Update v2.03
#61
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:42
The gold thief medal does actually make a lot more sense than a 'random act of violence' medal though. At least people would know it was 'partly' their fault for not taking better care of their gold while the vultures were circling.
#62
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:43
Honestly didn't really see this lasting very long...
The golf thief medal does actually make a lot more sense than a 'random act of violence' medal though. At least people would know it was 'partly' their fault for not taking better care of their gold while the vultures were circling.
do you honestly think thats how the levelling community would see it
#63
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:46
#64
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:48
Do you honestly think thats how the levelling community would see it
I think that HCS would have to have Tang remove that gold search feature from the FSH, but yes, besides it's what Hoof wants, not levellers. During the last IRC chat there was a HUGE showing of pvp oriented players, all pretty much parroting each other and backing each other up, they got some things they wanted, some things, like the BB update they tried to shout down but Hoof actually has a good 'outsiders' perspective when it comes to what is good for the *whole game*. Players getting annoyed/leaving because the amount they get attacked goes up by orders of magnitude = not really good for the game.
#65
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:48
That is great to hear but while you show willingness to comprimise and allow another part of the game to happen as it should others are sadly too ignorant!
Well i guess you can say i am what ever im in the mood for lol. How ever im all for what is best for the game. The Smasher Medal was way to easy to get. I did smack 20 players and some how it only registered 13 o.O. I was bountied 3 times and lost .7 of a lvl and received 3 thank you messages. So a Gold Thief Medal sounds way more of a challenge and honesty lets face it PvPers are gonna try and take your Gold anyway so why not a Medal
#66
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:49
I was hoping for keeping normal pvp attack count for medal even hourly BUT with 1 bounty for every single attack... but seems everything happened different than we discussed on IRC chat...
Shin, the BB update was never directly related to the smasher medal as even from the very beginning hourly hits were never going to be counted.
The BB update was simply to solve the problem of people hitting risk free from the point after their initial attack until their bounty was cleared.
#67
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:50
If you seriously like your pvp and wish to show dominace over others. attack other known pvpers.
The last time i played in pvp heres how it went
my guildmate was 100 stamed every hour for 4 days
he placed bounty
i took bounty
i hit guy once 10 stamina
i got bountied
lost 5 lvls(due to his pvp guild)
i finished his bounty , he lost 1 lvl
i figured pvp was not fun for me. as i waited 5 days to regain my lvls in something i lost in 20 mins.
anyway. to sum up this rambling.
some players do not wish to pvp
if you wish to truly pvp then pvp others who like to pvp.(a lack of a medal i shouldn't stop you.
it seems pvpers just want more rewards for their attacks(medals gold,new gear to invent and sell at insane prices)
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#68
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:51
Honestly didn't really see this lasting very long...
The gold thief medal does actually make a lot more sense than a 'random act of violence' medal though. At least people would know it was 'partly' their fault for not taking better care of their gold while the vultures were circling.
+1
- For what its worth, not all levelers were complaining about the medal, just some of us wished the buff changes had gone in first and that there was a grace period between an announcement on the smasher medal and it being added so they could get ready.

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#69
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:52
Do you honestly think thats how the levelling community would see it
I think that HCS would have to have Tang remove that gold search feature from the FSH, but yes, besides it's what Hoof wants, not levellers. During the last IRC chat there was a HUGE showing of pvp oriented players, all pretty much parroting each other and backing each other up, they got some things they wanted, some things, like the BB update they tried to shout down but Hoof actually has a good 'outsiders' perspective when it comes to what is good for the *whole game*. Players getting annoyed/leaving because the amount they get attacked goes up by orders of magnitude = not really good for the game.
what did pvpers get Doom?
and yes zukira the buffs definately should of been installed first
#70
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:52
Honestly didn't really see this lasting very long...
The gold thief medal does actually make a lot more sense than a 'random act of violence' medal though. At least people would know it was 'partly' their fault for not taking better care of their gold while the vultures were circling.
+1
#71
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:55
Do you honestly think thats how the levelling community would see it
I think that HCS would have to have Tang remove that gold search feature from the FSH, but yes, besides it's what Hoof wants, not levellers. During the last IRC chat there was a HUGE showing of pvp oriented players, all pretty much parroting each other and backing each other up, they got some things they wanted, some things, like the BB update they tried to shout down but Hoof actually has a good 'outsiders' perspective when it comes to what is good for the *whole game*. Players getting annoyed/leaving because the amount they get attacked goes up by orders of magnitude = not really good for the game.
what did pvpers get Doom?
and yes zukira the buffs definately should of been installed first
Pvp'rs got buffs that they wanted changed to pretty much exactly what they wanted them changed to, quite a few of them too. They got a shiny new medal, albeit it 'might' mean you have to actually hit your fellow pvp'rs to get it but hey, that's not 'all' that bad is it?
Levellers got slightly better protection via the BB, that was all. Overall I'd say the pvp players 'wants' came out ahead on that night.
#72
Posted 30 March 2012 - 17:59
#73
Posted 30 March 2012 - 18:01
Pvp'rs got buffs that they wanted changed to pretty much exactly what they wanted them changed to, quite a few of them too. They got a shiny new medal, albeit it 'might' mean you have to actually hit your fellow pvp'rs to get it but hey, that's not 'all' that bad is it?
Levellers got slightly better protection via the BB, that was all. Overall I'd say the pvp players 'wants' came out ahead on that night.
True, but they usually get short shifted, and we have to remember it takes all sorts. Some of the buff changes would make it less intrusive ultimately on those of us who dont PvP and others only apply to PvPing in the first place.
On a side note, I hope doing dev chat in game goes well. I look forward to seeing how that plays out.

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#74
Posted 30 March 2012 - 18:02
I would like to see a Poll for a Gold Thief Medal, Possibly an in game poll.
there is no point to it friend, it would just end up 50/50 again
#75
Posted 30 March 2012 - 18:02
That is great to hear but while you show willingness to comprimise and allow another part of the game to happen as it should others are sadly too ignorant!
Well i guess you can say i am what ever im in the mood for lol. How ever im all for what is best for the game. The Smasher Medal was way to easy to get. I did smack 20 players and some how it only registered 13 o.O. I was bountied 3 times and lost .7 of a lvl and received 3 thank you messages. So a Gold Thief Medal sounds way more of a challenge and honesty lets face it PvPers are gonna try and take your Gold anyway so why not a Medal
Whether it was easy to get or not was not the issue for me. The huge positive for me was seeing the life on the BB and pvp being brought back to life for a short time. I loved that, now that has been stopped. All because the levelers are too ignorant to accept there are other parts of the game that others like to participate in. I had little stamina so have not swung much, ive been bountied more for the ones i have made. Although i miss the former version of the smasher medal i agree a gold theft medal would be pleasing. But i can see that getting shot down as well.
#76
Posted 30 March 2012 - 18:03
True, but they usually get short shifted, and we have to remember it takes all sorts. Some of the buff changes would make it less intrusive ultimately on those of us who don't PvP and others only apply to PvPing in the first place.
On a side note, I hope doing dev chat in game goes well. I look forward to seeing how that plays out.
Oh I wasn't really trying to indicate anything other than pvp took up the majority of the discussion, with the pvp players getting almost everything they asked for.
#77
Posted 30 March 2012 - 18:07
I would like to see a Poll for a Gold Thief Medal, Possibly an in game poll.
there is no point to it friend, it would just end up 50/50 again
Well we can only try. I see more players getting behind a Gold Thief Medal then the Smasher medal . Gold Thiefing is PvP, as long as its done right. Player must have over a certain amount, you get extra points for jack potting etc.... something like that.
#78
Posted 30 March 2012 - 18:10
I don't pvp after all but I have to say this much, the PvPers are seeming more likely to consider everyone when they suggest changes, not just scream for nerfing an aspect because they dont like it or dont participate in it.
...Unlike some groups within the leveler 'clique'
That is just my own observation though. Not everyone is going to come away from these sorts of discussions with the same view as I have.

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#79
Posted 30 March 2012 - 18:14
aye I know Doom. I'm just trying to balance it a little and point out that levelers were considered in the adjustments proposed. The chat really came across as being fair minded. To me at least it seemed that way.
I don't pvp after all but I have to say this much, the PvPers are seeming more likely to consider everyone when they suggest changes, not just scream for nerfing an aspect because they dont like it or dont participate in it.
...Unlike some groups within the leveler 'clique'
That is just my own observation though. Not everyone is going to come away from these sorts of discussions with the same view as I have.
and there is the problem Zukira,,, pvpers participate in all aspects of the game whereas the majority of the leveling community refuse to even consider trying all parts
#80
Posted 30 March 2012 - 18:15
Just implementing the honor buff to save some XP would have already done a lot to make a weekly hit take less, and a lot of levelers would have maybe noticed how little they were actually losing, besides maybe getting interested in doing a little pvp themselves.
Just ONE hit back would have given them a 1% prestige, enough to probably get a lot of the lost XP back on their next run.
Implementing everything at the same time, and announcing it, would have done more than this back and forth trying to keep everyone happy, even the most un-informed levelers.
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