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#1 Alisa

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 16:44

hello everyone!!

 

was wondering if Fallen Sword will ever have a Monthly Subscription added to the game. thought it be neat to have something like boost to Potions duration when drinking or increase hourly XP/Gold gain or maybe access to Subscribers only Enchantment. yes i know we have brew master and relics for some of that!  <_<

 

i wouldn't mind paying monthly charge for something like this just to help with the Fallen Sword income. 

 

also sorry if this wrong area in forums to post ideas, i got no idea where to put this topic!  :unsure:

 

sorry for my grammar!


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#2 DeadParrot

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 18:39

I like the idea.  I gladly paid for DDO each month which encouraged consistent updates, tweeks, and perks.  But there is something I have never understood....why do I not see FS littering other gamer-specific sites....nor Eldevin for that matter. 

 

FS has the distinct advantage of positioning itself as a "retro" MUD game, therefore doesn't have to be cutting edge and can survive as long as they have interest (similar to the resurgence of Atari style games for the iOS).

 

We could well see the day the daily population is up over 2000, but advertising is key on HCS' part.

 

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#3 Pardoux

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 19:42

Given that the cows already have an income stream from players via donations, I'm not too sure about a subscription on top of that.

 

I realise that both of them (if the latter is introduced) would be/are optional - but the benefits vs the cost of a subscription system would need to be VERY carefully considered....

 

Something like, just off the top of my head, $5 / month and that gives you 5% extra boost to your potions (other than epic potions) may fly but a more "cost-heavy" one with bigger benefits wouldn't, I think.

We don't want the game to spiral further in to the "those that pay" and "those that don't", do we ?


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#4 Undjuvion

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 20:01

i wouldnt be against it if it didnt give any distinct advantages, $5 a months for a few lil perks ...eg doubled bio space, you get a second spot to enter the second bio so each time you arent subscribing it dont get lost, extra couple of bank deposits a day, one free fsbox and shoutbox msg per day, a stamp like the admins have, maybe green? and says subscriber, nothing thatll do TOO much, like pardoux said basically :)



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 20:37

might as well make it work like the eldevin subscription and you just gain more FSP + loyalty points per consecutive subscribed month.. 

 

no reason to add a benefit effecting game mechanics (besides maybe a bonus potion? *shrugs*)


 


#6 Alisa

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 23:15

i wouldnt be against it if it didnt give any distinct advantages, $5 a months for a few lil perks ...eg doubled bio space, you get a second spot to enter the second bio so each time you arent subscribing it dont get lost, extra couple of bank deposits a day, one free fsbox and shoutbox msg per day, a stamp like the admins have, maybe green? and says subscriber, nothing thatll do TOO much, like pardoux said basically :)

 

oh i wouldn't mind getting them benefits and hope this gets checked at.


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 10:58

I like the idea.  I gladly paid for DDO each month which encouraged consistent updates, tweeks, and perks.  But there is something I have never understood....why do I not see FS littering other gamer-specific sites....nor Eldevin for that matter. 

 

FS has the distinct advantage of positioning itself as a "retro" MUD game, therefore doesn't have to be cutting edge and can survive as long as they have interest (similar to the resurgence of Atari style games for the iOS).

 

We could well see the day the daily population is up over 2000, but advertising is key on HCS' part.

 

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Been shouting about advertising for over a year. Agree 100%.

 

As to the subscription, as long as actual tangible gameplay boosts aren't included (the potion aspects I'm not favorable of) as Pardoux cited it should be a nice secondary aspect for people to visibly cite they are supporters of the game.

 

Bio space was cited at one point in the past year would be increased the allottment for upgrades.... but thus far nothing. There's one thing right there that would definitely add something.

 

Also I like the allottment of a FS Box post per day alottment. Maybe a icon under your guild rank and guild name like HCS staff members do on thier profile along with a forum badge (like the blue HCS staff profile icon).

 

Imo, this could be something nice and be something that could be a specific supporter fund that can also possibly be used for promotion of FS. (Internet advertising/etc) as the growth of the game is something that any plausible supporter would want. (I know full well I'd donate MORE if I knew HCS would be advertising the game like they used to. HINT to HCS lolz)


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:21

I do think some thing along the lines of a Sub should be implemented... Not sure on the cost or rewards for it though.... It is a hard road to get down.. Since FSP's are more costly the EP's on Eldevin....



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 19:39

I'm not personally a fan of monthly subscriptions but depending on the perks it might be a good thing to funnel a little extra money towards HCS so maybe they can hire additional coders to update the game quicker ;)

 

One request would be to allow players to use FSP to pay for the subscription fee.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 19:42

maybe they can hire additional coders to update the game quicker ;)

 

if they even want to add/hire additional coders to this game..


 


#11 WWWolf

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 20:02

if they even want to add/hire additional coders to this game..

True - I have considered that possibility as well.  Perhaps they will not hire more coders just so they can keep better tabs on the changes.  However, it does appear that they are way over-burdened with the amount of coding that is to be done and all they great ideas for improvements.  I just don't see how they can keep up at the current rate.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 21:42

Can I get more stamina gain. 100 would be great then sign me up



#13 Alisa

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 16:28

One request would be to allow players to use FSP to pay for the subscription fee.

 

I don't think they will get much donations/support that way... i think is best to stay with real money just to keep the moo moos happy. :)


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#14 WWWolf

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 20:02

I don't think they will get much donations/support that way... i think is best to stay with real money just to keep the moo moos happy. :)

Where do you think the FSP come from?  The only way FSP enter the game is with actual money coming in to the game.  This idea would actually reduce the total FSP in the game by having a way for FSP to leave the game other than sitting in retired accounts.



#15 RebornJedi

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 20:10

Where do you think the FSP come from?  The only way FSP enter the game is with actual money coming in to the game.  

FSP also comes into the game via recruitment bonuses, free rewards, and phoenix rebirths..

 

but if a monthly subscription option is introduced, i doubt HCS would let players use FSP to purchase it.. i personally think that would defeat the purpose


 


#16 WWWolf

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 20:31

I had actually forgotten about the recruitment/phoenix FSP options but the "free rewards" still equal actual money for HCS.

 

The way rewards work is (in the case of video rewards for example) you watch a video which an advertiser determines is worth X number of shards.  For every shard generated by that advertisement, the advertiser pays HCS a set rate.  This way, even though you didn't have to open your wallet to get the rewards, HCS still got paid, just not directly from you.

It works essentially the same for the paid rewards accept that the advertiser also gets money from you...

 

Essentially, you could think of FSP as BitCoins that can only be spent in Fallen Sword.



#17 Alisa

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 09:40

Where do you think the FSP come from?  The only way FSP enter the game is with actual money coming in to the game.  This idea would actually reduce the total FSP in the game by having a way for FSP to leave the game other than sitting in retired accounts.

FSP can be earned many ways like farming, hunting, titan slaying, inventing, and also what RebornJedi just said aswell.

 

unless the game has 1000+ active members daily it's best to keep it with real money. Maybe for new users they get 3-7days free trial.


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Posted 14 March 2014 - 09:58

Well I have earned about 1200 FSP's just from the offers add Videos.. So there are plenty even though I have spent a load of real money also... But to me the game is entertainment... I would love to see a way to Sub for it.... A friend told me people wanted a long time ago but it never happened....



#19 Alisa

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 17:29

Well I have earned about 1200 FSP's just from the offers add Videos.. So there are plenty even though I have spent a load of real money also... But to me the game is entertainment... I would love to see a way to Sub for it.... A friend told me people wanted a long time ago but it never happened....

so something like this was already said before? i wonder what was the reply on that and the reason for why not...


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#20 WWWolf

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 16:29

FSP can be earned many ways like farming, hunting, titan slaying, inventing, and also what RebornJedi just said aswell.

 

unless the game has 1000+ active members daily it's best to keep it with real money. Maybe for new users they get 3-7days free trial.

All of these methods of "earning" FSP mentioned here are ways in which they get traded between players but the method in which those FSP entered the game in the first place (with the exception of recruiting), involved real money being sent to HCS by either the player or advertiser.  FSP are essentially a virtual currency that is only valid for this game.

 

Also, though I have not seen over 1,000 players on at one time in quite a while, I am certain that there are far more than 1,000 per day.  Most just don't stay on any longer than about 30 -60 minutes per day.




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