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Poll: Composing Instant Finish (35 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you prefer to have the instant finish timer refresh at 00:00 ST by default?

  1. Yes (28 votes [80.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.00%

  2. No (2 votes [5.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.71%

  3. No Preference (5 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

Would you prefer to have bank deposits refresh at 00:00 ST by default?

  1. Yes (22 votes [73.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 73.33%

  2. No (3 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  3. No Preference (5 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

Would you like to be able to change the default reset from 00:00 ST to a time of your choosing?

  1. Yes (5 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  2. No (4 votes [26.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.67%

  3. I wouldn't use this feature (6 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

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#21 Makubrex

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 11:21

i lose time as it is as i have what is more commonly referred to as a life outside of Fallensword. If the ticker resets after a period of 24 hours i know it will reset at a point when i can be online as i will not be away from my computer at work or whatever. I am asleep at midnight generally, or if not I am likely to be out so resetting at midnight holds no earth while value to me nor to anyone else. You do not see my point at all, which is very basic, it is called being able to plan my instant completions. If I do my instant completions at say 5:30pm then i know the next day I can repeat the same practice each day. As to providing more experience I just do not see this at all...

 

I like to plan my days and i am very well organised so it resetting at the point i finished instant buying potions actually works a lot better for me. I can put a note in my phone and i am set.

Davros, I don't even understand how you're not understanding me >.< Can we take this to PMs on FS so as to not clutter the thread so much as well as faster responses?



#22 Makubrex

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 12:05

Well, that matter is handled.

 

Is there any more feedback anyone would like to give? =)



#23 gomezkilla

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 20:55

Compromise time!

 

Have an option to set your own daily reset time. No lost time and you can have a reset that best fits into your schedule. 

 

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#24 yotwehc

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 22:43

Compromise time!

Have an option to set your own daily reset time. No lost time and you can have a reset that best fits into your schedule.

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Compromise for the one no? O_o

#25 gomezkilla

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 22:45

Compromise for the one no? O_o

I never saw any argument against the ticker, therefore it merited no compromise.



#26 Makubrex

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 23:37

Being able to set your own reset time would require extra coding and results in the same thing as resetting at midnight ST - you don't need to use up your deposits/instant finishes right when it resets, there's no point in doing that if you know when it's going to reset and you know you can deposit/instant finish before the reset.



#27 gomezkilla

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 12:45

Being able to set your own reset time would require extra coding and results in the same thing as resetting at midnight ST - you don't need to use up your deposits/instant finishes right when it resets, there's no point in doing that if you know when it's going to reset and you know you can deposit/instant finish before the reset.

Here's an example that you may want to consider.

 

In this example, I would like to hunt at 17:00 FST and this hunt I will not be using Sacrifice. So I go about my business, hunting and slaying some creatures, breaking down items and gaining gold and then I am finished. My gold count when the hunt is finished is approximately 5.5 million and the time is about 17:45. Using your argument, my resets would have been reset about 17 hours ago at midnight so I would be able to deposit this sum of cash into the guild bank (where I do my deposits)... but wait, all that cash isn't gone, I still have a huge amount of gold. And my reset doesn't reset for another 7 hours! I might get hit in a PvP attack and lose it all!

 

Now, using my argument, I could set my reset time for 18:00 FST, do my hunt starting at 17:00 FST and finish before the hour is up, then be able to deposit the first set of deposits and then once the clock hits 18:00, I will be able to do another round of deposits. Granted there is still a small window between then and the reset so there is a possibility that I will get hit, but there is less of a chance since the time is a fraction of what it would have been had it reset at midnight.

 

As you can see, there are times where you want/have to deposit right after the reset.

 

Gomez.



#28 Makubrex

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 14:47

Here's an example that you may want to consider.

 

In this example, I would like to hunt at 17:00 FST and this hunt I will not be using Sacrifice. So I go about my business, hunting and slaying some creatures, breaking down items and gaining gold and then I am finished. My gold count when the hunt is finished is approximately 5.5 million and the time is about 17:45. Using your argument, my resets would have been reset about 17 hours ago at midnight so I would be able to deposit this sum of cash into the guild bank (where I do my deposits)... but wait, all that cash isn't gone, I still have a huge amount of gold. And my reset doesn't reset for another 7 hours! I might get hit in a PvP attack and lose it all!

 

Now, using my argument, I could set my reset time for 18:00 FST, do my hunt starting at 17:00 FST and finish before the hour is up, then be able to deposit the first set of deposits and then once the clock hits 18:00, I will be able to do another round of deposits. Granted there is still a small window between then and the reset so there is a possibility that I will get hit, but there is less of a chance since the time is a fraction of what it would have been had it reset at midnight.

 

As you can see, there are times where you want/have to deposit right after the reset.

 

Gomez.

I understand your point fully, and I do support the option - but the real question is: How long would it take to implement your spin on my idea?

 

How about this, then? Depending on the amount of time it takes to code this new addition, my idea could be implemented first as a quick fix and yours could be implemented later - though, even though I can see the possible benefit to your idea, you would only be able to do that once every two days (but, of course, you don't hunt every single day like I do due to max stam gain and 1850 or so max stam without epics/relic).

 

Your idea could benefit higher level players by being able to use two quick sets of bank deposits (doesn't affect composing all too much, but you could do two quick batches as well as deposit if you timed it well) which I can most definitely see the advantage. The problem is, would HCS want to add this feature, and how long would it take?

 

 

My proposition for this new idea if it's to be added (as I actually do like it): Have the bank deposits and composing instant finishes reset at midnight by default and add an option in your preferences to change the time for both bank deposit resets and composing instant finish resets - two separate options. That way, less information is stored on the HCS servers (hopefully) by having everyone default to 00:00 ST.

 

I'm going to add a new poll to this discussion thread, please vote on that one, too everyone! (I think you have to delete your votes and revote? I'm new to the forums so I don't know! :x)


Edited by Makubrex, 25 May 2014 - 14:53.


#29 yotwehc

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 15:25

Here's an example that you may want to consider.

In this example, I would like to hunt at 17:00 FST and this hunt I will not be using Sacrifice. So I go about my business, hunting and slaying some creatures, breaking down items and gaining gold and then I am finished. My gold count when the hunt is finished is approximately 5.5 million and the time is about 17:45. Using your argument, my resets would have been reset about 17 hours ago at midnight so I would be able to deposit this sum of cash into the guild bank (where I do my deposits)... but wait, all that cash isn't gone, I still have a huge amount of gold. And my reset doesn't reset for another 7 hours! I might get hit in a PvP attack and lose it all!

Now, using my argument, I could set my reset time for 18:00 FST, do my hunt starting at 17:00 FST and finish before the hour is up, then be able to deposit the first set of deposits and then once the clock hits 18:00, I will be able to do another round of deposits. Granted there is still a small window between then and the reset so there is a possibility that I will get hit, but there is less of a chance since the time is a fraction of what it would have been had it reset at midnight.

As you can see, there are times where you want/have to deposit right after the reset.

Gomez.

I would manipulate this idea. As per your example, I would NOT make any deposits in previous 24 hours so I can make a big deposit pre 18:00 then do a second set of deposits post 18:00. Yay! I have essentially doubled my hunt deposits.
I can go with either but we are splitting hairs at this point and I think we should stick with the KISS principle.

#30 Makubrex

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 15:45

Mhm, I got that from Gomez's post  :P

 

What exactly is the KISS principle?


Edited by Makubrex, 25 May 2014 - 15:46.


#31 duktayp

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 15:59

What exactly is the KISS principle?

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#32 yotwehc

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 16:14

Mhm, I got that from Gomez's post :P

What exactly is the KISS principle?

Keep it simple silly. But more popularly known as keep it simple stupid. :P

#33 Makubrex

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 16:26

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Keep it simple silly. But more popularly known as keep it simple stupid. :P

 

Keep it on topic, guys :P Even though you two are entertaining <3

 

Also, if anyone could go around advertising to their friends about this thread, I'd really appreciate it. I want more opinions on this than what we have =)



#34 yotwehc

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 17:16

Keep it on topic, guys :P Even though you two are entertaining <3

Also, if anyone could go around advertising to their friends about this thread, I'd really appreciate it. I want more opinions on this than what we have =)

Uhhhh your the one asking about the KISS principle? Google it. It does indeed mean Keep It Simple Stupid... o_O

#35 Makubrex

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 17:31

Uhhhh your the one asking about the KISS principle? Google it. It does indeed mean Keep It Simple Stupid... o_O

Oh. I didn't get it at first :| I hate acronyms when people expect you to get them D:



#36 gomezkilla

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 17:58

 

My proposition for this new idea if it's to be added (as I actually do like it): Have the bank deposits and composing instant finishes reset at midnight by default and add an option in your preferences to change the time for both bank deposit resets and composing instant finish resets - two separate options. That way, less information is stored on the HCS servers (hopefully) by having everyone default to 00:00 ST.

I'll agree to that. Default to midnight, if you want to specify then they are able to. (Though the assigned reset would need to take place 24 hours after the selection is made).



#37 Makubrex

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 18:07

I'll agree to that. Default to midnight, if you want to specify then they are able to. (Though the assigned reset would need to take place 24 hours after the selection is made).

I was going to add that to my message, too, but I forgot while typing my wall :P



#38 Triana

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 10:03

I like the first two ideas.  I voted yes on them.  They will be helpful once I am able to play again (currently banned) and the ideas are implemented.  The 3rd one I voted "I wouldn't use this feature" but now that I think about it, I think it could be helpful too.  No way to change my vote though, is there?



#39 gomezkilla

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 14:25

I like the first two ideas.  I voted yes on them.  They will be helpful once I am able to play again (currently banned) and the ideas are implemented.  The 3rd one I voted "I wouldn't use this feature" but now that I think about it, I think it could be helpful too.  No way to change my vote though, is there?

Delete your vote and recast it with all three polls.



#40 Makubrex

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 17:32

I like the first two ideas.  I voted yes on them.  They will be helpful once I am able to play again (currently banned) and the ideas are implemented.  The 3rd one I voted "I wouldn't use this feature" but now that I think about it, I think it could be helpful too.  No way to change my vote though, is there?

Like Gomez said, that's all you have to do =p

 

I like the steady feedback we're getting, but I wish the people who said no actually gave solid reasoning as to why they don't like it - unless they do that, their votes aren't really considered "strongly opposed" to the ideas.

 

Anyway, as of right now with only 6.45% of people saying they wouldn't like these ideas, when can it be put in Hoof? :P




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