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#1 gothador_evilbastard

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 15:54

I have posted about this in 5th tier skills thread, but that thread seems to be forgotten. Why not take the elves 5th tier skill from us, untill you get skills for everyone? I post this suggestion as a sylvan elf myself who uses this skill everyday I hunt. I know the playing field will never be level, but this is crazy that we are the only class to get skills. Please actually consider this hcs.... and just do it....BECAUSE ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO !! Why should I be able to heal?

#2 Athy

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Posted 25 August 2010 - 20:59

Don't care either way this goes.

I still use my mage when I have to heal. Won't bother using the sylvan healing thing until it's available in cs forests. Too much a pain to find a forest, teleport, heal, then get to the realm. It's much faster and more convenient to just to switch tabs and spam-click healing spells a few times.

#3 Howard The Duck

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 08:54

well i cant say it would bother me either way as i have well over 1.5million hp, but it may interest you to know the ability to heal is not a skill its just the ability to heal thats it and its something the elves have deserved for a long time, yet they havent had. Besides its still broken anyways it doesnt work in the cult squares atm.

either way doesnt matter to me i dont use the ability anyways, thats what ks is for.

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 11:15

The lack of ability to heal for elves was the balance for being unlocateable and having crit hit.

the others should have crit hit and cloak given them to even them up a bit :roll:

#5 Howard The Duck

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 20:38

as i said take away our ability to heal it doesnt matter to me i dont use it

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Posted 26 August 2010 - 23:37

what the evilbastard is arguing for is a level playing field for 5th tier. we all know that elves being able to use hp potions don't really matter as far as gameplay. potions are so weak that they dont do squat and you get more hp from the life nexus than any potion.

either fix 5th tier for all classes, or nix the bugged skills all together. doubt any of that will happen though if you know the history.

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 02:54

i want better possession or blood suck or both. i doubt ill get it . meh.

#8 drillbeast

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 05:30

How about allowing Humans the use of restricted items such as boots?

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 06:19

ask for whatever you want , youre just as likely to get a golden toilet as a simple improvement on an existing skill for 5th tier , for example...so wish away!!

#10 drillbeast

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 06:36

I realize making any suggestions is like hitting yourself in the head with a hammer. Why then do we still do i you ask? CUZ IF FEELS SOOOOOOOOOO GOOD WHEN WE STOP :roll:

#11 AizenVicious

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Posted 27 August 2010 - 13:03

Everyone wants to get rid of our ability to heal, goodbye to critical hit, cloak, and KS. Sounds like we should just be human again.

Seriously though, crit hit doesn't kick in often enough to make a huge difference for me when I hunt. It's probably more useful for lower levels. Cloak? I wish I could turn it off just to show you that you might not want anything to do with us elves in pvp anyways.

Either way, I can't see it being productive targeting other classes' skills that have already been implemented for some time and trying to have them removed. Things instead need to be added to the game.

For the 1000th time, any class can make it to top player, it hasn't been that long that elves have reclaimed top spot, so you don't get any sympathy from me.
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#12 gothador_evilbastard

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 22:05

If only I had known before I started playing that unless vap wants something, it will never happen. If there was a way to now revert from the scum bag class that is elves, I sure would. :evil:

#13 AizenVicious

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 19:32

Your name is evilbastard....this class is fitting for you don't you think?

I don't see how any of the elven skills give an unfair advantage (other than pvp). They don't make leveling any easier or cheaper for that matter. Elves definitely rock in pvp, but you could also argue that mages are overpowered now with the new mage vial (but that's a whole other can of worms better left unopened). Honestly KS could be toned down a bit since KS does have a tendency to kick in too often. I don't think it should be eliminated but I don't think its unreasonable to lower the percentage chance of it kicking in. I do think elves should have the ability to heal. The reason they weren't able to heal initially was to balance the classes long ago. Since then the game has progressed (or at least the players have :lol: ) and elves such as myself have over 2 million hp on an aeon vial. It's difficult to fill my hp bar without relying on a mage or spending tons of potions. I think it's silly that elves didn't have the ability to even heal themselves without relying on another character.

So to sum things up, cloak could go away for all I care, KS could be tamed a bit by lowering the percentage chance of it kicking in, being able to heal should stay since we shouldn't have to have a mage heal us just to play the game (and no I don't have any alts to heal me), critical hit is fine since it doesn't kick in enough to make a huge difference when hunting.

And if anybody is looking at me and pacman and using us as examples of elves being overpowered, it's not that we are overpowered as much as the fact that we play A LOT. We spend tons of usp's and we kill thousands and thousands of creatures...it's as simple as that. Demon, angel, elf, undead, it doesn't matter...you can get here if you spend the time and money.
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#14 OnionGroove

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 21:38

you can get here if you spend the time and money.


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#15 gothador_evilbastard

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 22:18

While you make some valid points Aizen, this thread was more about elves gettting 5th tier ABILITIES, and not really about just top ranked players. Maybe if you were around my level you'd see the advantages I see. I was more thinking if we got something, no matter how unuseful it may be to you, why don't others? HCS just dont give a damn that people leave this game all the time with barely any new players coming in. And its things like this that drives more away everyday. You may not mind playing a game with noone in it, but I rarely can find a single target to pvp. And i dont see how that would change if I was angel, demon, etc... This thread should be closed since vap didnt start it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#16 AizenVicious

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Posted 06 September 2010 - 13:51

The ability to heal shouldn't be a fifth tier skill, we should just have the ability. I was mainly bringing up the point (although off topic) that Kindred Spirit could be toned down a little in order to "level the playing field". When KS kicks in 7 times in a row it makes it extremely hard to kill an elf.

I think we all know that no matter what changes occur (or don't occur), this game is like a dying star, it once shined bright but has been slowly fading out for a long time. Some of us are just too stubborn to quit. :lol:
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Posted 06 September 2010 - 23:00

What's the chance of KS kicking in again?


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