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#61 redsmokeboy

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:06

read post see how= out dps from healer at same time less effective dps still geting hit bye mobs where most issue are.

Time take's cast skill dmg mob's near death unless have high healing skill's thought might have dps butlack mean to survie to use long channel skill's

 

Many of mage skill bost basic skill's dps - crit % most of mage skill's bost Crit % considering Crit not very usefulll. in part some of the issue.

 

Idea, change some skill effect from crit % to att bost - dmg - seeing as most skill bost effect most crit based.


Edited by redsmokeboy, 24 July 2014 - 07:09.

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#62 Eloom

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:07

i highlighted the key point in your reply :)  underdog = under powered  

I never argued other wise I have been stating what i know about the mage i play.


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#63 awollsd

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:09

I never argued other wise I have been stating what i know about the mage i play.

lol well it sure seemed like it... so what was all this time/discussion for? was you saying all these things because you wanted to convince us to stop saying mage needs a boost because you want it to stay an underdog for you to play? lol...


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#64 Eloom

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:10

they get argo from mobs do to their healing not dps

 

Edit: I guess. idk i don't play a healer but i think its base on spell power not dps.


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#65 Eloom

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:11

lol idk server is down post was about mages i play a mage. kinda just fell in to it :)


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#66 awollsd

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:15

lmao.. ok so NOW that we are all in agreement mages are underpowered 

 

 

now on to something else you said....

 

you really took the threat reduction and need to get the threat reduction obby to keep from pulling? at what level? still at 45? and what tank/healers??


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#67 awollsd

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:21

actualy i'm going to bed it's 2:20am lol 

 

nice chat though kept me more intertained than being in game past couple days :)

 

g'night people hopefuly no more of this down time after tomarrow :) YAY!!! :)


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#68 hussey

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:21

gnight awol :) And yeah , the chat was good :D


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#69 stefliew

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:25

The last time someone posted about mages being weaker than rangers, the heroic crossbow got nerfed.

 

I hope other classes don't get nerfed, I'd rather get a buff to mages.



#70 hussey

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:26

nerfed ? was a 1 % decrease , cant call it nerf :P 

 

Yeah should be only a buff to mage :P


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#71 Eloom

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:27

GN~ 


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#72 hussey

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:27

I wonder why the cds for warrior's meteor and maelstorm is incredibly low than other class's main aoe :P


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#73 Alteration

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:30


Edited by Alteration, 24 July 2014 - 07:59.


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:31

War no way op out of malestorm - un like other class cancel att - at same time unable us any other skill or potion till done spinning - Low CD in part where war are bit over power comapred to other class - War do ahve low hast vs other class hast spec skill cost 4 point's for 8% 10% 2 point's on crit

18% low hast comapred other class other then Templar who has 0 hast boster.

 

add higher healing to list.

healing mean cast most long channel skill with out fear of death or move middle of channel

Over all, even with skill effect bost lack surviablite long channel skill's make mage less less usefull.


Edited by redsmokeboy, 24 July 2014 - 07:36.

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#75 Alteration

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:33

nerfed ? was a 1 % decrease , cant call it nerf :P

 

Yeah should be only a buff to mage :P

Actually, 

essence was 424 dps

xbow was 425 dps

 

They changed it to

xbow is now 407 dps

 

More like a 5% nerf



#76 hussey

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:35

With 2 right feet the drawback of maelstorm is broken and blood lust after meteorite and maelstorm makes them spam it again and again .

 

I know many high dps war sins who keep it with mael , metorite, auto and bleeds if neccesary . 

 

For a warrior tree - Not enuff variation, most of the warrior's builds coincide .


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#77 hussey

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:38

Actually, 

essence was 424 dps

xbow was 425 dps

 

They changed it to

xbow is now 407 dps

 

More like a 5% nerf

yeah :) For a dropped heroic CB 425 was slightly high , even crafted bow gave only 425 .


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#78 Alteration

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:40

yeah :) For a dropped heroic CB 425 was slightly high , even crafted bow gave only 425 .

Like bow actually matter.  I see rangers with 460 dps fabled bow with fabled set, and they still favor drum fed crossbow.  



#79 redsmokeboy

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:42

Looking the DPS vs dmg

Xbow 167-187 vs bow 400-428 or so

DPS not sure how = out comapred to dmg over all see even same DPS - Dmg Dub DPS less then bow higher dmg or about =

?Major factor us speed 1.26 vs 2.5 - Bosted tobow to be 1.66 same as Ess - most 1-h weapon's might make it worth using some what.

 

speed alone make xbow worth use over bow to low speed effect of bow - less dps considering xbow speed. Dub dmg at same time dealing less dmg in same time frame.

 

Topic mean's

Mage's: underdog - Less usefull at lvl 50 - compared skill's and over all function of mage compared to what we willsee at lvl 50 content furthering gap of mage to other class. factor of dps new weapon armor - Mage further down road at lvl 50 nearly obsolited mean's for both PvP - PvE.


Edited by redsmokeboy, 24 July 2014 - 07:45.

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#80 hussey

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:47

accepted because there is not much advantage for using a bow , the dmg output should be changed for both bow and xbow . 

 

the animations from bow should be slightly reduced and dps from xbows should be slightly reduced ( community would be against this !!! ) such that overtime both do same dmg rather than xbows being the obvious choice . 

 

As i see it, xbow should be solo type weopen for quesitng and aoe grinding with capability to kite . It has double the attack speed and half the animation time and still ONLY MARGINALLY less dps than bow (12.5 % ). 

 

Bows should be weopens that a ranger uses in grps , We can also add a talent in ranger that gives 5 /10 % more movement speed when u have a xbow and 25 % less mana consumed while using bow .


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