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#81 yodamus

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 14:55

Working on a few things. Keep this thread going with ideas. They will be used.

are you still working on this ? been almost 2 months now for this thread...april 2012 was the last new arena prizes..for those that insist arena has received new prizes recently...the new update this june for tokens did not add any new prizes....the arena's i join now take days to fill, not hours..prizes needed soon


Edited by yodamus, 02 October 2014 - 15:01.


#82 BigGrim

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 16:43

Arena has been pushed back a little. Trying to get the fershuggerin' Storybook forest updated up to EoC, Halloween is rapidly approaching, then Christmas. I wanna update all the seasonal content, while getting more EoC gone too. This on top of really wanting to get a few Code updates from Zorg as well as PvP, GvG and Arena rewards updated. Gotta upgrade the Dragon LEs in time for Christmas too. Busy, busy.

 

Worry not though. I've not forgotten about this.



#83 yodamus

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 16:50

Arena has been pushed back a little. Trying to get the fershuggerin' Storybook forest updated up to EoC, Halloween is rapidly approaching, then Christmas. I wanna update all the seasonal content, while getting more EoC gone too. This on top of really wanting to get a few Code updates from Zorg as well as PvP, GvG and Arena rewards updated. Gotta upgrade the Dragon LEs in time for Christmas too. Busy, busy.

 

Worry not though. I've not forgotten about this.

ok..thanks for reply bg..please get zorg some help...so much to do for 1 person..good luck



#84 jagger4man

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 18:55

For big armor mobs some arena potions with armor reduction:

 

- Spectral Knight 600lvl

- Shatter Armor 600lvl

- Mesmerize 600lvl


List of all sets and mobs in game with stats 
- All sets in game 
- Set stats with different forging lvls
- Set combo builder
- All mobs
*Tip: Using search options (by name or by lvl range) will speed up application

#85 avvakum

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 05:52

Arena Token Shop:

 

Buccaneer Sword (Epic) lvl 200 - 2,000 Arena Tokens

Hidden Blade Pirate Medallion (Epic) lvl 400 - 3,000 Arena Tokens

Bandana / Pirate hat (Epic) lvl 600 - 4,000 Arena Tokens

Pirate boots (Epic) lvl 800 - 5,000 Arena Tokens

Rune of the Pirate (Epic) lvl 1000 - 6,000 Arena Tokens

Pirate's Gloves (Epic) lvl 1200 - 7,000 Arena Tokens

Seadog Pirate Armor (Epic) lvl 1400 - 8,000 Arena Tokens

Dread Pirate ring (Epic) lvl 1600 - 9,000 Arena Tokens

Pistol/shield ? (Epic) lvl 1800 - 10,000 Arena Tokens



#86 justinian9

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 14:40

Arena Token Shop:

 

Buccaneer Sword (Epic) lvl 200 - 2,000 Arena Tokens

Hidden Blade Pirate Medallion (Epic) lvl 400 - 3,000 Arena Tokens

Bandana / Pirate hat (Epic) lvl 600 - 4,000 Arena Tokens

Pirate boots (Epic) lvl 800 - 5,000 Arena Tokens

Rune of the Pirate (Epic) lvl 1000 - 6,000 Arena Tokens

Pirate's Gloves (Epic) lvl 1200 - 7,000 Arena Tokens

Seadog Pirate Armor (Epic) lvl 1400 - 8,000 Arena Tokens

Dread Pirate ring (Epic) lvl 1600 - 9,000 Arena Tokens

Pistol/shield ? (Epic) lvl 1800 - 10,000 Arena Tokens

epic's from token shop?  I have 3300 tokens from playing the arena for the first couple of months after update.. spent some on BM and LD arena rewards so at most I won 4000 tokens.... you really think anyone that is new to arena is going to keep playing to get that high of tokens.  Don't forget the player has to get (buy) good arena gear also... I dont think they will do it, but I could be wrong



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Posted 04 October 2014 - 17:32

BigGrim:  I know I am off topic, but as HCS is looking to upgrade other rewards please think about loyalty rewards also!    Thanks


Edited by justinian9, 04 October 2014 - 17:34.


#88 avvakum

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 17:34

epic's from token shop?  I have 3300 tokens from playing the arena for the first couple of months after update.. spent some on BM and LD arena rewards so at most I won 4000 tokens.... you really think anyone that is new to arena is going to keep playing to get that high of tokens.  Don't forget the player has to get (buy) good arena gear also... I dont think they will do it, but I could be wrong

 

There should be some long-term goal in the PvP Arena. What do you think the price for an Epic should be? 

 

 



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Posted 04 October 2014 - 18:12

There should be some long-term goal in the PvP Arena. What do you think the price for an Epic should be? 

I dont know.... it should be high, but a player should not have to play the arena for a year to get one.  They can get one now from TKP in less time... and not spend gold to get it.  Remember not everyone donates and their gold is what they use to upgrade



#90 BigGrim

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 08:57

Arena Token Shop:

 

Buccaneer Sword (Epic) lvl 200 - 2,000 Arena Tokens

Hidden Blade Pirate Medallion (Epic) lvl 400 - 3,000 Arena Tokens

Bandana / Pirate hat (Epic) lvl 600 - 4,000 Arena Tokens

Pirate boots (Epic) lvl 800 - 5,000 Arena Tokens

Rune of the Pirate (Epic) lvl 1000 - 6,000 Arena Tokens

Pirate's Gloves (Epic) lvl 1200 - 7,000 Arena Tokens

Seadog Pirate Armor (Epic) lvl 1400 - 8,000 Arena Tokens

Dread Pirate ring (Epic) lvl 1600 - 9,000 Arena Tokens

Pistol/shield ? (Epic) lvl 1800 - 10,000 Arena Tokens

 

Rough idea of stat placement you have iin mind?

 

And you realise, if we did pirate epic, we'd have to do Ninjas too, so they can kick the Pirates asses! ;p



#91 Davros81

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 09:19

Rough idea of stat placement you have iin mind?

 

And you realise, if we did pirate epic, we'd have to do Ninjas too, so they can kick the Pirates asses! ;p

Could we combine them to make Ultimate Pinja items? :P



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Posted 06 October 2014 - 09:33

Arena Token Shop:

 

Buccaneer Sword (Epic) lvl 200 - 2,000 Arena Tokens

Hidden Blade Pirate Medallion (Epic) lvl 400 - 3,000 Arena Tokens

Bandana / Pirate hat (Epic) lvl 600 - 4,000 Arena Tokens

Pirate boots (Epic) lvl 800 - 5,000 Arena Tokens

Rune of the Pirate (Epic) lvl 1000 - 6,000 Arena Tokens

Pirate's Gloves (Epic) lvl 1200 - 7,000 Arena Tokens

Seadog Pirate Armor (Epic) lvl 1400 - 8,000 Arena Tokens

Dread Pirate ring (Epic) lvl 1600 - 9,000 Arena Tokens

Pistol/shield ? (Epic) lvl 1800 - 10,000 Arena Tokens

 

 

Rough idea of stat placement you have iin mind?

 

And you realise, if we did pirate epic, we'd have to do Ninjas too, so they can kick the Pirates asses! ;p

IF you're going to consider this there is points to consider ..

 

1. Are these items all going to have the same stam / xp gain or will they increment as they get higher in level ?

 

2. If they will remain constant stam/xp gain, but with boosted other stats according to level, then they should all be the same price ?

 

3. Will they (ideally) be bound ? - BUT, to prevent the howls of protestation, upgradable with further arena tokens so that they can keep pace with the players (possible) level progression ?

 

4. Items for each level would need consideration so as to be at least as good, if not better, than existing ones

 

Of the 4, I'd prefer to see option 3 - but that's also the most difficult to implement.


Edited by Pardoux, 06 October 2014 - 09:34.

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 10:33

Rough idea of stat placement you have iin mind?

 

And you realise, if we did pirate epic, we'd have to do Ninjas too, so they can kick the Pirates asses! ;p

ninjas > pirates X 1,000,000


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#94 shindrak

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 12:20

Arena Token Shop:

 

Buccaneer Sword (Epic) lvl 200 - 2,000 Arena Tokens

Hidden Blade Pirate Medallion (Epic) lvl 400 - 3,000 Arena Tokens

Bandana / Pirate hat (Epic) lvl 600 - 4,000 Arena Tokens

Pirate boots (Epic) lvl 800 - 5,000 Arena Tokens

Rune of the Pirate (Epic) lvl 1000 - 6,000 Arena Tokens

Pirate's Gloves (Epic) lvl 1200 - 7,000 Arena Tokens

Seadog Pirate Armor (Epic) lvl 1400 - 8,000 Arena Tokens

Dread Pirate ring (Epic) lvl 1600 - 9,000 Arena Tokens

Pistol/shield ? (Epic) lvl 1800 - 10,000 Arena Tokens

Good prices... collecting that much of tokens will take long time when we see more players join arena to earn these epics

But stats have to be useful for arena so they should be based on stats more than other epics with stamina gain


Edited by shindrak, 06 October 2014 - 12:20.


#95 BigGrim

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 13:10

But stats have to be useful for arena so they should be based on stats more than other epics with stamina gain

 

Provide suggestions please?



#96 avvakum

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 16:03


Rough idea of stat placement you have iin mind?

 

And you realise, if we did pirate epic, we'd have to do Ninjas too, so they can kick the Pirates asses! ;p

 

But stats have to be useful for arena so they should be based on stats more than other epics with stamina gain

 

It's hard to say what is useful for arena - different conditions need different setups/strategies. For example, in some lvl ranges (and under certain conditions - no combat moves) more balanced in all stats setups haven't lost a single tournament, but it won't work for some other conditions & lvl ranges. 

 

If these are going to be Piratish PvP items, then they should probably be rich in Attack stat (Ninjas' in defense :P ), and with the enhancements: Master Thief 100%, Thievery 100%, Duelist 100%, First Strike 100%, Disarm 100%, Dodge 100%, Protect Gold 100%, Breaker 100%, Piercing Strike 100%. Stamina/XP gain or/and probably PvPXP gain depending on your plans.  

 

Ninjas' Epics would be great PvP Ladder rewards ;)



#97 avvakum

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 18:58

Good prices... collecting that much of tokens will take long time when we see more players join arena to earn these epics

I'm trying to figure out a reasonable price for an Epic in the Arena. I've got 220 Arena tokens from the last 8 arenas I joined (3-4 days). Do you think it's ok to get an Epic from ~80 arenas?   



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Posted 10 October 2014 - 19:09

I'm trying to figure out a reasonable price for an Epic in the Arena. I've got 220 Arena tokens from the last 8 arenas I joined (3-4 days). Do you think it's ok to get an Epic from ~80 arenas?   

The issue is that you guys earn tokens much faster then the rest of us.  You cannot base the cost off the best arena players nor the worst.  But we dont have access to that  game data


Edited by justinian9, 10 October 2014 - 19:10.


#99 avvakum

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 19:17

The issue is that you guys earn tokens much faster then the rest of us.  You cannot base the cost off the best arena players nor the worst.  But we dont have access to that  game data

hmmm... we can calculate for a player with 51% winning percentage vs. other players. How many arenas and days are needed to get one Epic item? 



#100 Leos3000

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 20:39

Quick math so check if you want.

If average person wins 51% of the time and the average prize is 40 tokens. Also mostly based on 8 man tourney.

But you would get 15.4 tokens per tourney entered.


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