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Poll: Change back pls. (17 member(s) have cast votes)

Fair's back to Glimmering

  1. Yes (16 votes [94.12%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 94.12%

  2. No (1 votes [5.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

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Drop rate add FP

  1. Yes (15 votes [88.24%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 88.24%

  2. No (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Why!! (2 votes [11.76%] - View)

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#1 redsmokeboy

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 21:51

For most part changed BT story mode loot table as it was giving bit to much fine and all but newest change's where more so lazyest thing could have done/

 

Glim gem's to fair why ?

Loot drop rate lower fine and all.

Lack of FP drop's make Fair even more so pointles.

 

Why change to some thing worse then it was vs some thing more blanced Keep Glim gem drop 0 - 1 per run, Limited droploot to FP keep 1 item per boss be fine as long as it's item not pitfull gem.

 

so to all reading this what sdo you think about this change.

 


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#2 Simeonus

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 22:06

Replace items with gems and FP and it will be fine. We can grind too much gold(via item vendor) nowdays, it has no usage and even if you add AH we won't buy much there, most items are bind on drop. I wish maybe devs will unbind mounts atleast.


Edited by Simeonus, 10 October 2014 - 22:07.


#3 Mongo

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 22:08

I vote yes and yes Froggy.  :P

 

Dev's have already said they are open to review the change they made today. I think change it back to Glim's but carefully balance it, so it is not a Gold or Gem mine but still rewards a little profit.

 

Some options:

 

  • Remove the 3 chests from the bosses before shadow, but make the shadow chest a double loot drop with RNG deciding if it drops 2 gear items or 1 gear item and 1 Glim gem. (should be hard coded to always drop at least 1 gear item removing the chance of double gem drop).

 

  • Allow the trash mobs to still drop Glim gems but at a much, MUCH lower rate than previously or just change up their loot table... Small chance of a drop, then that drop has a small chance to be a Glim Gem.

 

Like I said in another post, something that makes balancing these things hard is the fact there are fast/slow players/builds. What one player/build get's rich from, another will feel hard done by.

 

It's a tough one! last thing we want is everyone running around with the same builds as that would be silly McWilly.


Edited by Mongo, 10 October 2014 - 22:10.

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#4 Bryn

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Posted 10 October 2014 - 23:45

Running BT in storymode seems too easy.  Running storymode Vault with a lvl 16 is so much harder in comparison.  Are there any new 44-45s out there running with the lvl 40 set? 


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Ullr -   Ranger -   lvl 32

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Jinx -  Mage -      lvl 10

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#5 Crofil

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 00:25

Running BT in storymode seems too easy.  Running storymode Vault with a lvl 16 is so much harder in comparison.  Are there any new 44-45s out there running with the lvl 40 set? 

defrubs was running it in the lvl 30 set


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#6 Wiivja

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 02:21

defrubs was running it in the lvl 30 set

he died alot, i ran in 40 set with no gems and had to go pretty slow



#7 Oops

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 02:28

I must say I got to do story mode maybe 3 times before the change as real life called me away had to do a huge favor for my son which meant I had to drive 8 hours to get him then 8 hours back with him then take him back home again driving 8 hours there and back then when I can finally play again after my 3rd run of bt I had to log due to your quick fix I didn't get a bunch of gems from BT I got maybe 1 gem in them 3 runs but I wasn't using any loot boosters was just trying to check out the new update it seemed a bit easier before your update and I am a fully geared prophet and not a crit one either I have no dps really lol now it seems I might more challenging and I am fully geared I want to lvl one of my alts and run solo on it but with the drops it gives now I don't wanna have to waste a ton of gold on repairs for what some stupid fair gems and 1 item seriously it isn't worth it to me I think it needs to be changed back but lower the gem drop even with loot boosters on to maybe 1 per run or something like that I don't want to get a buunch of dumb fair gems if I wanted them I would get a group for tr thanks



#8 HuMoR

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 04:37

Fix the troll loot system grrrr


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#9 KeS

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 07:00

change it back the way it was; those who need gear and those who wanted to grind (or have something to do) got screwed over with this nerf.


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#10 Unlucker

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 08:36

They went from extreme to extreme. Seriously... fair gems and no items ? I was finally enjoying the game as a lvl 45, finally something to do solo! But they had to nerf it.

I agree getting 100g + per run was silly, but you could just lower item drop, or item value.

Now I'm forced to go to TA, where I have to do most boring quests ever to get valor points. *zzzZZZzzz*. And you wonder why people leave and stop they subscription once they reach lvl 45...



#11 rowbet

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 13:51

Running BT in storymode seems too easy.  Running storymode Vault with a lvl 16 is so much harder in comparison.  Are there any new 44-45s out there running with the lvl 40 set? 

 

Not a new 45, but I'm someone who usually can't guarantee not to be called away at short notice, and so rarely manage to run dungeons with a group. So I've just been doing it with a bit of level 40 relic-gear, and the rest being rare/fine drops and quest rewards up to 45 (at least as my prophet).

 

I did die more often getting to the crypt (too impatient) than when doing the crypt, but it still takes about 30 minutes to get through (I expect my warrior will be quicker). So far I died just once at the final boss in 4 runs through.

 

I would not want to see less gold out of this (i.e. post nerd levels). I would happily see a lot fewer fair gems.

 

PS (added as edit) given my time profiles, I see story mode TR as about the only viable route to acquiring the many 1000g items that are now in the game (such as scrolls & level 3 mounts). If this game does become popular on release to steam, I suspect there will be a lot more players for whom acquiring gold in such volumes is far too time consuming without decent returns from things like story-mode BT. There will, of course, be others for whom  gold acquisition is much easier.


Edited by rowbet, 11 October 2014 - 13:56.

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#12 redsmokeboy

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 01:20

Story mode need add back Woodsman piller guy spawn help slow down story mode, change gem back to Glim as Fair slap in face. Limited - set reset time to every 10 - 15 min reset time frame cover over farming those who can speed run it, fully geared take me good 10 min's a run some speed run under 5 min - limited reset time to 15 averge solo player in 30 - 40 gear, covere most of genral issue, Right speed run more or less get 40 - 60g a run basic loot many stuiped fair gem with no FP use Fuse them to better gem's.

 

take in account for time take me other still easly pull in 500g hr 75% less gold then it was still farly big chunck gold per hr as is.

 

in it self 500h hr not to bad conisdering need 3000 gold for 2 skill on averge per class + lvl 3 mount speed + add in any other skill's, might wont or use for alot alll add's up fast main issue was gem change to fair and lack of FP drop make it worth it, lvl 45 based on genral sys - Drop glim ? Why change to fair.

 

Many don't have time grind 6 + hr's of same DGN get gold need for skill's then even so after get that gold there not much need use gold on, Few other mount's can buy some emote's and thing's After all skill need looking at 5k Gold cover 1 toon bit more gold then that.


Edited by redsmokeboy, 12 October 2014 - 01:22.

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