable unleechable super pot :shock:



ouch, in theory 2 people who had it would never see the end of a battle? unless sealed or fistfight.? awesome..

you do realise LD can only kick in once for each player per combat right? :P

#19 Necra

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 05:03

if a change was agreed upon, i would propose changing it to a terrorize lvl 500 or *drools* our 1st juiced up "smashing hammer lvl 300" potions. :)

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 07:59

nah this pots are 2 weak.. ill wait few more months for conserve 2000.

thats how it works no?


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