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#1 Susej

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 21:50

After this update i have a question

 

WHO IS THE BRAVE SOUL THAT WILL TANK TOMORROW WORLD BOSSES

 

 

Cause i am kinda curious...


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#2 Maquiboy

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 22:21

I dont think the last update will change anything. Tank/healer still can keep aggro of one boss.

 

I run asv today with Lela and she still doing great. The problem is more with keeping aggro of several mobs or when adds come after the start of a fight. With few wipes and some adjustments, everything was fine.

 

She maybe loosing aggro A LITTLE more than usual but she still doing exactly what pure tank can do. Pure tank were (and still) loosing agro a lot more than tank/healer hybrids..



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Posted 30 May 2014 - 22:25

Maq.......... what gets me is THE PEOPLE SPEAKING FOR TANKS like if we are all cool with how the punishment is added on to us and we have to try harder and harder to carry the show. Lela posted in another thread being unhappy. Everything is not great and cool, now is the time hopefully with some momentum, we get some serious changes to tanks and hcs take notice.

 

Changed for clarity. did not come across as I meant it.

 

But yes, you are correct, maq. I agree. I don't see any probs with people tanking world bosses. Hopefully.


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Posted 30 May 2014 - 22:35

I dont think the last update will change anything. Tank/healer still can keep aggro of one boss.

 

I run asv today with Lela and she still doing great. The problem is more with keeping aggro of several mobs or when adds come after the start of a fight. With few wipes and some adjustments, everything was fine.

 

She maybe loosing aggro A LITTLE more than usual but she still doing exactly what pure tank can do. Pure tank were (and still) loosing agro a lot more than tank/healer hybrids..

 

 

Don't get me wrong but when most of the templars who run asv/arg (experienced templars) are considering to either quit or respec i think their is a problem in the current templar idea


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Posted 30 May 2014 - 22:52

DOnt get me wrong too cause i was one of the first to complain to get templars a little more love. i was templar for long but i was too tired to wait so i respected to warrior when lvl 41-45 came.

 

I run a lot of dongeons at level 45 with pure tank and hybridtank and i must say that runnning with a healer/tank was way more easy. it needed a nerf but that updates touched aggro of both pures and hybrids tanks. i hope inciting cry can have a boost now.. But we have to keep in mind that if tanks can keep aggro all the time, dongeons will be too easy.

 

That remind me when they nerfed benediction.. that hurt a lot but everybody did adjustments and i have to say that Bene nerf was good for the game...



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Posted 30 May 2014 - 23:20

DOnt get me wrong too cause i was one of the first to complain to get templars a little more love. i was templar for long but i was too tired to wait so i respected to warrior when lvl 41-45 came.

 

I run a lot of dongeons at level 45 with pure tank and hybridtank and i must say that runnning with a healer/tank was way more easy. it needed a nerf but that updates touched aggro of both pures and hybrids tanks. i hope inciting cry can have a boost now.. But we have to keep in mind that if tanks can keep aggro all the time, dongeons will be too easy.

 

That remind me when they nerfed benediction.. that hurt a lot but everybody did adjustments and i have to say that Bene nerf was good for the game...

Bene was OP lol


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Posted 30 May 2014 - 23:22

I run a lot of dongeons at level 45 with pure tank and hybridtank and i must say that runnning with a healer/tank was way more easy. it needed a nerf but that updates touched aggro of both pures and hybrids tanks. i hope inciting cry can have a boost now.. But we have to keep in mind that if tanks can keep aggro all the time, dongeons will be too easy.

 

No, I am sick of the parlour tricks to create artifical difficulty by cutting tanks so much. Crap is bound to happen because we have been weakened so much. I should have options in my talent tree for threat, haste, dps boosts etc. Maybe I can't use them all but mix and match.

 

Others have haste in their talent trees etc AND I SURE AS HELL WANT SOME THREAT IN MY TALENT TREE. Also sure, inciting cry should get a boost but I should also have a wider reaching new threat talent also in my roster . Despair was very handy for range.  It could not be spammed it was basically you better time it correctly with it as you are only getting 1 shot with it. It sure as hell could not be used repeatedly. It was a tool.

 

What has occured IS ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY. HCS have given dps etc massive haste, massive dps which generates tones of threat. o and mobs now stun tanks, they reset aggro. All cheap tricks. IT SHOULD COME DOWN TO MY TIMING AND SKILL. My faith should be in my own hands. Not hcs tying me down to create artificial difficulty. 

 

Maybe during battles have timing tells of mobs and I need to react or read signs in battle and if I don't respond then BOOM it was my fault. Not allowing me to compete with over powered dps or having resetting aggro mobs or having me kicked to death on the ground so I can't do anything (although this may have been addressed in one place) is just an illusion of difficulty as you are tying the tank down because I don't have tools to do anything.

 

Tanks just need to be fairly looked at for once. The repair bills etc. the warning signs have been posted numerous times and we have been ignored. HCS please just give us some freedom and put the trust back in our hands, in our skill and timing. Don't tie our hands because we can't compete because you have stripped our tools to the bone and we can't do anything but look on helplessly.

 

Also clearly some tanks used despair as shown through the posts and it shows how much to the wall some tanks have been pushed that we had to use something from spell tricks to try and help us -_- .

 

Also anyone coming to disagree because no doubt some do it to be clever etc or be smart and who are not a tank or was a tank but specced out. YOU ARE NOT A TANK, we live the life of a tank 24/7 we deal with it daily. If it was so wonderful you would be a tank full time and not have changed. Also brushing us off and going you are fine etc :(



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Posted 30 May 2014 - 23:27

No, I am sick of the parlour tricks to create artifical difficulty by cutting tanks so much. Crap is bound to happen because we have been weakened so much. I should have options in my talent tree for threat, haste, dps boosts etc. Maybe I can't use them all but mix and match.

 

Others have haste in their talent trees etc AND I SURE AS HELL WANT SOME THREAT IN MY TALENT TREE. Also sure, inciting cry should get a boost but I should also have a wider reaching new threat talent also in my roster . Despair was very handy for range.  It could not be spammed it was basically you better time it correctly with it as you are only getting 1 shot with it. It sure as hell could not be used repeatedly. It was a tool.

 

What has occured IS ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY. HCS have given dps etc massive haste, massive dps which generates tones of threat. o and mobs now stun tanks, they reset aggro. All cheap tricks. IT SHOULD COME DOWN TO MY TIMING AND SKILL. My faith should be in my own hands. Not hcs tying me down to create artificial difficulty. 

 

Maybe during battles have timing tells of mobs and I need to react or read signs in battle and if I don't respond then BOOM it was my fault. Not allowing me to compete with over powered dps or having resetting aggro mobs or having me kicked to death on the ground so I can't do anything (although this may have been addressed in one place) is just an illusion of difficulty as you are tying the tank down because I don't have tools to do anything.

 

Tanks just need to be fairly looked at for once. The repair bills etc. the warning signs have been posted numerous times and we have been ignored. HCS please just give us some freedom and put the trust back in our hands, in our skill and timing. Don't tie our hands because we can't compete because you have stripped our tools to the bone and we can't do anything but look on helplessly.

 

Also clearly some tanks used despair as shown through the posts and it shows how much to the wall some tanks have been pushed that we had to use something from spell tricks to try and help us -_- .

 

Also anyone coming to disagree because no doubt some do it to be clever etc or be smart and who are not a tank or was a tank but specced out. YOU ARE NOT A TANK, we live the life of a tank 24/7 we deal with it daily. If it was so wonderful you would be a tank full time and not have changed. Also brushing us off and going you are fine etc :(

This


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Posted 30 May 2014 - 23:51

No, I am sick of the parlour tricks to create artifical difficulty by cutting tanks so much. Crap is bound to happen because we have been weakened so much. I should have options in my talent tree for threat, haste, dps boosts etc. Maybe I can't use them all but mix and match.

 

Others have haste in their talent trees etc AND I SURE AS HELL WANT SOME THREAT IN MY TALENT TREE. Also sure, inciting cry should get a boost but I should also have a wider reaching new threat talent also in my roster . Despair was very handy for range.  It could not be spammed it was basically you better time it correctly with it as you are only getting 1 shot with it. It sure as hell could not be used repeatedly. It was a tool.

 

What has occured IS ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY. HCS have given dps etc massive haste, massive dps which generates tones of threat. o and mobs now stun tanks, they reset aggro. All cheap tricks. IT SHOULD COME DOWN TO MY TIMING AND SKILL. My faith should be in my own hands. Not hcs tying me down to create artificial difficulty. 

 

Maybe during battles have timing tells of mobs and I need to react or read signs in battle and if I don't respond then BOOM it was my fault. Not allowing me to compete with over powered dps or having resetting aggro mobs or having me kicked to death on the ground so I can't do anything (although this may have been addressed in one place) is just an illusion of difficulty as you are tying the tank down because I don't have tools to do anything.

 

Tanks just need to be fairly looked at for once. The repair bills etc. the warning signs have been posted numerous times and we have been ignored. HCS please just give us some freedom and put the trust back in our hands, in our skill and timing. Don't tie our hands because we can't compete because you have stripped our tools to the bone and we can't do anything but look on helplessly.

 

Also clearly some tanks used despair as shown through the posts and it shows how much to the wall some tanks have been pushed that we had to use something from spell tricks to try and help us -_- .

 

Also anyone coming to disagree because no doubt some do it to be clever etc or be smart and who are not a tank or was a tank but specced out. YOU ARE NOT A TANK, we live the life of a tank 24/7 we deal with it daily. If it was so wonderful you would be a tank full time and not have changed. Also brushing us off and going you are fine etc :(

haha this should be flooding the forums and while it stressed (as it should) tanks it can be aplied to MANY aspects of the game :)

 

i wounder what HCS would do if EVERYONE simply stopped posting anything other than this. everyone come and repost this once per day untill things are fixed... haha perhaps then they'ld go back to that suggestion thread and reconcider the oh so many posts.


Edited by awollsd, 30 May 2014 - 23:52.

no longer playing so feel free to ignore more (if i even post) just do still follow forums so MAY comment from time to time. 


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Posted 31 May 2014 - 01:48

No, I am sick of the parlour tricks to create artifical difficulty by cutting tanks so much. Crap is bound to happen because we have been weakened so much. I should have options in my talent tree for threat, haste, dps boosts etc. Maybe I can't use them all but mix and match.

 

Others have haste in their talent trees etc AND I SURE AS HELL WANT SOME THREAT IN MY TALENT TREE. Also sure, inciting cry should get a boost but I should also have a wider reaching new threat talent also in my roster . Despair was very handy for range.  It could not be spammed it was basically you better time it correctly with it as you are only getting 1 shot with it. It sure as hell could not be used repeatedly. It was a tool.

 

What has occured IS ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY. HCS have given dps etc massive haste, massive dps which generates tones of threat. o and mobs now stun tanks, they reset aggro. All cheap tricks. IT SHOULD COME DOWN TO MY TIMING AND SKILL. My faith should be in my own hands. Not hcs tying me down to create artificial difficulty. 

 

Maybe during battles have timing tells of mobs and I need to react or read signs in battle and if I don't respond then BOOM it was my fault. Not allowing me to compete with over powered dps or having resetting aggro mobs or having me kicked to death on the ground so I can't do anything (although this may have been addressed in one place) is just an illusion of difficulty as you are tying the tank down because I don't have tools to do anything.

 

Tanks just need to be fairly looked at for once. The repair bills etc. the warning signs have been posted numerous times and we have been ignored. HCS please just give us some freedom and put the trust back in our hands, in our skill and timing. Don't tie our hands because we can't compete because you have stripped our tools to the bone and we can't do anything but look on helplessly.

 

Also clearly some tanks used despair as shown through the posts and it shows how much to the wall some tanks have been pushed that we had to use something from spell tricks to try and help us -_- .

 

Also anyone coming to disagree because no doubt some do it to be clever etc or be smart and who are not a tank or was a tank but specced out. YOU ARE NOT A TANK, we live the life of a tank 24/7 we deal with it daily. If it was so wonderful you would be a tank full time and not have changed. Also brushing us off and going you are fine etc :(



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Posted 31 May 2014 - 02:04

No, I am sick of the parlour tricks to create artifical difficulty by cutting tanks so much. Crap is bound to happen because we have been weakened so much. I should have options in my talent tree for threat, haste, dps boosts etc. Maybe I can't use them all but mix and match.

 

Others have haste in their talent trees etc AND I SURE AS HELL WANT SOME THREAT IN MY TALENT TREE. Also sure, inciting cry should get a boost but I should also have a wider reaching new threat talent also in my roster . Despair was very handy for range.  It could not be spammed it was basically you better time it correctly with it as you are only getting 1 shot with it. It sure as hell could not be used repeatedly. It was a tool.

 

What has occured IS ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY. HCS have given dps etc massive haste, massive dps which generates tones of threat. o and mobs now stun tanks, they reset aggro. All cheap tricks. IT SHOULD COME DOWN TO MY TIMING AND SKILL. My faith should be in my own hands. Not hcs tying me down to create artificial difficulty. 

 

Maybe during battles have timing tells of mobs and I need to react or read signs in battle and if I don't respond then BOOM it was my fault. Not allowing me to compete with over powered dps or having resetting aggro mobs or having me kicked to death on the ground so I can't do anything (although this may have been addressed in one place) is just an illusion of difficulty as you are tying the tank down because I don't have tools to do anything.

 

Tanks just need to be fairly looked at for once. The repair bills etc. the warning signs have been posted numerous times and we have been ignored. HCS please just give us some freedom and put the trust back in our hands, in our skill and timing. Don't tie our hands because we can't compete because you have stripped our tools to the bone and we can't do anything but look on helplessly.

 

Also clearly some tanks used despair as shown through the posts and it shows how much to the wall some tanks have been pushed that we had to use something from spell tricks to try and help us -_- .

 

Also anyone coming to disagree because no doubt some do it to be clever etc or be smart and who are not a tank or was a tank but specced out. YOU ARE NOT A TANK, we live the life of a tank 24/7 we deal with it daily. If it was so wonderful you would be a tank full time and not have changed. Also brushing us off and going you are fine etc :(

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 02:16

No, I am sick of the parlour tricks to create artifical difficulty by cutting tanks so much. Crap is bound to happen because we have been weakened so much. I should have options in my talent tree for threat, haste, dps boosts etc. Maybe I can't use them all but mix and match.

 

Others have haste in their talent trees etc AND I SURE AS HELL WANT SOME THREAT IN MY TALENT TREE. Also sure, inciting cry should get a boost but I should also have a wider reaching new threat talent also in my roster . Despair was very handy for range.  It could not be spammed it was basically you better time it correctly with it as you are only getting 1 shot with it. It sure as hell could not be used repeatedly. It was a tool.

 

What has occured IS ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY. HCS have given dps etc massive haste, massive dps which generates tones of threat. o and mobs now stun tanks, they reset aggro. All cheap tricks. IT SHOULD COME DOWN TO MY TIMING AND SKILL. My faith should be in my own hands. Not hcs tying me down to create artificial difficulty. 

 

Maybe during battles have timing tells of mobs and I need to react or read signs in battle and if I don't respond then BOOM it was my fault. Not allowing me to compete with over powered dps or having resetting aggro mobs or having me kicked to death on the ground so I can't do anything (although this may have been addressed in one place) is just an illusion of difficulty as you are tying the tank down because I don't have tools to do anything.

 

Tanks just need to be fairly looked at for once. The repair bills etc. the warning signs have been posted numerous times and we have been ignored. HCS please just give us some freedom and put the trust back in our hands, in our skill and timing. Don't tie our hands because we can't compete because you have stripped our tools to the bone and we can't do anything but look on helplessly.

 

Also clearly some tanks used despair as shown through the posts and it shows how much to the wall some tanks have been pushed that we had to use something from spell tricks to try and help us -_- .

 

Also anyone coming to disagree because no doubt some do it to be clever etc or be smart and who are not a tank or was a tank but specced out. YOU ARE NOT A TANK, we live the life of a tank 24/7 we deal with it daily. If it was so wonderful you would be a tank full time and not have changed. Also brushing us off and going you are fine etc :(

I concur. 



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Posted 31 May 2014 - 03:00

No, I am sick of the parlour tricks to create artifical difficulty by cutting tanks so much. Crap is bound to happen because we have been weakened so much. I should have options in my talent tree for threat, haste, dps boosts etc. Maybe I can't use them all but mix and match.

 

Others have haste in their talent trees etc AND I SURE AS HELL WANT SOME THREAT IN MY TALENT TREE. Also sure, inciting cry should get a boost but I should also have a wider reaching new threat talent also in my roster . Despair was very handy for range.  It could not be spammed it was basically you better time it correctly with it as you are only getting 1 shot with it. It sure as hell could not be used repeatedly. It was a tool.

 

What has occured IS ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY. HCS have given dps etc massive haste, massive dps which generates tones of threat. o and mobs now stun tanks, they reset aggro. All cheap tricks. IT SHOULD COME DOWN TO MY TIMING AND SKILL. My faith should be in my own hands. Not hcs tying me down to create artificial difficulty. 

 

Maybe during battles have timing tells of mobs and I need to react or read signs in battle and if I don't respond then BOOM it was my fault. Not allowing me to compete with over powered dps or having resetting aggro mobs or having me kicked to death on the ground so I can't do anything (although this may have been addressed in one place) is just an illusion of difficulty as you are tying the tank down because I don't have tools to do anything.

 

Tanks just need to be fairly looked at for once. The repair bills etc. the warning signs have been posted numerous times and we have been ignored. HCS please just give us some freedom and put the trust back in our hands, in our skill and timing. Don't tie our hands because we can't compete because you have stripped our tools to the bone and we can't do anything but look on helplessly.

 

Also clearly some tanks used despair as shown through the posts and it shows how much to the wall some tanks have been pushed that we had to use something from spell tricks to try and help us -_- .

 

Also anyone coming to disagree because no doubt some do it to be clever etc or be smart and who are not a tank or was a tank but specced out. YOU ARE NOT A TANK, we live the life of a tank 24/7 we deal with it daily. If it was so wonderful you would be a tank full time and not have changed. Also brushing us off and going you are fine etc :(

 

Already there are too few tanks, the few that are geared and still play will only tank for run occasionally, and they still seek to make tank harder and less playable.  



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Posted 31 May 2014 - 03:16

After this update i have a question

 

WHO IS THE BRAVE SOUL THAT WILL TANK TOMORROW WORLD BOSSES

 

 

Cause i am kinda curious...

 

I would, but unfortunately I work Saturdays now, so when everyone's gathering for World Bosses I'm not available!



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Posted 31 May 2014 - 03:46

I can tank if noone else want to. 



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Posted 31 May 2014 - 04:59

Jeff might tank not sure yet though if we on in time can ask him



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Posted 31 May 2014 - 06:12

Will be tanking on my alt from next week. Will be doing WBs and runs through BT/RG as I will need all the practice I can get. Havent done it since beta...


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Posted 31 May 2014 - 12:25

Hi, might we suggest adding threat talent in templar tree or Increasing the threat generated by impale/ or that defence buff[forgot it names cuz i havent used it for so long].?


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Posted 31 May 2014 - 15:33

It was a nice run well done all


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Posted 31 May 2014 - 22:20

Will be tanking on my alt from next week. Will be doing WBs and runs through BT/RG as I will need all the practice I can get. Havent done it since beta...

count me in... i just can't get online for just after the reset for WB's, always up for a dungeon run ot two


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