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#21 grimnok

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 14:14

If epics were " so over powering" why is it they are garbage and no one uses them anymore to hunt with anymore?


If they were so useless, why have the recently added Epics been warmly received? They are not overpowering. Not anymore, however they are still massively powerful individual items.


I'm not going to try to convince you to make epic sets. But you need to realize that in fact, the new epics are not good for hunting or PVP. That doesn't make them bad, though. Anyone can do the math on these, and losing out on Coordinated Attack/Defense, primarily, and secondarily using up a potential slot for Smashing Hammer/Keen Edge, you can see they are not even close to being 'good' for hunting or PVP.

#22 KitiaraLi

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 15:46

Good thing the game offers other things to do then :)

Where are the arena ppl on this? The epics no good for that anymore??

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#23 BigGrim

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 15:49

Good thing the game offers other things to do then :)


This.

#24 KingHomer

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 19:23

Good thing the game offers other things to do then :)

Where are the arena ppl on this? The epics no good for that anymore??


We're here! I have the 900 Terra Elemental shield...

Pros:

1. +3 stam gain
2. great in arena
3. doesn't make me look fat

Cons:

1. Not used in hunting
2. Not used in hunting
3. not used in hunting

Yes, it will go down in value over time, but realize I'm gaining roughly 3 fsp in stam per day with it (or 1 fsp per day over WW), so all it has to do is lose less than 1 fsp per day in value relative to the Ward and I'm better off with it.

#25 vamunre

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 03:15

1st things first, epics are not over powered. I repeat not over powered. All they really bring to the table is a small stamina gain. FS is all about max stamina and your current stamina. I hate to say it but as far as free games goes, Why would should anybody stick with this game when a decent portion of us IE the the levelers can play only once or twice a week? All because of a lack of stamina! I can play at least 50 other games all day long if I want to level. The only way we get more current stamina is to spend FSP's or have EPICS.

If they are sooooooooooooo over powered. Then the pvpers shouldn't be hardly be able to touch somebody that is wearing nothing but EPICS. Kind of like how you cant leach an epic potion.

THEN they would be over powered. I could only imagine the demand they would have then if that was the case.

SECOND thing, when the thought of making them count as sets, Smashing hammer was only a dream, Coordinated Attack/Defense was a wish. The epics we have were once awesome for stats. Now they are only pretty good. considering the buffs we can use.

#26 DragonLord

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 04:11

All they really bring to the table is a small stamina gain.


The max stamina gain a player can get pre-epics is 90 / hr (excluding relic bonuses). With a full set of the best epics (not titan gear), a player can get a stamina gain of 113 / hr. That's marginally over 25% increment. So yes, just a "small" stamina gain - NOT.

If they are sooooooooooooo over powered. Then the pvpers shouldn't be hardly be able to touch somebody that is wearing nothing but EPICS.


Over-powered does not just mean att/def/arm/dam/hp stats as well you know, it's about all the stats bestowed taken as a whole. Epic sets would mean, naturally, boosts to all stats - so, in addition to the "base" stats, there'd be bonuses to the stam gain/ xp gain and gold gains where applicable - so making them even more over-powered.

SECOND thing, when the thought of making them count as sets, Smashing hammer was only a dream, Coordinated Attack/Defense was a wish. The epics we have were once awesome for stats. Now they are only pretty good. considering the buffs we can use.


The overwhelming vote for epic sets was a NO before SH - so, given that SH and CoAt would make them even more powerful, do you think the vote would change to a YES ? - I don't think so. But, anyways, fortunately BG has said they're not going to happen...

#27 mizer35

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 15:56

Epics are normally used in arenas, and sometimes PvP/GvG. I use epics to hunt, as well. From level 100-299, people should be using KKH , skally boots, to hunt. I have gotten 8k damage at around lv 250 from using epics....at that level, 8k damage is extremely high. although coord atk does not work, with some sets SH will work.

These new epics should stay in the game, especially the new 200 ring. It adds a new spectrum to arena, since it gives bonus armor......no one uses RoRD for arena because at 200 you can use fushi set instead. the 200 ring will be great with some armor sets :P

As for the cost, I do agree that 1000's of RP used to make these epics is sort of ridiculous.

NO to epic sets as well

#28 mizer35

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 15:57

Many of you may believe that epics aren't normally used in pvp because they break coord atk/def. However, I have successfully defended from attacks using a wickers before :D

#29 Bleltch

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 16:27

They're used quite often in pvp. I gold stomp players wearing multiple epics all the time. :D

#30 Maehdros

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 16:38

They're used quite often in pvp. I gold stomp players wearing multiple epics all the time. :D


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#31 grimnok

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 16:49

They're used quite often in pvp. I gold stomp players wearing multiple epics all the time. :D


:mrgreen:


This is true, they do make good bait for pvp.


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