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#61 Hoofmaster

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 23:06

what happens if a player gets the most kills (but not 50% + 1 kill) and then leaves the guild? will he get the drop OR will the guild get the TKP? in my opinion it should be the guild since this can be easily exploited !!!


The titan kills don't transfer to the player - they would still be the guild's titan kills.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 23:11

How about creating a new "currency" that guildless players can earn that are the equivalent of TKP's ?

That being said, not too sure it's going to be a major issue because, I suspect, given the changes, there'll be a lot more folk participating in titan hunting and therefore the likelyhood of a guildless player getting the most kills is diminished.


I think it may overcomplicate it. If it does become an issue (which I don't think it will), we can look at changing it to work the same way as guilds (i.e. add TKP for guildless players).

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 23:23

So could we also get the glitch out that puts on us cooldown even when we don't secure or have enough TKP to buy the item? Pretty please with sugar on top? lol.

Seriously... I was practically crying earlier with the Kraken... far away so close... ,oP


It looks to be working correctly now :)

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 23:30

Being in a guild for 7 days before you can hunt a titan is stupid....you don't have to wait 7 days to gvg, so why should you have to wait 7 days to titan hunt?

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 23:31

Currently if a guildless player achieves the most kills on a titan they will receive the item (Titan Kill Points are only allocated to guilds).

What we could do however is apply any of the guild's active titan cooldowns to any player who leaves the guild. What do you think?

We also look over the code tonight to make sure the titan cooldowns are applied properly :)

As I mentioned before, guildless folk should get the same benefits of the game that those in guilds do. That being said, leaving a guild to kill a titan, while legally allowed (at this time), doesn't strike me as having a high ethical standard behind it. I really don't know what the solution might be, except that it shouldn't reflect on those who haven't ever been in a guild, or have been guildless for a period of time, lets arbitrarily say a week. I'll leave it up to the FS community to decide. (They have uncommonly good common sense you know.....)

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 23:37

Being in a guild for 7 days before you can hunt a titan is stupid....you don't have to wait 7 days to gvg, so why should you have to wait 7 days to titan hunt?


It's to prevent guild hopping to circumvent the titan cooldown.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 00:26

Sorry Hoof and HCS.. but i think its disgusting that guildless players are rewarded for being guildless...

I solo'd a much harder titan with arguably better competition and got 1st place with 1202 (a good 500 kills more than the dude on kraken) and all i got was extra TKP!!

But BECAUSE im in a guild, i dont get the drop!! I really dont see how this is fair at all!

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 00:33

Sorry Hoof and HCS.. but i think its disgusting that guildless players are rewarded for being guildless...

I solo'd a much harder titan with arguably better competition and got 1st place with 1202 (a good 500 kills more than the dude on kraken) and all i got was extra TKP!!

But BECAUSE im in a guild, i dont get the drop!! I really dont see how this is fair at all!


I don't see it as player's being rewarded for being guildless. We've not made any changes to how items are rewarded from titans. It's not really been an issue before, so I don't see why it is now?

If you are a guildless player, and you don't get the most kills, you get nothing, whereas if you are in a guild, you get Titan Kill Points.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 00:35

Sorry Hoof and HCS.. but i think its disgusting that guildless players are rewarded for being guildless...

I solo'd a much harder titan with arguably better competition and got 1st place with 1202 (a good 500 kills more than the dude on kraken) and all i got was extra TKP!!

But BECAUSE im in a guild, i dont get the drop!! I really dont see how this is fair at all!


Because you're in a guild, whatever you do is for the benefit of the GUILD, right? You could always go and solo titans, but face it, at your level how many can you solo hit and win? Do you really wanna leave your guild, kill a titan, get a drop and then wait 7 days to be able to kill it again, all the while missing the benefits of being in a guild for those 7 days? I'm sorry I just don't think it's that big a deal. lol. Like Hoof said, it's never been a problem until now, so why should it be one now? If anything it's better because under the pre-cooldown system an excellent solo titan hunter could go and solo and win and get as many drops as they wanted. It's just no one ever did it. At least this limits it to one titan per week of each type. Plus it's a gamble.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 00:36

Sorry Hoof and HCS.. but i think its disgusting that guildless players are rewarded for being guildless...

I solo'd a much harder titan with arguably better competition and got 1st place with 1202 (a good 500 kills more than the dude on kraken) and all i got was extra TKP!!

But BECAUSE im in a guild, i dont get the drop!! I really dont see how this is fair at all!


I don't see it as player's being rewarded for being guildless. We've not made any changes to how items are rewarded from titans. It's not really been an issue before, so I don't see why it is now?

If you are a guildless player, and you don't get the most kills, you get nothing, whereas if you are in a guild, you get Titan Kill Points.


You know whats funny.. THIS is actually tempting me to go solo and titan hunt.. to leave a guild that i want to be in .. just so i can get easier fsps and support my guild from the outside.. MUCH MUCH easier.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 00:38

Sorry Hoof and HCS.. but i think its disgusting that guildless players are rewarded for being guildless...

I solo'd a much harder titan with arguably better competition and got 1st place with 1202 (a good 500 kills more than the dude on kraken) and all i got was extra TKP!!

But BECAUSE im in a guild, i dont get the drop!! I really dont see how this is fair at all!


I don't see it as player's being rewarded for being guildless. We've not made any changes to how items are rewarded from titans. It's not really been an issue before, so I don't see why it is now?

If you are a guildless player, and you don't get the most kills, you get nothing, whereas if you are in a guild, you get Titan Kill Points.


You know whats funny.. THIS is actually tempting me to go solo and titan hunt.. to leave a guild that i want to be in .. just so i can get easier fsps and support my guild from the outside.. MUCH MUCH easier.


I wish you all the best of luck!! May you solo secure all of the titans you can!! lol.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 00:56

I wish you all the best of luck!! May you solo secure all of the titans you can!! lol.


Haha.. all this needless arguing from someone who hasnt even got a bronze titan hunting medal.. come back when u understand how easily possible it is for someone to solo a titan without a guild..

especially when the big guilds like ffs, ttf, a-team etc are being put on cooldown for 7 days after every secure .. just aim for a titan they are on cooldown for.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:02


I wish you all the best of luck!! May you solo secure all of the titans you can!! lol.


Haha.. all this needless arguing from someone who hasnt even got a bronze titan hunting medal.. come back when u understand how easily possible it is for someone to solo a titan without a guild..

especially when the big guilds like ffs, ttf, a-team etc are being put on cooldown for 7 days after every secure .. just aim for a titan they are on cooldown for.


just curious about the scenario but wouldnt it only take any guild out there in the game to decide to go for it and if you havent got over the 50% kills then you could lose it anyway?

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:04

just curious about the scenario but wouldnt it only take any guild out there in the game to decide to go for it and if you havent got over the 50% kills then you could lose it anyway?


You are right to an extent.. but imagine that there a few players online, not exactly peak time..

FFS, TTF, A-team.. whoever else who is big in titan hunting guilds nowadays are on cooldown on that specific titan and it pops out..

few of the 'smaller' guilds go for it and one fast-ish guildless player.. all he would need would be 700 - 1000 kills to achieve first place and he would get a drop.. unlike the smaller guilds who would need 50.1% .. so possible 1600 - 2500 kills.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:11

just curious about the scenario but wouldnt it only take any guild out there in the game to decide to go for it and if you havent got over the 50% kills then you could lose it anyway?


You are right to an extent.. but imagine that there a few players online, not exactly peak time..

FFS, TTF, A-team.. whoever else who is big in titan hunting guilds nowadays are on cooldown on that specific titan and it pops out..

few of the 'smaller' guilds go for it and one fast-ish guildless player.. all he would need would be 700 - 1000 kills to achieve first place and he would get a drop.. unlike the smaller guilds who would need 50.1% .. so possible 1600 - 2500 kills.


Not sure about that mate, as I believe that more and more " smaller " guilds will go for a Titan that they know the " bigger " guilds are unable to hit. I know we will.

Cheers.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:22

Being in a guild for 7 days before you can hunt a titan is stupid....you don't have to wait 7 days to gvg, so why should you have to wait 7 days to titan hunt?


It's to prevent guild hopping to circumvent the titan cooldown.

Would you consider making it less then 7 days? also cant you just go guild-less and hit a titan without waiting 7 days? instead of joining a guild i personally to get around the new update go guild-less and place first without having to join a guild and wait 7 days? That is how i see it being abused over guild hopping to get around it.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:35

Being in a guild for 7 days before you can hunt a titan is stupid....you don't have to wait 7 days to gvg, so why should you have to wait 7 days to titan hunt?


It's to prevent guild hopping to circumvent the titan cooldown.

Would you consider making it less then 7 days? also cant you just go guild-less and hit a titan without waiting 7 days? instead of joining a guild i personally to get around the new update go guild-less and place first without having to join a guild and wait 7 days? That is how i see it being abused over guild hopping to get around it.


Please see my suggestion earlier in the thread regarding this :)

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:39

Solo'in a titan isn't easy, apart from the few undesirable higher level ones. There are always others going to go for them. The only reason this is even being brought up is because of that kraken bug, that has been FIXED. It will be rare for someone to solo 1st place on a titan (unless they are cheating), but if they manage to do it legit then good for them.

As hoof said - Guildless players don't get TKP, so if they don't secure then they would get nothing. So when you actually think about it, it's the only fair solution for those who do not wish to be in a guild but would like to titan hunt for an epic.

#79 EpicPiety

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:20

Solo'in a titan isn't easy, apart from the few undesirable higher level ones. There are always others going to go for them. The only reason this is even being brought up is because of that kraken bug, that has been FIXED. It will be rare for someone to solo 1st place on a titan (unless they are cheating), but if they manage to do it legit then good for them.

As hoof said - Guildless players don't get TKP, so if they don't secure then they would get nothing. So when you actually think about it, it's the only fair solution for those who do not wish to be in a guild but would like to titan hunt for an epic.

Placing first place soloing is very easy now that you dont have to worry about ffs/ttf being there every time lol...

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:24

Currently if a guildless player achieves the most kills on a titan they will receive the item (Titan Kill Points are only allocated to guilds).

What we could do however is apply any of the guild's active titan cooldowns to any player who leaves the guild. What do you think?

We also look over the code tonight to make sure the titan cooldowns are applied properly :)

How about if you create a guild you need to level it to 100-200 and anyone who joins before it gets to 100-200(or whatever level you think) can titan hunt when it hits that level. and if you join a already existing guild you need to wait 7 days if its over whatever level you choose?


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