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#1 Belaric

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 09:50

This is an idea to be used in conjunction with Doom's Blood idea/whatever HCS decide to implement.

 

I think, for the new PvPXP system to work and be engaging, it has to reward players who play well.

 

I do not think a new token system and new fixed prizes is the entire answer.

 

They can be part of the reward system, but not all of it.

 

Ranks and ladders and being #1 are huge draws. I think the PvP XP system should use that to make PvP XP accumulation a game within the game, with specialised tactics specific to that pursuit.

 

GAINING PvPXP more efficiently that the other guy should be part of the draw. Everyone wants to be #1!!

 

The ability to gain extra PvPXP should be skill based.

 

I propose a tree of PvPXP skills, based either upon PvpXP level, or to be bought by players using PvPXP points. (Sacrifice PvP XP to use these skills when on the BB)

 

I think these skills, which are basically buffs, but only applicable to PvP, should only be activated by players in/on the bounty board.

 

The existence of these skills would be an incentive to get on, and perform well, on the bounty board.

 

For instance:

 

Iron Stance : after X successful defences on the BB you gain a bonus % to PvP XP per subsequent successful defence on the BB. (Reward for dancing hard)

 

Diamond Eye : Gain % bonus to PvP XP earned when defeating enemy with Iron Stance active on BB. (Reward for beating a solid opponent)

 

Power Shift : Use X amount of available PvP XP (Or have this as high level PvP  ability) to gain a % boost one stat of your choice for Y minutes when on the BB. Increase % boost or Y duration by sacrificing larger amounts of PvP XP/ having higher level pvP XP. BB specific.

 

Crystal Eye : On BB you can ignore cloak buff and see your opponent's real stats.

 

Power Master : At high level of PvP XP a player can reallocate a % of their level up points permanently.

 

And so on. Create PVP specific skills that make the PvPXP game more complex and interesting for PvP players. And which act as goals for Pvp players to achieve and then use/unlock.

 

 

 

I think those kinds of abilities (those are just for instances) tied to PvP progress would act as an incentive to try the PvP game, and make it more based on skill than luck, which I believe has been a complaint made by PvP players about some newer buffs. At high levels the PvP skills could have a global benefit, which would be an incentive to all other players to join in to gain such in game advantages.

 

 

 

Worth thinking about?

 

 

I have not discussed problems with collusion and rating.PvPXP trading this time out because

 

a) we should focus on the positive

 

2) HCS must know they need to deal with that


Edited by Belaric, 29 September 2014 - 10:34.

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#2 yghorbeviahn

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 10:01

Don't know about the buffs for the BB only, a new Skill Tree for PvPXP will be nice to have for sure, but maybe applyable in any kind of PvP attack/defense.

I also would like to see 2 Top 250 pages, one showing the actual Top 250 based on their PvP lvls, and another showing the PvPers with most PvPXPaccumulated trough the time, with any loss or delevel. To show the ones who played the most.



#3 Belaric

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 10:14

My idea for BB only is to distinguish these skills from general buffs, and to make sure that the heart of PvP is in/on the BB.

 

I think a variation of skills could be created for PvPXP off and on BB, with more potent versions only applicable to the BB. So : use the weak version when doing an off board attack, and have the full powered version available when on the board. As you advance in PvP levels the % bonus you get grows.

 

The main idea is to create a set of PvP XP specific skills and tactics that make the game more interesting for PvP players.

 

I think that the BB is the crucible for such skills and talents to be displayed, so I thought the skills should be used there.

 

 

I like the idea of 2 top 250's you mentioned yghorb.

 

As the game gets more diverse I think more ladders reflecting that are entirely appropriate.


Edited by Belaric, 29 September 2014 - 10:18.

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#4 BadPenny

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 13:04

I like this idea to a point, that being that although some buffs should be restricted to a certain purpose, the distinction between PvP and PvE buffs is sufficient.... However, some pots that are made available via the BB screen, bought with exchanged points (not sure how earned, just brain-storming here) might work.  These pots would only be available to a hunter, so as to make their job less thankless and a little easier.  After all, that hunter is risking their PvP XP to a counter bounty, or to a successful defend, especially if they are meeting me with a HP blanket and my world famous RA :P


Edited by BadPenny, 29 September 2014 - 13:05.

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#5 shindrak

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 15:45

Maybe a skill increase maximum percentage of Master Thief and Thievery


Edited by shindrak, 29 September 2014 - 15:46.


#6 Leos3000

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 19:46

Iron stance is a no from me simply because you should not gain anything from being posted on the board...opens up a lot of ways to abuse the system!

Biggest and easiest is having people lose to you on purpose who either do not care about the xp or are multi accounts making the main character higher.

#7 BadPenny

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 20:03

Iron stance is a no from me simply because you should not gain anything from being posted on the board...opens up a lot of ways to abuse the system!

 

Biggest and easiest is having people lose to you on purpose who either do not care about the xp or are multi accounts making the main character higher.

 

 

I agree to a point... however, I successfully defend a lot... I mean a lot.... and I by no means am going to make a hunter's job easy, and I don't expect them to go easy on me.  The majority of us do have some integrity, and I resent being grouped with those with no scruples


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