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#1 Debrutsid

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 13:14

Quest of Causality

Mystical Blacksmith
Ah, you have heard tell of the items that reflect your nature have you? You require a special bar to make these. I'm not sure you're strong enough yet. Bring me the scalps of 100 vicious

You have killed 100/100 Vicious

My apologies, I was not aware you were so powerful! Please take this causal bar.

(Note: Vicious chosen due to realm level restrict)

You receive 5 x SP 10,000,000xp and a Causal Bar (Bound)

Forge Gem

Either :

Causal Mage Gem (bound, slots to weapon) - +5% Wisdom +2.5% Defence - 1000 x Spore Essence, 10 x Lava Rock, 1 x Casual Bar (Bound)

or

Causal Warrior Gem (bound, slots to weapon) - +2.5% Attack + 5% damage - 1000 x Spore Essence, 10 x Lava Rock, 1 x Casual Bar (Bound)

Causal Miner Gem (bound, slots to weapon) - +25% mining. +25% smelting, +100% AP - 1000 x Spore Essence, 10 x Lava Rock, 1 x Casual Bar (Bound)


I have based these figures on a 6K warrior/mage with current items. This way you have a weapon that grows with you. One glaring omission - the 6K warrior/mage still has those bonuses, so those % should be cut, but to where?

Comments?

(Edited to reduce to a more sensible level %)

#2 gothador_chunkymonke

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 13:19

maybe a miner 1? :P

this is a good idea but what does it slot into?

#3 Debrutsid

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 13:21

this needed to be done ages ago. Do it Cowses..doooo eeet

#4 Debrutsid

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 13:22

I thought miners usually also follow a warrior/miner path. Added where it slots.

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 13:26

Well thought out and I like the use of some rather usless stuff. Spore Essence!
Hey since I am plugging the heck out of putting foragers back to work perhaps another bar could be added to the mix say using ice daimonds "you mix xxx iace diamonds to create "new bar" another almost useless item.

Good Idea, more slottables are always good.

Sorry for shamlessly promoting my idea into your great quest Idea. :oops:

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 13:28

I like it! All the dead vicious and narry a drop lol.

#7 Maiddee

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 13:30

Sounds Awesome too me!

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 15:45

[quote name="Chunkymonkey"]maybe a miner 1? :P quote]


forget a miner one!!!! I want the warrior slottable!!!!

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 17:18

"+25% Attack + 50% damage"

don't you guys think that is just a little overpowered.... a bit? if i wore that and took one of those squigmarr vials that would be about 10k extra atk and 120k extra dmg and 50% wis would be worse. it would get exponentially more powerful after that.

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 19:09

"+25% Attack + 50% damage"

don't you guys think that is just a little overpowered.... a bit? if i wore that and took one of those squigmarr vials that would be about 10k extra atk and 120k extra dmg and 50% wis would be worse. it would get exponentially more powerful after that.


I have based these figures on a 6K warrior/mage with current items. This way you have a weapon that grows with you. One glaring omission - the 6K warrior/mage still has those bonuses, so those % should be cut, but to where?

Comments?


As I said, I had based the stats on replicating a level 6K's bonuses, so this would effectively double them, so obviously overpowered. A 10% boost is probably wiser. Thus I suggest the following amendments:

Causal Mage Gem (bound, slots to weapon) - +5% Wisdom +2.5% Defence - 1000 x Spore Essence, 10 x Lava Rock, 1 x Casual Bar (Bound)

or

Causal Warrior Gem (bound, slots to weapon) - +2.5% Attack + 5% damage - 1000 x Spore Essence, 10 x Lava Rock, 1 x Casual Bar (Bound)

or

Causal Miner Gem (bound, slots to weapon) - +25% mining. +25% smelting, +100% AP - 1000 x Spore Essence, 10 x Lava Rock, 1 x Casual Bar (Bound) - This can remain the same as miners need a little loving!

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 22:01

"+25% Attack + 50% damage"

don't you guys think that is just a little overpowered.... a bit? if i wore that and took one of those squigmarr vials that would be about 10k extra atk and 120k extra dmg and 50% wis would be worse. it would get exponentially more powerful after that.


I have based these figures on a 6K warrior/mage with current items. This way you have a weapon that grows with you. One glaring omission - the 6K warrior/mage still has those bonuses, so those % should be cut, but to where?

Comments?


As I said, I had based the stats on replicating a level 6K's bonuses, so this would effectively double them, so obviously overpowered. A 10% boost is probably wiser. Thus I suggest the following amendments:

Causal Mage Gem (bound, slots to weapon) - +5% Wisdom +2.5% Defence - 1000 x Spore Essence, 10 x Lava Rock, 1 x Casual Bar (Bound)

or

Causal Warrior Gem (bound, slots to weapon) - +2.5% Attack + 5% damage - 1000 x Spore Essence, 10 x Lava Rock, 1 x Casual Bar (Bound)

or

Causal Miner Gem (bound, slots to weapon) - +25% mining. +25% smelting, +100% AP - 1000 x Spore Essence, 10 x Lava Rock, 1 x Casual Bar (Bound) - This can remain the same as miners need a little loving!



possibly have it as an idol slottable considering you can only wear 1 idol at 7500 and 2 at 50k so you would have to choose between rabbit foot and causal?

#12 Debrutsid

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 23:50

i like it, however, I would suggest for the miner one. if a miner would choose to get that over having attack or wis bonuses to also include 5-10% more chance of getting an extra ore.bar.

and of course the ever elusive SMELT FIGHTER!!!!!!!!!!!

#13 Debrutsid

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 23:52

and weapon would be ok, but maybe on the armor instead.

not a lot of really good armor slottables

and lets also face facts if said miner can take out vicious effectively, it is probably a good bet their mining/smelting is amped up to the max, so several new mines would have to be introduced, otherwise the % just sucks

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 01:01

Love the idea... needs some more tweaking though :)



Just for info... based on this thread http://forum.gothado...php?f=1&t=53905 there is only one miner of high enough level to get into icedrop at the moment... but there are at least 2 over 6k character level (ArmyBeans and my Couatlbub).

Armybeans wouldn't benefit at all from the +25% mining and smelting
Couatlbub would benefit but mainly from increased mining and smelting exp gains.

Also the miners one with +100% AP... well most would already have spent enough points in AP to not need more.

I suspect Armybeans would select the mage one and I am certainly unsure which I would pick as Couatlbub currently does a combination of melee and sorcery :P


But I haven't a clue what to suggest for the miner version.

#15 Debrutsid

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 09:44

I can think of 4 - bayer, jhari, bearcub and derlin all are over 6.5K. I know this restrict sucks for miners and so does the miners option, but I did try to think of them. Tried to make this possible without requiring any coding so Iago could do it if he was so inclined.

Obviously it would be better if the miner reward had smelt fighter (normal xp when smelting) and advanced skill skilled orber (% chance of getting 2 orbs when orbing), but this would require coding.

#16 Debrutsid

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Posted 11 February 2009 - 19:53

Shame, chatted with Iago and he can't do a percentage on items, only on vials. But he seemed to like the idea and will try to talk to hoof when he can.

#17 Debrutsid

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 17:49

ooooohh. come on hoof!!!

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 18:28

there is only one miner of high enough level to get into icedrop at the moment... but there are at least 2 over 6k character level (ArmyBeans and my Couatlbub).


hey i'm a miner :|

sounds good :)

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 06:46

there is only one miner of high enough level to get into icedrop at the moment... but there are at least 2 over 6k character level (ArmyBeans and my Couatlbub).


hey i'm a miner :|

sounds good :)


Good to know!!!

Please post here http://forum.gothado...php?f=1&t=53905

cos me trying a defacto Miner character level top 100 thingy... for a while i was afraid Couatlbub was second... but now there is at least 3 over 7500 :D

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 17:46

i am slowly making my way up to 6500, now that that cheapskate of a owner, Debrutsid will only take me on trains when he is powerleveling someone else


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