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#1 UrcK

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 16:20

Firstly I would like to say i had enjoyed my time back after a good deal of time away .... until the troll spawned at the lake .. I ran there as fast as i could to arrive with 2 others already hitting it but i notice they aren't killing it with any kind of speed .. the HP was falling off slowly with one tank and a healer that was just auto attacking it .. so within moments I receive the invite for the group and join in .. another person arrives and also receives an invite from the tank .. we continue to fight the troll for a few mins and take him down ... to my disgust .. I find out that the troll has been tagged and the only ones to get the rewards are the 2 that were grouped when it was tagged .. perhaps I shouldnt be but so upset .. but the invite was sent out knowing that I/we wouldnt get anything for our efforts as detailed by the tank expressing it soon as it was over ..

 

 I feel slightly used and upset as i cant tell whether to be ill about the way the troll works or that it allows for players to use other players to help kill it without rewarding them or that sumone i consider a 'friend' would even do such a thing with knowledge of it...

 

call me a whiner call me salty .. whatever .. but this experience was a slap in the face ..

 

It is only my opinion but the way the Troll works needs to be reworked .. anyone else agree or disagree?


Edited by UrcK, 29 December 2014 - 16:20.


#2 sdcrichy

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 16:31

used and abused the saying is. lol yeah i think it's pretty stupid not getting no lot roll if joining the group after it has been tagged, but hey hoe.


Edited by sdcrichy, 29 December 2014 - 16:36.


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 16:32

This actually happened to me, I quickly learned to fix it though.

 

Two ways to go about this;

 

1.) Invite him to a group, before he invites you, then kick him before it's over. (when he joins the group, it resets the tag).

2.) Get him to leave the troll area, also resets the tag.


Edited by Discrete, 29 December 2014 - 16:34.


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 16:32

I agree change it


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 16:33

DOUBLE POST BY ACCIDENT.


Edited by Discrete, 29 December 2014 - 16:33.


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 16:41

This actually happened to me, I quickly learned to fix it though.

 

Two ways to go about this;

 

1.) Invite him to a group, before he invites you, then kick him before it's over. (when he joins the group, it resets the tag).

2.) Get him to leave the troll area, also resets the tag.

1) If it resets the tag when joining you, why kick him after?  Wouldn't this just screw the original tank?

2) Why would the original tank leave, unless they're dying?  Just to hand the troll over to you, and screw himself?

 

What we need is a way to do this so no one loses.

 

I just ignore the troll announcements.  Wasted effort by HCS implementing this, I'm not going to chase it down just to get screwed.


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 16:54

I pay more attention when I see "Free hugs" in global.

 

If you're a DPS then you're wasting your time even running for it, a tank and healer will be there faster than you can read that there's a troll notification usually.

 

There's 1 player who I wish I had their gems just from trolls, but they're dedicated to trolls more than i'll ever be.

 

 

I'm not sure I'd want it so that everyone can loot like the wolf at halloween, if it does get changed it will probs be dead content straight away cos drops will be nerfed badly and no-one will want to do anyways.

 

So might aswel just remove it or at least give random helpers a chance for wings so it's more of a community kill, keep it that tank group gets gems still and then more people might spec tank to get tag which in turn will help dungeons aswel.


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 16:58

They should make it so everyone involved gets something, even if its a rubbish token.



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Posted 29 December 2014 - 17:07

I agree, as it is now it causes hostility between players and thats not good for the game. 



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Posted 29 December 2014 - 17:36

At the very least, if invited into the group that tagged it should consider that you've tagged it as well.


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#11 UrcK

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 18:03

 It sounds to me that this tank isnt just dedicated to the Troll but taking advantage of the tag .. if each person involved had a chance to roll for the loot I believe many more people would go for it and that the drops wouldnt need to be nerfed as they would still be coming into the game at the same rate .. Just not all these high end gems going into one persons pockets ..

 

 I willing to bet that if he got there and it was already tagged he wouldnt jump in but wait for the DPS'r to die then jump in .. sigh.


Edited by UrcK, 29 December 2014 - 18:05.


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Posted 29 December 2014 - 18:18

 

I pay more attention when I see "Free hugs" in global.

 

If you're a DPS then you're wasting your time even running for it, a tank and healer will be there faster than you can read that there's a troll notification usually.

 

There's 1 player who I wish I had their gems just from trolls, but they're dedicated to trolls more than i'll ever be.

 

 

I'm not sure I'd want it so that everyone can loot like the wolf at halloween, if it does get changed it will probs be dead content straight away cos drops will be nerfed badly and no-one will want to do anyways.

 

So might aswel just remove it or at least give random helpers a chance for wings so it's more of a community kill, keep it that tank group gets gems still and then more people might spec tank to get tag which in turn will help dungeons aswel.

 

I agree, as it is now it causes hostility between players and thats not good for the game. 

 

What we need is a way to do this so no one loses.

 

I just ignore the troll announcements.  Wasted effort by HCS implementing this, I'm not going to chase it down just to get screwed.

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#13 Kendiosa

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 20:37

Agree. Troll is pretty much pointless. Especially as the last time I got in a group and attacked the 2 drops went to the same person. RNG of course but it really should result in a drop for all who attack in a similar way to how the plasma Lord works

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Posted 29 December 2014 - 21:09

Agree. Troll is pretty much pointless. Especially as the last time I got in a group and attacked the 2 drops went to the same person. RNG of course but it really should result in a drop for all who attack in a similar way to how the plasma Lord works

Were you in the group when it was tagged and got a chance at the loot ???.. thats all we want is that for everyone .. a chance at the loot .. not just to the tank that tags it ...



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Posted 29 December 2014 - 21:15

imo give everyone in group that has control of the tag at its death 1 drop, they get whatever they get, that group will have to stave off any other rival groups, anyone that participated has a 20% chance of token and maybe 5% chance of wings ... troll only spawns twice a day at best per server from what i hear anyway :-)



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Posted 29 December 2014 - 21:42

Yeah the hype from the troll wore off quickly after the first kill when people noticed that.



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Posted 30 December 2014 - 11:55

i did Troll myself 1 time, i accepted to help tank and healer who was taged him and they informed me that i get no loot so thats fine. I dont care if they change it dont have interrest in Troll



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 21:41

on last troll kill i attended happened to me that i came 1st, tagged it, then got invite to a group of tank & heal which i joined.

they both got roll on the loot but not me :( ...completly stupid logic.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 23:01

On the day when the update with the troll went live i waited over 12 hours ingame for him to spawn and guess what?When he finaly spawned by the time i reached that piece of s*** , he was dead.Мама му тролска деба долна (nice words about him for those of you who were wondering )


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Posted 01 January 2015 - 02:03

This actually happened to me, I quickly learned to fix it though.
 
Two ways to go about this;
 
1.) Invite him to a group, before he invites you, then kick him before it's over. (when he joins the group, it resets the tag).
2.) Get him to leave the troll area, also resets the tag.

Haha. That's just like kicking every group mates in a dungeon before a boss die just so that you can get the loot.
didnt know that we even have to be wary of the leader in group run now.welp.


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