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#1 RumbleRPG

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 21:40

just did a little bit of math about the formula for xp required for each composing level.

formula: (level-1)^2)*250
level 50 composing level: (50-1)^2*250 = 600250 xp

according to this: http://wiki.fallensw...x.php/Composing , the best potion to make is (for xp gain): 
2 skills: 1 with lvl 40 and 1 with lvl 14, duration: 54 min, takes 100 min to make and gives you 20 composing xp. or 1 xp every 5 min 

 

So, the best potion to make to gain the most xp pr. min gives us 1 xp pr.  5 min. 
60/5 = 12*1 xp = 12 xp pr. hour (max)

 

600250/12 xp pr. hour = 50020 hours to gain level 50 in composing (without buying "instant finish")

So, 50020 hours/24 hours pr. day = 2084 days. 

I just think that quite a lot to gain composing level 50? it's 5,7 year non stop brewing :P

 

Am i the only one?



#2 watagashi

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 22:31

sort of yes,,, its not going to take that long if you do it efficientally.

 

What I cant wrap my head around is how a pot with worthless buff levels but high duration will make as much or more exp than say a doubler 200 that someone could actually use. Especially when you factor that the 40,40,40,95 at 215 will net 50 exp for common and a couple rares but a dub 200 uses LE frags and gives poop exp


Edited by watagashi, 18 October 2013 - 22:32.


#3 wil72

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 22:36

Hmmm, Composing. First thing to be tackled in Development Roadmap. It's to be improved too! wink.png

 

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#4 Pardoux

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Posted 18 October 2013 - 22:38

just did a little bit of math about the formula for xp required for each composing level.

formula: (level-1)^2)*250
level 50 composing level: (50-1)^2*250 = 600250 xp

according to this: http://wiki.fallensw...x.php/Composing , the best potion to make is (for xp gain): 
2 skills: 1 with lvl 40 and 1 with lvl 14, duration: 54 min, takes 100 min to make and gives you 20 composing xp. or 1 xp every 5 min 

 

So, the best potion to make to gain the most xp pr. min gives us 1 xp pr.  5 min. 
60/5 = 12*1 xp = 12 xp pr. hour (max)

 

600250/12 xp pr. hour = 50020 hours to gain level 50 in composing (without buying "instant finish")

So, 50020 hours/24 hours pr. day = 2084 days. 

I just think that quite a lot to gain composing level 50? it's 5,7 year non stop brewing :P

 

Am i the only one?

 

You're not taking into account that each time you gain a composing level, the time to create said potion diminishes by 5 mins.

 

Level 50 isn't meant to be attained overnight, but yes, I agree that the current timescales are - ASSUMING NOTHING ELSE CHANGES - too long.

 

BUT, things are changing - Hoof is keen on the idea of making multiple potions at once - that option being made available at some, as yet, unspecified, composing level - and that will speed up the levelling process considerably ..


Edited by Pardoux, 18 October 2013 - 22:39.

Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...


#5 gilby90813

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 15:00

... that why u pay to speed things up to 320k gold like i started up to  a couple days ago


Edited by gilby90813, 19 October 2013 - 15:02.


#6 gomezkilla

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 17:51

Composing is not supposed be attained quickly, which is why it will take a few years to max on levels (provided more aren't added). It should be just as easy as getting the Loyalty medal.. log on every day, compose a few potions while you are on, and then start the process all over again the next day/login.

 

It will be a little easier to remember to do all this when the notifications are added to remind you to go compose another potion. 


Edited by gomezkilla, 19 October 2013 - 17:51.


#7 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 18:40

But I believe if no changes are made, the game will die before someone reach lvl 50, same thing with Diamond Medals for Global Quests.

But is good to know HCs have changes for Composing soon :)



#8 gomezkilla

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 19:07

But I believe if no changes are made, the game will die before someone reach lvl 50, same thing with Diamond Medals for Global Quests.

But is good to know HCs have changes for Composing soon :)

The game will not die because the Diamond medal for GQs is set as high as it is or that it will take so long to get to level 50 Composing.



#9 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 20:26

The game will not die because the Diamond medal for GQs is set as high as it is or that it will take so long to get to level 50 Composing.

i don't say the game will die because of that, but before that.
For Composing we have  implements coming, but for Global Quests, using the better opition of one event on each 2 months, that will take 33,3 years =P

No problem with that, I don't believe we need more Global Events, I'm just saying that is an Medal impossible to achieve :)



#10 gomezkilla

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 20:55

For Composing we have  implements coming, but for Global Quests, using the better opition of one event on each 2 months, that will take 33,3 years =P

No problem with that, I don't believe we need more Global Events, I'm just saying that is an Medal impossible to achieve :)

I agree, something needs to change with the Global Quests so that either more come out (including weaker events, not all overpowered rewards) or the numbers need to be lowered.



#11 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 06:27

I agree, something needs to change with the Global Quests so that either more come out (including weaker events, not all overpowered rewards) or the numbers need to be lowered.

+1 For numbers being lowered.



#12 Pardoux

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 06:43

What happened to this thread being about composing ? ;) - it seems to have taken a wrong turn somewhere and become about Global Events ? ..


Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...


#13 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 09:58

My fault =P

But all that can be said is:
- Composing need upgrades/changes.
-HCS are working on this already.

For now all that we can do about it is wait.



#14 Pardoux

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:12

My fault =P

But all that can be said is:
- Composing need upgrades/changes.
-HCS are working on this already.

For now all that we can do about it is wait.

 

Pretty much - hope there's more to the changes than just those listed in the roadmap tho :)


Homer : Marge, don't discourage the boy. Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals .. except the weasel.

 

Eddie Izzard : The National Rifle Association say that guns don't kill people, people do. But I think the gun helps, you know ? I think it helps. I think just standing there going "BANG" - that's not going to kill too many people, is it ?

 

I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but it seems that everything I eat lately turns to poo ...



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