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#21 paingwin

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:01


"pvpers" are less than 1% of the community


According to you? Many people like to do both leveling AND PvP. Even if you were just talking about Hardcore PvPers, it would be greater than that. don't insult people with that rubbish.


no, its quite a bit higher than a measly 1%. there are many many more pvp players than you seem to think. and yet again they cater to only 1 group and drive even more players from the game. hope you all are happy, this game is officially just a once in a while stop for me, once again.

#22 fs_robotussin

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:01

yay! we got "hello kitty: island adventure" back!!!

#23 fs_liuskoj

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:02

This medal was specifically asked as something for offboard hits. I'm just out of words right now. IF YOU WANT TO KILL OFFBOARD PVP THEN DO IT, JUST TAKE IT OFF FROM THE GAME, DON'T BEAT AROUND THE BUSH AND GIVE PEOPLE FALSE HOPE. Sorry for the caps, that's just I how I feel. Saw the update and logged off. Cya later, if I manage to find a reason to come back.

#24 Bleltch

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:02


"pvpers" are less than 1% of the community


According to you? Many people like to do both leveling AND PvP. Even if you were just talking about Hardcore PvPers, it would be greater than that. don't insult people with that rubbish.


no, its quite a bit higher than a measly 1%. there are many many more pvp players than you seem to think. and yet again they cater to only 1 group and drive even more players from the game. hope you all are happy, this game is officially just a once in a while stop for me, once again.

One step forward, two steps back. :(

#25 krypt118

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:02

"pvpers" are less than 1% of the community



I think thats highly in-accurate

#26 wolfgeng

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:03

Well... Other than changing the global quest tiers, I don't have much positive to say. The smasher medal was a great update to the game, you guys rejuvenated the bounty board and revived "Pvp" (I'm not even sure I can call it that). Last time I checked, being 100 stammed by a few people getting a medal isn't even close to a delevel, and even so, you could just buy pvp protection or exp locks and it will be the end of your worries. I haven't been here too long, but I can already see you have adjusted the game so far that any minor inconvenience of levelers trumps the entire pvp system, I urge you guys to reconsider your decision and I hope that you guys will listen to our feedback.

#27 Josh1404

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:04

The least you could have done is give it a fair trial! The initial hitting was over the novelty of a new medal. That would of died down... I for one am very disappointed with the cows! And they wonder why this game dies more and more everyday.

#28 akasha420

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:05

I disagree with this update, I think if you don't like pvp then learn to protect yourself or buy pvp protection. You finally had the game where it was fun yesterday now I log in to see only bounty attacks and pvp ladder attacks are acceptable. I thought we had the right to pvp if we wanted why would you limit its potential? By the way for the record I play all aspects of the game minus gathering.

#29 krypt118

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:07

Not sure how i feel with this one. I thought the Smasher Medal was way to easy to obtain. The Ladder does provide a better challenge for PvPers that actually want a challenge. But the Ladder needs to be left alone, Allow 100 stams every hour with XP/gold loss. After all it is a suppose to be challenge not a cake walk.


Please add a Gold Thief Medal :twisted:

#30 fs_robotussin

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:09

for a hot minute there i thought that the cows actually took a great step towards integrating PvP better into the game. as it stood after the smasher update there was a door open that would allow more and more players a chance to see that they can have fun PvPing. more and more people would have realized that getting hit now and then isn't the end of the world. they would have had the chance to swing the hammer back at some people all in the name of fun and character progress. since this has been rolled back to only the BB and ladder the cows have once again built a wall between the "levelers" and the "PvPers". anyone afraid of getting hit and handing out a hit is safe once again!


the fact that steam erupts from the ears of SO MANY PLAYERS HERE when someone takes a little XP blows my mind. XP that literally takes a moment of smashing some number keys to regain!!

#31 Placeboo

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:09


"pvpers" are less than 1% of the community


According to you? Many people like to do both leveling AND PvP. Even if you were just talking about Hardcore PvPers, it would be greater than that. don't insult people with that rubbish.


look at pvp ladder

#32 JBKing89

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:10

how does changing the smasher medal kill PvP?

you can still attack players, can't you? with either 10 stamina or 100 stamina.

People can still be placed on the bounty board, correct?

the PvP ladder is still there, right?

You just don't earn a medal now. Was that the only reason to PvP?

#33 Maehdros

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:10

Ladder hits... will they still be limited to 5 100 stams per reset now as per the new system coming soon? Or is the ladder even needed to be changed now? ( gloat and honor arent needed for rating anyways)


I highly suggest you introduce the new buff changes soon, gloat will increase gold hitting and bounties..

#34 avvakum

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:10


"pvpers" are less than 1% of the community


According to you? Many people like to do both leveling AND PvP. Even if you were just talking about Hardcore PvPers, it would be greater than that. don't insult people with that rubbish.


look at pvp ladder


look at Poll results - 45% ;)

#35 Cheezzhead

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:10

Well... Other than changing the global quest tiers, I don't have much positive to say. The smasher medal was a great update to the game, you guys rejuvenated the bounty board and revived "Pvp" (I'm not even sure I can call it that). Last time I checked, being 100 stammed by a few people getting a medal isn't even close to a delevel, and even so, you could just buy pvp protection or exp locks and it will be the end of your worries. I haven't been here too long, but I can already see you have adjusted the game so far that any minor inconvenience of levelers trumps the entire pvp system, I urge you guys to reconsider your decision and I hope that you guys will listen to our feedback.


The first constructive comment in this thread, even if I don't completely agree with it. It's laughable how lower-levels are conducting themselves in a better manner than some of the high-levelled players :lol:

#36 volcom

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:11

good thing i got my medal 5 minutes before this update :P lol

#37 Ali

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:12

Very disappointed in this decision. When I joined FS, close to 4 years ago, you (the Cows) made no beans about the fact that this was a game that featured PvP, and that this was something potential players had to learn to accept if they were going to play here. They didn't have to LIKE it, but they had to accept it. If you played long enough, you were going to get hit, and lose gold and xp. There was no opt-out (nor were there any plans to implement one), and EVERYBODY was a potential target.

Fast forward 4 years. You can only hit people within a tiny, narrow range of levels, even if you have the gear and skills to defeat someone much higher in level. People with deep pockets can opt out of being hit altogether. There are no consequences for hitting someone in either arena or ladder (the only two formalized competitions for PvP) and there is no formal recognition of PvP as it was originally.

You finally created a medal that LOOKED like it was going to be a way to acknowledge people for dedicating time, stam, and effort to old-school PvP, but a few players complained, so your flip-flopped almost immediately. You ever consider coming to the U.S and running for President?

I'm not denying that there were shortcomings in "traditional" PvP, and abuses of the same. And you need to do what you need to do to keep the player base happy. I may be in the minority here, but I'm sure I'm far from alone in thinking that risk-free PvP is just not as interesting or as enjoyable as traditional hits. Excluding traditional PvP from a "PvP smasher medal" is a slap in the face to those who don't care for the sterilized environment of Ladder. You're effectively saying that because they don't see a point to GvG without consequences, they aren't "real PvPers" and accordingly won't be honored as are people who do "the other brand of PvP."

#38 iut044

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:12

As well as this, we've also tweaked the target for the current Global Quest so that each tier will now require 1.5 million kills instead of 2 million as we feel this target is more achievable! :)

Are you keeping the qualifier at 1500 kills?

#39 Josh1404

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:13


"pvpers" are less than 1% of the community


According to you? Many people like to do both leveling AND PvP. Even if you were just talking about Hardcore PvPers, it would be greater than that. don't insult people with that rubbish.


look at pvp ladder


The pvp ladder does not reflect real pvp! There are lots more who steal gold or hit outside of the ladder! If you saw the BB yesterday back when it was alive there were lots of people on there all day.

#40 wolfgeng

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:14

"pvpers" are less than 1% of the community



Oh my.... If pvp is honestly less than 1% of the community why wouldn't HCS just take out PVP completely? Why don't they just screw every aspect of the game other than leveling, that would make for a swell game wouldn't it?

It's all about revenue anyways, Pvp is an integral part of the game and I doubt that being 100 stammed a few times would suddenly make everyone quit... It would probably gain revenue considering the FSP going into bounty tickets and pvp protection.

Fill in these blanks accordingly and you have a recipe of exclusion, racism, sexism, and hatred. It's ignorance like this that is not only destroying this game, but the entire world.

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